Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> c) Cannot use vim to compose emails.
> If I am using a mailing list interface, I can use kmail to read my emails,
> and
> vim to write replies. In forums I cannot do that. I am being restricted by
> their st**id editor.
Know what I can never wrap my brain aroun
Am 2006-09-25 17:03:36, schrieb John Kelly:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >> I'll never give up my trusty old mail/news client. It's ten
> >> times faster than using a web forum.
>
> >Forums are searchable where many email lists archives are not.
>
On 09/27/2006 12:40 PM, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> According to http://lists.debian.org/stats/ the subscribe count for d-u is
> around 2900 which is way less compared to the forum subscribers.
Raju,
Many of us read the list as a newsgroup or from a web interface, so
we're not counted at all
"David E. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:22:21 +0300
> Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Maybe you could host a debian-offtopic list. Maybe there is some
> > interest for that :)
>
> hell come on over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We con't care if yuu don't
> ru
On Thursday 21 September 2006 15:17, S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
> today at the time of searching http://debian.org get a link
> http://forums.debian.net
>
> but, there number of registed user is too few "We have *7054* registered
> users"
>
> why debian not making a official forum for debian-user
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:22:21 +0300
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe you could host a debian-offtopic list. Maybe there is some
> interest for that :)
hell come on over to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We con't care if yuu don't
run Mandrake :).
http://mandrakeot.mdw1982.com/
:)
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t at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg01852.html, yet, when I
hit the "Reply to: debian-user@lists.debian.org", my email client
(Thunderbird) pops up, with the subject being "Re: Re: debian forum",
without any of the posting that I'm responded to being included.
On 9/25/06, Everett Attebury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I made a bookmarklet to search the debian-user list. Just make a
bookmark, copy this javascript and paste it into the bookmark's
location field, and name it "Search debian-user list"
javascript:Qr=document.getSelection();if(!Qr){void(Qr=p
> I just tried the following in google:
> site:lists.debian.org debian-user debian forum
> and got 7420 hits in 0.54s.
>
> Then I tried:
> site:lists.debian.org debian-user "debian forum"
> and got 123 hits in 0.26s.
>
> I had been on the verge of testing a forum to find out about their
> claimed
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 03:50:04PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote:
>
> This is a good idea. People could participate through either email or
> by forum, and still include all the other list/forum users. This would
> make both the mailing list and forum more effective, as more users are
> available to
hen I
> hit the "Reply to: debian-user@lists.debian.org", my email client
> (Thunderbird) pops up, with the subject being "Re: Re: debian forum",
> without any of the posting that I'm responded to being included. I'm
> better off sticking with the mailin
On 9/25/06, Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If a forum could include postings from those using the mailing list,
and, postings within the forum could go to the mailing list as well
No need to create a new forum for this; this functionality is already
available. By means of a bi-direc
(http://lists.debian.org/users.html), but with expanded functionality.
For instance, I found your post at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg01852.html, yet, when I
hit the "Reply to: debian-user@lists.debian.org", my email client
(Thunderbird) pops up, with the subject being
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 01:36:25PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> I just tried the following in google:
> site:lists.debian.org debian-user debian forum
> and got 7420 hits in 0.54s.
>
> Then I tried:
> site:lists.debian.org debian-user "debian forum"
> and got 123 hits in 0.26s.
>
> I had bee
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 10:33:25AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 07:18:32PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> > > The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist
> > > is more in-
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 01:07:59PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:03:36PM +, John Kelly wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >> I'll never give up my trusty old mail/news client. It's ten
> > >> times faste
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 05:03:36PM +, John Kelly wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >> I'll never give up my trusty old mail/news client. It's ten
> >> times faster than using a web forum.
>
> >Forums are searchable where many email lists arc
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:54:55AM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:05:08 +
> John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:59:25 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >I think that people who value their time and effort more tend
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:54:55 -0700, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> I'll never give up my trusty old mail/news client. It's ten
>> times faster than using a web forum.
>Forums are searchable where many email lists archives are not.
Raquel, that's true. But some of us die-hards keep our ow
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 07:18:32PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> > The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist
> > is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues,
> > instead of us
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:05:08 +
John Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:59:25 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I think that people who value their time and effort more tend to
> >prefer the mailing list as it represents a much more efficient
Arthur Marsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> E0x wrote, On 2006-09-25 01:22:
> > "Because a forum cannot be accessed via ssh over a crappy dial up
> > connection? Believe it or not, many people here are on poor quality,
> > or intermittent or metered connections. They would rather read
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:38:18 -0400 (EDT), "Wolfe, Robert"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know this is off-topic, but since BBSes were mentioned, I should
>mention that I run one of these dinosaurs :)
The online experience will never get any better than a 33.6 modem
connection to BBS text mode inte
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:59:25 -0400
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If people want to prefer a forum over a mailing list, then they
> are free to do so. However, I think that people who value their
> time and effort more tend to prefer the mailing list as it
> represents a muc
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:59:25 -0400, "Roberto C. Sanchez"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think that people who value their time and effort more tend to
>prefer the mailing list as it represents a much more efficient way
>to communicate.
The click-wait, click-wait, click-wait, when using a web forum
Okay, I know this is off-topic, but since BBSes were mentioned, I should
mention that I run one of these dinosaurs :) Have been now for about 15
years nonstop :) I even monitor the Fidonet DEBIAN echo.
On Sun, September 24, 2006 7:47 pm, Arthur Marsh said:
> Paul Johnson wrote, On 2006-09-25 07:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:17:46AM +0930, Arthur Marsh wrote:
>
> Back on topic, a web forum can be good if it is easy to find relevant
> information (and gets indexed by Google et al) e.g. the broadband site
> www.whirlpool.net.au which does have very active moderation.
>
> Given proper archiv
Paul Johnson wrote, On 2006-09-25 07:09:
On Sunday 24 September 2006 14:16, Steve Lamb wrote:
Dave Sherohman wrote:
So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so
compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like
fear of change?
None as far as I
E0x wrote, On 2006-09-25 01:22:
"Because a forum cannot be accessed via ssh over a crappy dial up
connection? Believe it or not, many people here are on poor quality,
or intermittent or metered connections. They would rather read and
reply to mail than downloading images and oth
Julian De Marchi wrote:
> I am NOT trying to take over any of the other forums. Sorry if it seemed
> that way. I wish to create a place for people to talk about more in depth
> problems, where the answers can be archived and retrived by all. Forums
> will never beat mailling lists!
Not even fo
Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sunday 24 September 2006 14:16, Steve Lamb wrote:
>> filtering Webforums are to communications as email/newsgroups/BBSes were in
>> the mid-80s. Why anyone would want to go back 20 years is beyond me.
> Even BBS's had offline QWK packet readers for offline message reading.
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:18:32 -0600
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A major difficulty with this suggestion is, IMHO, the question of
> expert resources, that is to say the time of people whose answers
> to questions are actually useful.
I think that, given time, it will all sort out.
The people who help out will always be there. They help out, not becuase
the have to, but becuase they enjoy helping people. Anywayz not much i can
say in response to your message, as all your points are very valid.
I would like to see the forum work out as, the second palce to go if the
mailing l
Good point. Not much more I can say in response to your message. Cat got
my tounge i spose. I would like to see the forum have a fair go anywhos
and see if it can actually become usefull and not just a waste of
resources. Rermeber it is not to take over the maillinglist, but as a
palce to tlak in d
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 09:38:50AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist
> is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues,
> instead of using the maillist to ask for problems which have already been
> addresse
The purpose of the forum was not to ake over the mailing list, but assist
is more in-depth problems and a way of people to find common issues,
instead of using the maillist to ask for problems which have already been
addressesed. Is'nt it funny that, when the topic is first mentioned, not
many peop
On Sunday 24 September 2006 14:16, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Dave Sherohman wrote:
> > So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so
> > compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like
> > fear of change?
>
> None as far as I can tell. They're not prope
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:16:03 -0700, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Webforums are to communications as email/newsgroups/BBSes were in
> the mid-80s. Why anyone would want to go back 20 years is beyond me.
Webforums are too slow and cumbersome to read. I can read 10 times
faster with my
Hello Steven.
Steve Lamb wrote:
> Dave Sherohman wrote:
>> So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so
>> compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like
>> fear of change?
>
> None as far as I can tell. They're not properly threaded, there's
Dave Sherohman wrote:
> So, what are the advantages of changing to a web forum which are so
> compelling that not wanting to give up the advantages of mail looks like
> fear of change?
None as far as I can tell. They're not properly threaded, there's no way
to easily and effectively killfile
Julian De Marchi wrote:
> I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing
> list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out there for this?
Do a search in the archives and see how often this subject has come up.
Then realize there isn't really a prolific forum
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> This thread started with someone complaining that forums.debian.net
> is too small with only ~7000 registered users - fragmenting the user
> base even more widely with your offering doesn't seem like it's going
> to do much to hel
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:26:57 +0100
"Andrew Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/24/06, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > But then, Debian is all about "freedom". Right?
>
> Who said otherwise? I wasn't arguing that he cannot create a
> forum, merely that he probably *should* not. D
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 11:52:34AM -0400, E0x wrote:
> >
> >"Because a forum cannot be accessed via ssh over a crappy dial up
> >connection? Believe it or not, many people here are on poor quality,
> >or intermittent or metered connections. They would rather read and
> >reply to mail than downloa
"Because a forum cannot be accessed via ssh over a crappy dial up
connection? Believe it or not, many people here are on poor quality,or intermittent or metered connections. They would rather read and
reply to mail than downloading images and other nonsense. Besides, somefolks access their perso
On 9/24/06, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But then, Debian is all about "freedom". Right?
Who said otherwise? I wasn't arguing that he cannot create a forum,
merely that he probably *should* not. Dialogue and commentary are
means of persuasion, not of force.
But then, I suspect you alrea
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 09:05:22AM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:45:20 -0500
> Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 05:34:35PM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> > > I would say that if you want to do it, then you should. And
> > > then advertise it like crazy.
On Sunday 24 September 2006 10:16, Raquel wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:23:05 -0400
> "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> > > On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >I have taken th
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 09:23:05 -0400
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> > On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum.
> >
> > I'm curious: what
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 01:41:34PM +0100, Andrew Saunders wrote:
> On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum.
>
> I'm curious: what does your new forum have to offer that would make me
> want to use it over, say, forums.debian.
On 9/24/06, Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum.
I'm curious: what does your new forum have to offer that would make me
want to use it over, say, forums.debian.net? Moreover, why do you
think it more beneficial to create yet another De
Hi All,
I have taken the plunge and created a Debian Forum. I know alot of ppl are
against a forum, but i think it will turn into a good place to talk about
issues that are hard to solve due to the number of e-mails that need to be
sent and for of topic debian discussions. I think this can turn in
On Thursday 21 September 2006 17:34, Raquel wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:07:48 +1000 (EST)
>
> "Julian De Marchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this
> > mailing list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out
>
On Thursday 21 September 2006 12:17, S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
> why debian not making a official forum for debian-user??
Forums limit freedom, which is the exact opposite of what Debian is about.
Mailing lists let the user choose presentation and filtering options much
more flexibly than a
Roberto C. Sanchez writes:
> They would rather read and reply to mail than downloading images and
> other nonsense.
I have DSL and work from home but I prefer mailing-lists to "forums" (but
I prefer NNTP to mail for discussions). Forums force me to use their very
limited editors and do not allow
S. M. Ibrahim writes:
> why debian not making a official forum for debian-user?
Debian has many official mailing lists that are excellent forums.
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Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:22:21 +0300
> Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "Julian De Marchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Thats kool. Just making a suggestion, if the needs arises for a
> > > specific forum. I am willing to do alot for the u
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 20:22:21 +0300
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Julian De Marchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Thats kool. Just making a suggestion, if the needs arises for a
> > specific forum. I am willing to do alot for the users of this
> > mailing list as the information
"Julian De Marchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thats kool. Just making a suggestion, if the needs arises for a specific
> forum. I am willing to do alot for the users of this mailing list as the
> information gained from the mailing list is so useful and got me out of
> lots of trouble.
Maybe yo
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:45:20 -0500
Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 05:34:35PM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> > I would say that if you want to do it, then you should. And
> > then advertise it like crazy. There will be so many "nay
> > sayers" here that you'll become
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 05:34:35PM -0700, Raquel wrote:
> I would say that if you want to do it, then you should. And then
> advertise it like crazy. There will be so many "nay sayers" here
> that you'll become discourage very quickly. Some people don't like
> change and will fight with all thei
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:07:48 +1000 (EST)
"Julian De Marchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this
> mailing list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out
> there for this? If so, with some suggestions we can go ahead w
Thats kool. Just making a suggestion, if the needs arises for a specific
forum. I am willing to do alot for the users of this mailing list as the
information gained from the mailing list is so useful and got me out of
lots of trouble.
On Fri, September 22, 2006 10:19 am, Roberto C. Sanchez said:
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 10:07:48AM +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing
> list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out there for this?
> If so, with some suggestions we can go ahead with this at some pace
Hi All,
I would be willing to setup a Debian Forum for the users of this mailing
list on my web servers. Would there be much interest out there for this?
If so, with some suggestions we can go ahead with this at some pace and
have it up and running in a day or so.
Julian
On Fri, September 22,
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 01:17:47AM +0600, S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote:
> today at the time of searching http://debian.org get a link
> http://forums.debian.net
>
> but, there number of registed user is too few "We have *7054* registered
> users"
>
> why debian not making a official forum for debi
"S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> today at the time of searching http://debian.org get a link
> http://forums.debian.net
>
> but, there number of registed user is too few "We have *7054* registered
> users"
>
> why debian not making a official forum for debian-user??
>
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