Hi,
>>"Peter" == Peter Paluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Peter> Could one of you kindly explain me about what is deity and
Peter> what is apt?
APT is the new name for deity, since Deity could offend people
(don't ask), and people couldn't spell it anyway. APT is a work in
progress, t
On Tue, Apr 14, 1998 at 01:31:03PM +0100, Tristan Day wrote:
> About a month ago there were many people raving about deity, the replacement
> to dselect.
> Will it be in the Debian 2 release?
No, and it's called apt now. It's at (last look) 0.0.5 and is not
functional yet in and of itself. It a
ixx (your favorite desease) wrote:
>
> it says i do not have some file in err /var/lib/deity/cache/... made my
> apt-get or something..??? so i can not get it to run
>
It means run dpkg-get I believe. Misleading isn't it?
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it says i do not have some file in err /var/lib/deity/cache/... made my
apt-get or something..??? so i can not get it to run
> > I'll grab a copy and have a look. Are there any known, serious bugs?
>
> Well, other than not actually installing packages? :)
>
> The graphical interface is c
On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> Scott K. Ellis wrote:
>
> > The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound
> > it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also
> > very close to completion).
>
> Scott -- are there screenshots somew
Scott K. Ellis wrote:
> The graphical interface is coming along nicely, but we haven't quite bound
> it to the actual package installation routines (although those are also
> very close to completion).
Scott -- are there screenshots somewhere that we can look at?
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On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
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> > On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> >
> > > I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to
> > > remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X).
> >
> > This is
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Britton wrote:
>
> I have been trying to install deity (largely because dselect has been seg
> faulting on me since libc6 upgrade and I havn't been able to fix this. I
> suspect it is related to the below ncurses problem). Here is what
> happens:
>
> # dpkg --install libs
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
>
> > I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to
> > remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X).
>
> This is Debian we are talking about... ;-)
Yes, that is one of t
Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to remain for
> the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X).
It has a text mode as well.
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At 17:13 -0800 1998-03-28, George Bonser wrote:
>Not from what I understand. I was told that it will run in either graphic
>or comman-line modes completely replacing dselect.
That's true, deity has both a slang and a GTK interface, the coolest thing
is that both interfaces are in a single executa
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Bob Nielsen wrote:
> I thought it was an additional method and dselect was going to
> remain for the graphically-impaired (IIRC deity runs under X).
This is Debian we are talking about... ;-)
deity runs both under X11 and text. I have got used to dselect,
but Deity is way w
On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, George Bonser wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Mike Acklin wrote:
>
> > What exactly is Deity? When you say stuph, what exactly is that? but
> > thanks for the early review :-)
> >
>
>
> It is the replacement for dselect.
I thought it was an additional method and dselect was
Sorry, I must be dense today. Stuph, I guess is like the dog in
Louisiana, Phideaux (fido) :-)
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On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wint
Okay, I'll bite: where can one find/download Deity? Also, "how unstable" is
it?
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Mike Acklin wrote:
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> What exactly is Deity? When you say stuph, what exactly is that? but
> thanks for the early review :-)
>
Sorry. As George has said, it's a graphical replacement for dselect
with a boat-load of new features. It should make package management a
dream.
Stuph - is well.. st
What exactly is Deity? When you say stuph, what exactly is that? but
thanks for the early review :-)
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On Sat, 28 Mar 1998, Wintermute
On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Geoffrey Deasey KD4WVF wrote:
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> Hows it comming ?
> anyone car to guess when 2.0 will be ready
There is a snapshot around in project/experimental (incoming usually
though) but we are not targeting a release for 2.0 unless 2.0 is fairly
delay..
Jason
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Hamish Moffatt wrote:
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> On Wed, Aug 06, 1997 at 11:24:00AM -0400, Will Lowe wrote:
> > My major interest in the -Desktop and Diety projects is the provision for
>
> This name is confusing me -- is it really Diety?
> Should be "Deity", no? Very different!
>
Deity \De"i*ty\, n.; pl. Deities. [O
The new dselect should allow you to mark a package for re-install. I just
managed to delete all .so files in my X11R6/lib. It's be nice if I could
just mark all the affected packages for reinstall in dselect, instead of
having to download and reinstall by hand.
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Hi again,
I have something for the dselect etc. wish list: We would like to be able
to put the packages in an unpacked state on a read-only NFS disk and then
automagically create symlinks from the system directories to the NFS
disk on our target systems that form a cluster.
This of course makes s
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> One more idea to throw in the pot:
>
> How about including smbfs in the base kernel and allowing installation
> from a Win95 or NT share? Almost every office is going to have one
> of those around where you can share out a CDROM with a couple of
> mo
'Peter Iannarelli wrote:'
>
>Hello all:
>
>As I'm sure everyone is aware a new project has been initiated
>to replace the currenct dselect package maintainence facility
>with the goals of enhancing its functionality and resolving
>some of the existing package maintenance problems.
Look at http://w
> >
> > I'd think the info-zip package would have been a better choice since you
> > can extract individual elements without uncomressing the whole mess and
> > you wouldn't need two layers of archiving.
> >
> I use the Midnight Commander for extracting single files from a *.deb
> file. I could p
On Thu, Apr 17, 1997 at 02:53:12PM -0400, Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, why did Debian decide to use a .deb package
> format, as opposed to, say, a "debian_control" file inside the .tar
> archive? So far as I can see:
>
> CONS:
> Cannnot use the Debianized package withou
On Thu, Apr 17, 1997 at 10:30:40AM -0500, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> How about including smbfs in the base kernel and allowing installation
> from a Win95 or NT share? Almost every office is going to have one
I started fiddling with the dselect method scripts last week,
in an attempt to implement a
On Apr 15, Dale Scheetz wrote
> Isn't this already available with get_selections and set_selections?
Yeah, but only 'oldtimers' know about that. I'd be nice if it could be
integrated in a more user-friendly way into "dselect 2". Something like:
Select Packages
- Full list (provides collapsible
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
>
> I'd think the info-zip package would have been a better choice since you
> can extract individual elements without uncomressing the whole mess and
> you wouldn't need two layers of archiving.
>
I use the Midni
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (" Raymond A. Ingles") writes:
> CONS:
> Cannnot use the Debianized package without dpkg.
> Difficult to "unDebianize".
>
Actually you can do this without any Debian specific tools. GNU ar
should be included in any major Linux distrib
On 14:30:40 Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>>One more idea to throw in the pot:
>
>How about including smbfs in the base kernel and allowing installation
>from a Win95 or NT share? Almost every office is going to have one
>of those around where you can share out a CDROM with a couple of
>mouse clicks. Y
Lamar Folsom writes:
> Does this mean that each package will have to list the space it requires
> in every directory...
It would be sufficient to provide the complete path and size of each file.
> ...and the packaging software will figure out if each of those
> directories is on a separate partit
Alan Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Another thing that would help would be to HAVE ALL FILES IN
>/var/lib/dpkg/info IN GZIPED FORMAT. My little system now has 893KB in
>that directory, and I have gziped almost all the postinst scripts by hand.
The vast majority of the files in this directory
> .deb is a very simple ar archive. You can use ar to display its
> contents and to extract data.tar.gz which contains the package,
> control.tar.gz contains the pre/post inst/rm scripts.
> (filenames from memory, might be called slightly different)
>
> > Using the universally (well, Unixversall
On Apr 17, Raymond A. Ingles wrote
> Just out of curiosity, why did Debian decide to use a .deb package
> format, as opposed to, say, a "debian_control" file inside the .tar
> archive? So far as I can see:
>
> PROS:
> ".deb" format allows easy ID of packages that can be installed on
> Deb
One more idea to throw in the pot:
How about including smbfs in the base kernel and allowing installation
from a Win95 or NT share? Almost every office is going to have one
of those around where you can share out a CDROM with a couple of
mouse clicks. You could even do from with Windows-for-Work
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Lamar Folsom wrote:
> > Francois Gouget writes:
> > > Unfortunately in some cases it is not so simple to check for space
> > > availability as /var may be on one partition, /usr on another and /lib
> > > yet somewhere else.
> >
> > Should be doable. "df" to get all the parti
> Francois Gouget writes:
> > Unfortunately in some cases it is not so simple to check for space
> > availability as /var may be on one partition, /usr on another and /lib
> > yet somewhere else.
>
> Should be doable. "df" to get all the partitions and their capacities, "df
> /var", "df /usr", et
"François" Gouget writes:
>
> robert havoc pennington wrote:
>
> > When I first installed debian I selected more packages than would fit on
> > the disk, and so I ended up with tons of "broken packages" and had to
> > install again. dselect recovered nicely (something other distributions
Francois Gouget writes:
> Unfortunately in some cases it is not so simple to check for space
> availability as /var may be on one partition, /usr on another and /lib
> yet somewhere else.
Should be doable. "df" to get all the partitions and their capacities, "df
/var", "df /usr", etc to get the f
robert havoc pennington wrote:
> When I first installed debian I selected more packages than would fit on
> the disk, and so I ended up with tons of "broken packages" and had to
> install again. dselect recovered nicely (something other distributions
> don't do) but since each package has a pre
I like the consept of dselect as it is but som improvments are welcome.
The sugestions is sorted in thre cattegorys: 1) Small improvments to
dselects interface. 2) Bigger new featurs to dselect. 3) New / improved
featurs involving possably changes to the pakage managment system.
Lets start with 1)
Dale Scheetz writes:
[snip]
> Isn't this already available with get_selections and set_selections?
What about a fresh, "from scratch" installation? (like a newby would
encounter) 8-)
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On Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 10:14:30AM +0800, A. M. Varon wrote:
>
> If possible, it could look, feel and function like a midnight commander.
> left pane are the .deb files, to the right could be the content, info,
> dependancies to other files etc. which you could toggle.
Hmmm. But more interesting
Regarding the "wish list" for the dselect replacement:
1 A "what if" command: Tell me what you would do if I said "do it".
I found with dselect I'd somehow told it to remove lots of
things I hand't meant to, so recently I've been using dpkg directly
rather than trying to figure out dselect.
> My needs might be better served if there were an easy way to instruct dpkg
> to install the binaries on a different filesystem, like a zip disk. There
> is probably a way to do this easily, but I haven't figured it out. Have to
> do links by hand? THe config files, and so on, should go in the
If possible, it could look, feel and function like a midnight commander.
left pane are the .deb files, to the right could be the content, info,
dependancies to other files etc. which you could toggle.
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|and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse.
This isn't quite about the interface, but about the package system
(may it just depends on the way it is implemented).
What I'd like to see is a way for the user to individuallt decide
whether he/she wants to install c
Peter,
Thank you for request for ideas and desires regarding the next
improvement to the debian package management system.
1. Scripts provided by the package writer should only have access to
files and directories specifically approved by the installer.
2.
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>Adam Shand writes:
>> This is *just* to get newbies installed and working. I'd do something
>> like have 3 options.
...
>> ...and a full install ( the two before plus X windows).
>
>Thus the the true newbie, who wants most of all to dial up her ISP and u
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> Adam Shand writes:
> > This is *just* to get newbies installed and working. I'd do something
> > like have 3 options. A developement box (nothing but baisc utilities and
> > compilers),...
>
> How many newbies are going to want this?
> I suggest:
>
> 1) Basic Unix
Adam Shand writes:
> This is *just* to get newbies installed and working. I'd do something
> like have 3 options. A developement box (nothing but baisc utilities and
> compilers),...
How many newbies are going to want this?
> ...a network box (basic utilities and networking stuff, including
> p
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and
> > organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements
> > and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse.
>
> Here's a simple one: the ability to create a tagfile. We had to ins
> The odds that Mr Iannarelli is starting this thread just to
> concentrate the flammage, flak and junk into one thread which he can
> easilly killfile is astronomical =) This is especially probable given his
> insistence on exact spelling in the subject...
Excuse me, but this is completely uncal
Probably I'm going to say the obvious, but...
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Rob MacWilliams wrote:
> 2. I know there has been much traffic about the interface
[...]
> Now all that is needed is a keystroke sequence to open and close the
> categories. The closest piece of software out now that would be
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:00:00 +0200 Wichert Akkerman
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and
> > organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements
> > and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse.
>
> Here's a simple one: the abilit
> This thread is being issued to provide all individuals and
> organizations an opportunity to voice their requirements
> and concerns. So fire away. Keep it short and terse.
Here's a simple one: the ability to create a tagfile. We had to install
25 Linux machines here a while ago and it is a pain
Hee!!!
The odds that Mr Iannarelli is starting this thread just to
concentrate the flammage, flak and junk into one thread which he can
easilly killfile is astronomical =) This is especially probable given his
insistence on exact spelling in the subject...
Hahahahahah What a lame thread.
>2. I know there has been much traffic about the interface, but I think
the >best I've seen for this type of material is a nested list of packages.
Start >the top with all packages, then go to stable, contrib, non-free...
After that >break them down by group, i.e. admin, base, ... The thread
tha
Hi all,
Since the gentleman requested, and will soon be deluged with mail, I decided to
get my two cents
in early.
1. Please include a download status indicator. i.e. time remaining. I am
using a link that only lasts
three hours, and then shuts down. An indication of how much time is
nee
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:
> On Apr 14, Ryan Shaw wrote
>
> > the poster also mentioned a mailing list to discuss to new program and
> > its development. however, upon browsing www.debian.org i couldn't find
> > any mention of the new list.
> >
> > could someone point me in the
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:
> On Apr 14, Ryan Shaw wrote
>
> > the poster also mentioned a mailing list to discuss to new program and
> > its development. however, upon browsing www.debian.org i couldn't find
> > any mention of the new list.
> >
> > could someone point me in the
On Apr 14, Ryan Shaw wrote
> the poster also mentioned a mailing list to discuss to new program and
> its development. however, upon browsing www.debian.org i couldn't find
> any mention of the new list.
>
> could someone point me in the right direction and/or perhaps validate
> the claims made
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