Re: [OT] Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-16 Thread Florian Kulzer
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:27:54 + Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:13:51AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100 Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joey Hess wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: I wo

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-16 Thread Magnus Therning
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 08:47:01AM +1100, Star King of the Grape Trees wrote: >Magnus Therning wrote: > >>On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:39:01AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: >> >>> Where is the list of installed packages kept on >>>these systems, if I can store a list I can make a script out of it and

Re: [OT] Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:27:54 + Magnus Therning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:13:51AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100 > >Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Joey Hess wrote: > >> > Florian Kulzer wrote: > >> > > >> >>I

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-15 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
Magnus Therning wrote: On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:39:01AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: Where is the list of installed packages kept on these systems, if I can store a list I can make a script out of it and more quickly return to where I was if a cd reinstall is necessary using that script to

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-15 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1142354731, Thomas Jollans wrote: > If not, this is a good time to make coffee unless your > internet connection is based on *insert super fast > technology that is used by no debian mirror here* My commercial ISP hosts a debian mirror so I get blazing speeds at home: and I work at a UK Univ

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-15 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 04:39:01AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: >First thanks much for the steps for doing this upgrade. So far as I >can tell, it's not possible to rebuild gnome with all the accessibility >bits included without first being on an unstable distro first. Second >the Xwindows interfa

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
Jude DaShiell wrote: [...] Where is the list of installed packages kept on these systems, if I can store a list I can make a script out of it and more quickly return to where I was if a cd reinstall is necessary using that script to download the missing packages? I think

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
First thanks much for the steps for doing this upgrade. So far as I can tell, it's not possible to rebuild gnome with all the accessibility bits included without first being on an unstable distro first. Second the Xwindows interface once I get it talking may enable multimedia access conssole

Re: [OT] Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-15 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006 at 02:13:51AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: >On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100 >Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Joey Hess wrote: >> > Florian Kulzer wrote: >> > >> >>I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron. >> > >> > >> > From WordNet

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100 Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something like that ;) I'm curious about this. I've bee

Re: [OT] Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:59:08 +0100 Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > >>I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron. > > > > > > From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]: > > > > unstable > > ... > > 6: subj

[OT] Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
Joey Hess wrote: Florian Kulzer wrote: I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron. From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]: unstable ... 6: subject to change; variable; "a fluid situation fraught with uncertainty"; "everything was unstable following t

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Joey Hess
Florian Kulzer wrote: > I would go so far as to say that "Debian Unstable" is an oxymoron. From WordNet (r) 2.0 (August 2003) [wn]: unstable ... 6: subject to change; variable; "a fluid situation fraught with uncertainty"; "everything was unstable following the coup" [s

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Magnus Therning
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:45:31PM +0100, Thomas Jollans wrote: >On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:39, Magnus Therning wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:16:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: [..] >> Step two is to edit /etc/apt/sources.list. This is the relevant part of >> mine: >> >> deb http://ftp.uk

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:05:56 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:27:07 +0200 > Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I think many from this list recalls the yaird issue which made an > > unbootable initrd. I got "hit" directly :) Though I l

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:27:07 +0200 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think many from this list recalls the yaird issue which made an unbootable > initrd. I got "hit" directly :) Though I learned to *always* keep a second > kernel installed it still counts as a break. Good point,

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:42:47 -0800 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100 > Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix > > problems and avoid doing unattended update

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > ive been running sid for 4 to 5 years and there have been glitches > (maybe severe ones once a year), but by-in-large if i want to try new ^^^ The term is actually "by and large" and it is actually a nautical term. Though, t

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
Clive Menzies wrote: On (14/03/06 10:42), Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100 Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] I'm curious about this. I've been running pure sid for over a year and have never had anything break . What is people's experience with

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 10:42:47AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100 > Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix > > problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Clive Menzies
On (14/03/06 10:42), Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100 > Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix > > problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something like that ;) > > I'm curious

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:45:31 +0100 Thomas Jollans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > because SID breakes. period. you must know what yu are doing, how to fix > problems and avoid doing unattended updates or something like that ;) I'm curious about this. I've been running pure sid for over a year an

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread steef
Jude DaShiell wrote: What would the steps be to go from sarge stable to sarge unstable using apt-get? For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless I figure out how to get debian's xwindows interface talking. you put two questions. the first is: how to get xwindows working; and 2.

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Thomas Jollans
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 11:39, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:16:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless I restricted ? I see no restrictions here. Just a little less eye candy *lol* > > First off, Sarge is the stable release

Re: distribution upgrade question

2006-03-14 Thread Magnus Therning
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:16:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: >What would the steps be to go from sarge stable to sarge unstable using >apt-get? For now I'm restricted to console mode until or unless I >figure out how to get debian's xwindows interface talking. First off, Sarge is the stable rel