Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-11 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:48:00AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:39:56AM -0500, Indulekha wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:22:45PM +0200, Wilko Fokken wrote: > > > After running 'pppconfig' to install a new dialup connection to a > > > provider, I need to enter t

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 11:39:56AM -0500, Indulekha wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:22:45PM +0200, Wilko Fokken wrote: > > After running 'pppconfig' to install a new dialup connection to a > > provider, I need to enter the directory > > > > /etc/ppp/peers/ > > > > and have to change th

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:55:40PM -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote: > songbird writes: > >  as to specifics why gnome-ppp doesn't work and > >bugs that's the usual "volunteers do what interests > >them."  if you want it fixed, get the code and fix > >it.  if you want someone else to fix it, pay them.

Re: does anyone care about dialup

2012-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
Please don't break threads (reply to your own posts instead of creating new ones). Please *do* include a subject. On 10/05/12 09:51, Paul Zimmerman wrote: > Miles Bader writes: > >> It may also be a problem with your service provider -- I had a >> problem (back when I still used PPP) where the

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Paul Zimmerman
songbird writes: >  as to specifics why gnome-ppp doesn't work and >bugs that's the usual "volunteers do what interests >them."  if you want it fixed, get the code and fix >it.  if you want someone else to fix it, pay them. Yes, that seems to be the core of the issue. The people actually putting

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Go Linux
They have other options with higher usage levels. Look at the site more carefully or send them an email. --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha wrote: > From: Indulekha > Subject: Re: Does anyone care about dialup? > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 5:41

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 10:05:29AM -0700, Go Linux wrote: > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha wrote: > > > > What a hassle! > > I've also had very little luck finding a reasonable provider > > here > > in Tennessee. > > > > > > Check out VTISP.com. They offer a bare connection for Linux users. S

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 10:05:29AM -0700, Go Linux wrote: > --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha wrote: > > > > What a hassle! > > I've also had very little luck finding a reasonable provider > > here > > in Tennessee. > > > > > > Check out VTISP.com. They offer a bare connection for Linux users. S

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Go Linux
--- On Wed, 5/9/12, Indulekha wrote: > > What a hassle! > I've also had very little luck finding a reasonable provider > here > in Tennessee. > > Check out VTISP.com. They offer a bare connection for Linux users. Service was reliable until ATT screwed up locally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 04:22:45PM +0200, Wilko Fokken wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 07:50:33PM -0500, Indulekha wrote: > > > I live in a very remote rural area, so dialup is my only option. > > Someone else suggested wvdial, which works and is good, but I prefer > > to use pppconfig to create

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 07:50:33PM -0500, Indulekha wrote: > I live in a very remote rural area, so dialup is my only option. > Someone else suggested wvdial, which works and is good, but I prefer > to use pppconfig to create the connection, pon/poff to start/end it, > and pppstatus so I can see

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-09 Thread Tom H
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:12 AM, songbird wrote: > Paul Zimmerman wrote: >> >> Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux?... > >  make sure your modem is supported by linux, > install packages ppp and pppconfig, read a few > man pages, adjust a few scripts/config files, > make sure in t

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread songbird
Paul Zimmerman wrote: > Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux?... make sure your modem is supported by linux, install packages ppp and pppconfig, read a few man pages, adjust a few scripts/config files, make sure in the right groups, done. works well for me, and is certainly

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Gary Dale
On 07/05/12 06:16 PM, Paul Zimmerman wrote: Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup modems were still the main means of Internet access for most home users, and it was painfully difficult th

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:09:44AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > What's there to throttle? With 56kbits/s (theoretical max. speed) it's > barely usable with today's sites. I think you are being generous - gmail, google reader etc. are completely unusable at that speed unfortunately :( Last time

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 07 May 2012 15:16:55 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote: (please, no html, thanks) > Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this > way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup > modems were still the main means of Internet access  for most h

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Go Linux
--- On Tue, 5/8/12, Miles Bader wrote: > From: Miles Bader > Subject: Re: Does anyone care about dialup? > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 2:31 AM > It may also be a problem with your > service provider -- I had a problem > (back when I stil

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Miles Bader
It may also be a problem with your service provider -- I had a problem (back when I still used PPP) where the connection was getting dropped mysteriously, and [after much frustration trying to figure out what was happening] it turned out my provider didn't support TCP header compression; turning of

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 07 mai 12, 18:05:30, Go Linux wrote: > > Be aware though that some phone companies (like ATT locally) are > intentionally throttling data connections to move used to higher > paying services. That's why I ultimately had to get off dialup. What's there to throttle? With 56kbits/s (theore

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Paul Zimmerman [120507 22:36]: > Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? ... > Does anyone working on Linux care about dialup? Some people do still > have uses for it, and some even depend on it. Unless you have time to burn, the most pragmatic approach likely is to assign the ta

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Go Linux
--- On Mon, 5/7/12, Indulekha wrote: > From: Indulekha > Subject: Re: Does anyone care about dialup? > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Monday, May 7, 2012, 7:50 PM > I prefer to use pppconfig to create the connection, pon/poff > to start/end it +1 I was on

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 08/05/12 08:16, Paul Zimmerman wrote: > Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? I hadn't noticed it was difficult neither dialup as a protocol or the using your specific modem and dialup. Is this a request for assistance or just a rant? > > Since KDE 4 is such a hog Hu

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Indulekha
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 03:16:55PM -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote: >Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this >way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup >modems were still the main means of Internet access for most home >user

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
Not difficult at all. There is wvdial package and c-kermit packages available for that job. I was using c-kermit and mskermit back as far as 1989 though I only managed my first talking linux installation in 2000. Kermit has a book written about how to use it and my name is in that book for h

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On Tue, May 8, 2012 01:16, Paul Zimmerman wrote: > Why is it so difficult to get dialup to work in Linux? It has been this > way for many years, too. I tried a different distro in 1996 when dialup > modems were still the main means of Internet access  for most home users, > and it was painfully dif

Re: Does anyone care about dialup?

2012-05-07 Thread Dan Hitt
actually, i was using dialup until 2008 i think --- both ppp and perhaps kermit (getting a little foggy there). i certainly did not make any kernel mods to do it. but i do remember that getting it right was a bear (probably i'm foggy about it because it is a painful, repressed memory :) ). dan