Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-02-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 06:12:47PM +0100, Kevin Price wrote: >Dear Steve: > >Am 18.01.24 um 00:37 schrieb Steve McIntyre: >> Kevin Price wrote: >>> I'm not quite sure where to address this to, > >> Argh, that's my code in the debian-cd package. "reportbug debian-cd" >> should do the right thing...

Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-02-13 Thread Kevin Price
Dear Steve: Am 18.01.24 um 00:37 schrieb Steve McIntyre: > Kevin Price wrote: >> I'm not quite sure where to address this to, > Argh, that's my code in the debian-cd package. "reportbug debian-cd" > should do the right thing... Thank you for your help, I should have known. So I've now filed http

Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-01-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
Hi Kevin! Kevin Price wrote: > >I'm not quite sure where to address this to, but I'm certain this is a >bug: If you download debian installer media, for instance >debian-12.4.0-amd64-DLBD-2.iso, they prominenty include the files >"README.txt" and "README.html". Those presumably somehow auto-genera

Re: debian-cd baking process

2024-01-17 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 17 Jan 2024 18:00 +0100, from k...@osnanet.de (Kevin Price): > Could anyone please help me find where to file this bug to? Any ideas > much appreciated. Maybe there's a bug already that I didn't find. The canonical starting point is https://bugs.debian.org Notably for this situation, near the

Re: debian CD repository

2013-03-05 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 05-03-2013 08:31, Muhammad Yousuf Khan escreveu: thanks all and specially João Luis Meloni Assirati for providing such brief instruction and advices. would please be kind enough and share me a howto for creating a mirror server for LAN. which auto sync and updates all the new packages. I have

Re: debian CD repository

2013-03-05 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
thanks all and specially João Luis Meloni Assirati for providing such brief instruction and advices. would please be kind enough and share me a howto for creating a mirror server for LAN. which auto sync and updates all the new packages. Thanks, On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:58 PM, João Luis Meloni

Re: debian CD repository

2013-03-05 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 05-03-2013 07:27, Muhammad Yousuf Khan escreveu: i have downloaded all the Debian 6 DVDs from the repo. but as per my knowledge when i run "apt-get install" it directly go to internet how come i tell apt-get or dpkg to install it from DVDs and secondly it should ask for the correct DVD like Mi

Re: debian CD repository

2013-03-05 Thread Jude DaShiell
There is an apt-cd package to be used for what you want to do and you may need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list as well. On Tue, 5 Mar 2013, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i have downloaded all the Debian 6 DVDs from the repo. but as per my > knowledge when i run "apt-get install " it directly go to

Re: debian CD repository

2013-03-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 03:27:21PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > i have downloaded all the Debian 6 DVDs from the repo. but as per my > knowledge when i run "apt-get install " it directly go to > internet how come i tell apt-get or dpkg to install it from DVDs and > secondly it should ask fo

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-30 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Robert Holtzman schreef: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:22AM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Robert Holtzman schreef: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:03:37PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at least,

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-30 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Sjoerd: > The only exception of course is a > separate /boot to avoid boot problems. May You'll be laughing but this did now work for me. - I had the boot problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-30 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Robert: > What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at > least, on a separate partition. I've heard about diver strategies on FS dividing but like some kind of optimization that is in FS view is this: the free space is dynamically shared for

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-29 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:15:22AM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > Robert Holtzman schreef: > >On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:03:37PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > >>On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > >>>What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at least, > >>>on a separa

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-29 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:34:06 +0200 Aniruddha wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Perry E. Metzger > wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:46:29 +0200 Aniruddha > > wrote: > >> I have done some testing with Debian stable in Virtualbox and I > >> have to say XFS works as advertised. I did power

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-29 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Robert Holtzman schreef: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:03:37PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at least, on a separate partition. The *usual* plan is to put it on a separate drive (but since deb

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 06:03:37PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > >What was the reason for that? The usual plan is to put /home, at least, > >on a separate partition. > > > > The *usual* plan is to put it on a separate drive (but since debian > can'

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-28 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 15:09:08 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 2:04 PM: > > unplugged machine. At boot, I dropped to fsck command line. At command > > Were you forced to the command line or did you manually select to go to the > command line? It sounds like you chose

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-28 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 7/28/10 4:40 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:43:59PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do you need /boot to be ext4? Because I have single partition. :) What was t

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-28 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 09:43:59PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > > > Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do > > you need /boot to be ext4? > > Because I have single partition. :) What was the reason for that? The usual pla

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-28 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 28-07-10 21:34, Aniruddha schreef: > Agreed, it was hardly a double-blind randomized trial :) On a more > serious note: off course these tests don't prove anything. On the > other hand I have heard so many time that XFS can't handle a single > power failure without data corruption that I wanted

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-28 Thread Aniruddha
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:46:29 +0200 Aniruddha > wrote: >> I have done some testing with Debian stable in Virtualbox and I have >> to say XFS works as advertised. I did power off the virtual machine >> several times when working in Gnome /

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-28 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:46:29 +0200 Aniruddha wrote: > I have done some testing with Debian stable in Virtualbox and I have > to say XFS works as advertised. I did power off the virtual machine > several times when working in Gnome / copying files. And I did power > off the virtual 5 times in a row

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Paul E Condon put forth on 7/27/2010 8:53 PM: > Your original post in this thread addressed a quite disfunctional > attitude of OP, and IMHO, was correct but somewhat harshly worded. > In truth, he simply cannot have everything he wants all at the > same time. You should have left it at that, IMH

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-28 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > >> Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do >> you need /boot to be ext4? > > Because I have single partition. :) > > Well. For now I have tried w/ two - /boot as ext3 a

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-28 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > Using ext4 for /boot is discouraged but you can give it a try. Why do > you need /boot to be ext4? Because I have single partition. :) Well. For now I have tried w/ two - /boot as ext3 and / as ext4 - nothing happened - I got the into the same situa

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-28 Thread Sthu Deus
Stan: > My apologies for being rude, but someone needed to slap you upside > the head and bring you to reality. For the future please note, any your farther talks will be silently ignored by me. PS Sorry for this being sent to whole the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@li

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-28 Thread Aniruddha
I have done some testing with Debian stable in Virtualbox and I have to say XFS works as advertised. I did power off the virtual machine several times when working in Gnome / copying files. And I did power off the virtual 5 times in a row when booting. Nothing happened. Each time the virtual machin

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 28. 07. 2010 03:53:43 je Paul E Condon napisal(a): Stan, Have you ever heard of the term 'invincible ignorance'? Also, you have asserted with some vigor upstream Your original post ... IMHO, was correct but somewhat harshly worded. Peace. IMHO, Stan's deep, invaluable expertise is

Kudos to any DD contributing to debian-user [was: Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 27 iul 10, 23:43:07, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > I read debian-user locally via a mail-to-news gateway, which makes it > much more hassle for me to sign messages. Joke aside, I'd rather you continue reading debian-user, so whatever works for you is good ;) Kudos to you and the other DDs[1]

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100727_134650, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:29 PM: > > > I don't even think Linus is using XFS too. Isn't he a technical person > > Linus uses them all. You should know that. > > > in terms of your definition? So what should we do in that case? Ask to > >

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Rob Owens put forth on 7/27/2010 4:36 PM: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:39:18PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:19 PM: >> >>> About a year ago, in a similar rush to yours, I ported two of our >>> PostgreSQL database servers to XFS. During testing period, I even

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-27 Thread Steve McIntyre
Aaron Toponce wrote: >On 7/26/2010 11:46 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Lu, 26 iul 10, 12:42:05, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> >>> As an ex-DPL and the guy who puts together the official release Debian >>> CDs, I can vouch for his work. It's been very useful for me in the past. >> >> You forgot to GP

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 7/26/2010 11:46 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 26 iul 10, 12:42:05, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> As an ex-DPL and the guy who puts together the official release Debian >> CDs, I can vouch for his work. It's been very useful for me in the past. > > You forgot to GPG sign the mail :p Maybe th

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:39:18PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:19 PM: > > > About a year ago, in a similar rush to yours, I ported two of our > > PostgreSQL database servers to XFS. During testing period, I even > > couldn't *recover* the / fs after the ve

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Aniruddha
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Aniruddha wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Stan Hoeppner > wrote: >> Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 2:47 PM: >>> Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with  XFS on my laptop and >>> see how well it deals with power failures :) >> >> Thanks

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Aniruddha
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 2:47 PM: >> Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with  XFS on my laptop and >> see how well it deals with power failures :) > > Thanks for picking up the torch/gauntlet/whatever.  How do you laptop

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 2:47 PM: > Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with XFS on my laptop and > see how well it deals with power failures :) Thanks for picking up the torch/gauntlet/whatever. How do you laptop test this issue? It's a laptop. Yank the battery? Yanking t

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 2:04 PM: > unplugged machine. At boot, I dropped to fsck command line. At command Were you forced to the command line or did you manually select to go to the command line? It sounds like you chose to, not forced to. > prompt, I manually fiddled around with f

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Aniruddha
Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with XFS on my laptop and see how well it deals with power failures :)

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:59 PM: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: >> I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart >> enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what filesystem you use. >> If you're not you shouldn't be here. If you d

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > What write operations were you performing at the time you pulled the plug? > Unless you were writing the superblock it'd be almost impossible to hose the > filesystem to the point it couldn't mount. Were you doing a resize operation > when you pulled t

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:29 PM: > I don't even think Linus is using XFS too. Isn't he a technical person Linus uses them all. You should know that. > in terms of your definition? So what should we do in that case? Ask to > RMS? kernel.org servers all run XFS as well. -- Stan

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:19 PM: > About a year ago, in a similar rush to yours, I ported two of our > PostgreSQL database servers to XFS. During testing period, I even > couldn't *recover* the / fs after the very first power failure test. What write operations were you performing a

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread John Hasler
Stan Hoeppner writes: > I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is > smart enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what > filesystem you use. If you're not you shouldn't be here. I guess I don't belong here then... -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 12:03 PM: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: >> >>> You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. >>> (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 27. 07. 2010 19:48:53 je Mark napisal(a): > > NASA also trusts Windows and NTFS too? > NASA also backs up their data on 5.25" floppy disks [1]. [1] *completely made up information NASA as an authority on reliable storage? C'mon, the bozos can't even be trusted with their own Challen

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart > enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what filesystem you use. > If you're not you shouldn't be here. If you disagree on the technical merits > (not cost), you're

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread B. Alexander
We use XFS in production at work. Where I work, we are routinely dealing with hundreds of terabytes of data (I have heard the word "petabyte" bandied about in several meetings), so we are beyond or hovering on the edge of the size limits and performance limits of the ext filesystems. At home, I pr

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > > NASA trusts it with over 1PB of storage, but _you_ don't trust it? Who > are > > you again? How many hundreds of TB of storage do you manage on EXT3/4? > ;) > > NASA also trusts Windows and

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue July 27 2010, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart > enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what filesystem you > use. If you're not you shouldn't be here.  If you disagree on the technical > merits (not cost), you're u

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > NASA trusts it with over 1PB of storage, but _you_ don't trust it? Who are > you again? How many hundreds of TB of storage do you manage on EXT3/4? ;) NASA also trusts Windows and NTFS too? Who are you again? I think you are confusing apples and ora

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 9:43 AM: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > >> >> You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. >> (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS >> or something.) And that's where XFS totally

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 7/27/2010 11:20 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Aaron Toponce put forth on 7/27/2010 10:41 AM: > >> XFS has also had a history for randomly corrupting data. While this >> might have improved over time, I don't trust it. > > Can you cite or reference anything to back your claim? Time frame? Irix o

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: > 1. Never quote forum or email posts as empirical or reliable evidence of > anything. You're right, my bad. > You quoted this FAQ item solely based on the tile, without reading it, > in your effort to de

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Aaron Toponce put forth on 7/27/2010 10:41 AM: > XFS has also had a history for randomly corrupting data. While this > might have improved over time, I don't trust it. Can you cite or reference anything to back your claim? Time frame? Irix or Linux? Serious users reported this or casual/hobbyi

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Aniruddha
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: > > > You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. > > (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS > > or something.) And that's where XFS tota

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 09:51:53 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Lisi put forth on 7/27/2010 2:23 AM: > > On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. > > > > Stan - > > > > Have you the time to give a rationale for this? > > Sure. Thanks,

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: > You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. > (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS > or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. > [1] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-List

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 7/27/2010 1:23 AM, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. > > Stan - > > Have you the time to give a rationale for this? Except XFS filesystems can't shrink, only grow. Sucks when you need to resize parti

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Aniruddha
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > > You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. > (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS > or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. > Ext3 has the same problems when n

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Volkan YAZICI
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > 1. Best overall performance for most systems, large and small, and the FS > creation and mounting parameters are super configurable to match the system > hardware for best performance. One recent set of recent benchmarks > demonstrating so: > http://bt

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:51, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Debian will _always_ default to an EXT* filesystem--until the end of time. Nope, btrfs will replace ext3/4 as default soon enough. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Lisi put forth on 7/27/2010 2:23 AM: > On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. > > Stan - > > Have you the time to give a rationale for this? Sure. 1. Best overall performance for most systems, large and small, and the FS c

Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]

2010-07-27 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. Stan - Have you the time to give a rationale for this? I'm not in any way impugning your knowledge. But I am at the stage of accepting the default that Lenny gives me, for no better

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-27 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Sthu Deus put forth on 7/26/2010 6:00 AM: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > >> Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are exactly >> what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ... > > No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it is the thing I'm >

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > Go to http://db.debian.org/search.cgi and search for > > First name: Kenshi > Last name: Muto > > Which will provide further information about Kenshi like his IRC name > (i.e. kmuto) and his GPG fingerprint. You could also check for his key > in t

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:00:34PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > > > Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are exactly > > what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ... > > No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Lisi
On Monday 26 July 2010 14:25:47 Sthu Deus wrote: > > Or you could still always do as has been suggested several times: use > > Kenshi Muto's installer. > > As soon as I understand that it is trustworthy. You aren't going to do so because you don't accept it. If you want the sort of stability and

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 26 iul 10, 12:42:05, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > As an ex-DPL and the guy who puts together the official release Debian > CDs, I can vouch for his work. It's been very useful for me in the past. You forgot to GPG sign the mail :p Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users a

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 08:17:06PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: > > > What part of "This directory provides Debian GNU/Linux Stable > > installer ISO images with a modification by Kenshi Muto to support > > newer hardwares, such as SATA and Ethernet devices.

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Lisi: > If you don't like any of the suggestions, you have four choices: > > 1) Do nothing, use a filing system which is used in the basic Lenny > installation and wait for Squeeze to become Stable. That's my choice for now. > 2) Use Squeeze; it is apparentl

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: > What part of "This directory provides Debian GNU/Linux Stable > installer ISO images with a modification by Kenshi Muto to support > newer hardwares, such as SATA and Ethernet devices." don't you > understand? Sorry, what are You talking about? --

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
Sthu Deus wrote: >Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > >> Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are exactly >> what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ... > >No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it is the thing I'm >looking for. Just two importa

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 18:00 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > > > Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are > > exactly what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ... > > No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it is t

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-26 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > Why don't you just use the images provided by kmuto? They are exactly > what you are looking for. I don't get your resistence ... No any resistance absolutely! I think too that it is the thing I'm looking for. Just two important things remain for me

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-25 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 19:51:53 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 24 July 2010 17:21:28 Florian Kulzer wrote: > > Furthermore, he is asking the wrong question if he wants real security. > > If one downloads via an insecure protocol (http, ftp) then it does not > > matter if the UR

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 24 iul 10, 19:51:53, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Good question. I don't know how to verify the installation media. Assuming > it uses the standard apt and normal repositories, all the packages installed > during installation will be verified, and the archive/repository must be >

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-24 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 24 July 2010 17:21:28 Florian Kulzer wrote: > Furthermore, he is asking the wrong question if he wants real security. > If one downloads via an insecure protocol (http, ftp) then it does not > matter if the URL points to debian.org, kmuto.jp or rootkits-r-us.com, > because one is unprot

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 14:21:38 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/24/2010 01:50 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: > >Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > > > >>Yes it is. That's why I suggested the kmuto installer. > > > >Is there any reference fro Debian web site to the kmuto site - I have > >found o

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/24/2010 01:50 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: Yes it is. That's why I suggested the kmuto installer. Is there any reference fro Debian web site to the kmuto site - I have found one reference from searching machine but the link was not found on the Debian

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-24 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 24 July 2010 07:39:49 Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: > > Isn't the Stable kernel too old to have a stable ext4 implementation? > > I guess it is, so no other official ways to go? If you don't like any of the suggestions, you have four choices: 1) Do nothin

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/24/2010 01:43 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: This sure looks like it might be a Live CD: http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.32/lenny-custom-0116.iso How I can be sure it is official and by the Debian security team supported? What part of "This direct

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-24 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 13:43 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: > > > This sure looks like it might be a Live CD: > >http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.32/lenny-custom-0116.iso > > How I can be sure it is official and by the Debian security team > supported? W

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 24 iul 10, 13:50:02, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > > > Yes it is. That's why I suggested the kmuto installer. > > Is there any reference fro Debian web site to the kmuto site - I have > found one reference from searching machine but the link was not found

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > Yes it is. That's why I suggested the kmuto installer. Is there any reference fro Debian web site to the kmuto site - I have found one reference from searching machine but the link was not found on the Debian site. How I can know that the ISO images t

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: > This sure looks like it might be a Live CD: >http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.32/lenny-custom-0116.iso How I can be sure it is official and by the Debian security team supported? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Ron: > Isn't the Stable kernel too old to have a stable ext4 implementation? I guess it is, so no other official ways to go? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Sthu Deus put forth on 7/23/2010 11:08 AM: > Are You speaking about this images ? > > If not then why do speak about the installer? > > I need not a special installer. Yes, you do. > I need a stable installable CD that is > able to install on ext4 (on HDD). Suc

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/23/2010 11:08 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: Do You know how safe it is? What do you mean? The "kmuto installer" is an installer for Debian stable releases with up-to-date kernels provided by a Debian developer. Are You speaking about this images

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Wolodja: > > Do You know how safe it is? > > What do you mean? The "kmuto installer" is an installer for Debian > stable releases with up-to-date kernels provided by a Debian > developer. Are You speaking about this images ? If

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 22 iul 10, 21:47:50, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >Is it possible to obtain a cd image of the stable Debian w/ a kernel > >supporting ext4 so that I can install it on the FS and then boot from > >the HDD? > > > > Isn't the Stable kernel too old to have a stable ext4 implementation? Yes it is.

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/19/2010 12:09 PM, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. Is it possible to obtain a cd image of the stable Debian w/ a kernel supporting ext4 so that I can install it on the FS and then boot from the HDD? Isn't the Stable kernel too old to have a stable ext4 implementation? -- Seek truth from fact

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-20 Thread Amrit Panesar
On 7/20/2010 11:15 AM, Sthu Deus wrote: Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: The "kmuto installer" was mentioned earlier on the list. Do You know how safe it is? It is save. We assure you. The kumto installer is the main alternative debian installer and is widely used t

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-20 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 01:15 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > > > The "kmuto installer" was mentioned earlier on the list. > > Do You know how safe it is? What do you mean? The "kmuto installer" is an installer for Debian stable releases with up-to-date ke

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-20 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei: > The "kmuto installer" was mentioned earlier on the list. Do You know how safe it is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lis

Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.

2010-07-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 20 iul 10, 00:09:53, Sthu Deus wrote: > Good day. > > Is it possible to obtain a cd image of the stable Debian w/ a kernel > supporting ext4 so that I can install it on the FS and then boot from > the HDD? The "kmuto installer" was mentioned earlier on the list. Regards, Andrei -- Offtop

Re: Debian CD Reseller

2005-08-04 Thread Robert Wolfe, MCP
"The easiest way, however, is to distribute both binary and source CDs at the same time and at the same price. Since CDs are quite cheap these days, this will only slightly increase the price. " This would be the way I want to go. If I do get some Netinst purchased I want to include the source pa

Re: Debian CD Reseller

2005-08-04 Thread Joe Smith
Hi all. I was wondering what I would need to be an OFFICIAL seller of Debian CDROMs. I currently have 12 available (either in sets or netinst CDs) in my eBay store and was wondering what I would need to do to get myself on the OFFICIAL CD (re)seller listing? First read this: http://www.debian.

Re: debian cd

2004-12-13 Thread Robert Parker
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 01:53, Jianan wrote: > Hi, > > Ni hao! > > Is there a distributor of Debian CD in Singapore? I am looking for the > 'testing' CD. > > Jianan I track Sarge weekly, both cds and dvds. I'm located in Australia. Bob Parker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: debian cd

2004-12-13 Thread Sam Watkins
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 10:53:49PM +0800, Jianan wrote: > Is there a distributor of Debian CD in Singapore? I am looking for the > 'testing' CD. yes. http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/#sg http://www.mynasoft.com/orders.htm They are only advertising woody CDs, they say to contact them by email if

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