Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-19 Thread Anssi Saari
Henrik Ahlgren writes: > Perhaps try Magic-Wormhole: > > https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ > > apt install magic-wormhole Very interesting, thank you. Maybe not that great for LAN use but I might have have a use for it.

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Anssi Saari wrote: > Christian Britz writes: > > Am 16.11.24 um 05:42 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > > >> If your Windows machine can run an ssh daemon that you can log into, > >> then you could use it as your SOCKS proxy, though I have no idea how > >> you'd go about

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:34:00 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk > wrote: > > "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to > > > >list all the way

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Anssi Saari
Christian Britz writes: > Am 16.11.24 um 05:42 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > >> If your Windows machine can run an ssh daemon that you can log into, >> then you could use it as your SOCKS proxy, though I have no idea how >> you'd go about setting up an sshd on Windows. > > Should not be to hard using

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/11/2024 11:20, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 10:30:06AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Are there any errors in Console ([Ctrl+Shift+K])? Right click on any entry allows to copy or to save all messages. The message id is russell#1 I suspect that GL canvas on an error pa

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 08:33:25PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup reports a location of Texas for this address, so server-side Geo IP blocking seems unlikely. A rural area a little south of Austin. My ISP is RTA (rtatel.com). If no browser extensions have b

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 04:20:27 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 10:30:06AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 18/11/2024 09:47, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > You may try to open Web Developer Tools (under

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 01:16:57 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > With the approx server, reinstallation is quick, and this being a > spare machine, there is no need to install a bunch of packages and set > up the desktop. Anyway, the installation is complete, and now I have > a pristine installa

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 10:30:06AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 18/11/2024 09:47, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: You may try to open Web Developer Tools (under "More tools" in the hamburger menu, [F12] or [Ctrl+Shift+I]). Are there any er

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/11/2024 09:47, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: You may try to open Web Developer Tools (under "More tools" in the hamburger menu, [F12] or [Ctrl+Shift+I]). Are there any errors in Console ([Ctrl+Shift+K])? A bunch.  Too many for me

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:28:14PM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: I tested https://www.chewy.com/ on a clean install of FireFox ESR with no plugins and the site works fine. Try purging Firefox and reinstalling. sudo apt purge firefox-esr sudo apt install firefox-esr Google Chrome also wo

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 02:47:32 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > Hope, you did *not* log in into a Firefox account to sync bookmarks, > > add-ons, and some preferences. > > No, I did not. > > > > You may try to open Web Developer

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Hope, you did *not* log in into a Firefox account to sync bookmarks, add-ons, and some preferences. No, I did not. You may try to open Web Developer Tools (under "More tools" in the hamburger menu, [F12] or [Ctrl+Shift+I]). Are t

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 02:21:20 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 08:33:25PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup reports a location of Texas for > > this address, so server-side Geo IP blocking seems unlikely. > > A rural area a little sout

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
I tested https://www.chewy.com/ on a clean install of FireFox ESR with no plugins and the site works fine. Try purging Firefox and reinstalling. sudo apt purge firefox-esr sudo apt install firefox-esr Google Chrome also works fine with no issues as well. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The univer

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 01:16:57 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: The only customization I made was to install xfce rather than gnome. I am using the browser (Firefox ESR) which was installed automatically with the desktop (xfce). Hope, you did *not* log in into a Firefox account to sync bookma

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 02:06:12PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:39:36 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: I have here a spare machine. In the hope of resolving the matter in the company of experts, I propose to do another installation of Debian, using netinst with the "exp

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 02:41:24PM +, Andy Smith wrote: Anyway, as I think we all mostly agree, there is some misconfiguration going on here that is causing OP's web browsing experience on Debian to be compromised. I have here a spare machine. In the hope of resolving the matter in the com

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:39:36 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > I have here a spare machine. In the hope of resolving the matter in > the company of experts, I propose to do another installation of > Debian, using netinst with the "expert" option. Possibly this is overkill. Try shutting down yo

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Sunday 17 November 2024 12:11:37 pm Joe wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:47:20 -0600 > John Hasler wrote: > > > Joe writes: > > > Yep, if a web designer can't put a single character on a screen > > > without using JS, the rest of his offering is not likely to be worth > > > making an effort to

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread tomas
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 05:39:36PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 02:41:24PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Anyway, as I think we all mostly agree, there is some misconfiguration > > going on here that is causing OP's web browsing experience on Debian to > > be compromised.

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > Yep, if a web designer can't put a single character on a screen > without using JS, the rest of his offering is not likely to be worth > making an effort to look at. They don't use JS. They use "website builders" that produce unreadable masses of HTML and JS that pull in chunks of J

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 03:24:55PM +, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:30:20 -0500 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Except the OP in this thread claims he has never disabled Javascript > > (didn't even know what that *meant*), and in fact does not yet know > > what's causing the problem. >

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:30:20AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:34:00 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > I was the 'guy in England', but that's irrelevant because the problem > > there was sites that were discriminating based on the user-agent string > > s

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:34:00 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list > > >all the ways the OP might have caused this to fai

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." wrote: ... if a web site wants to be *that* obnoxious I'll often decide that they're not worth the trouble of bothering with. :-) +1 My +1 as well, Roger

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread debian-user
"Roy J. Tellason, Sr." wrote: > I routinely get that "blank white page" result in firefox here, and > find that fiddling with the settings in the noscript plugin often > fixes it. OTOH, if a web site wants to be *that* obnoxious I'll > often decide that they're not worth the trouble of bothe

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread debian-user
"Russell L. Harris" wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list > >all the ways the OP might have caused this to fail. > > > >We start by observing that nobody else has been able to reproduce the >

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Christian Britz
Am 16.11.24 um 05:42 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > If your Windows machine can run an ssh daemon that you can log into, > then you could use it as your SOCKS proxy, though I have no idea how > you'd go about setting up an sshd on Windows. Should not be to hard using Windows' built-in WSL (you can e

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 02:47:37PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: OK, add another item to the list: * Server-side blocking. Whether based on the client's IP address or user agent or cookies or any other data, the web server might be rejecting this client's requests specifically. If you go to an

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Saturday 16 November 2024 01:03:34 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > > white page. > > I'

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 19:24:07 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list > > all the ways the OP might have caused this to fail. > > > > We start by observing that nobo

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:15:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: With javascript disabled for chewy,com I get a blank white page with Debian 12 and Firefox. Allowing javascript seems to result in a fully functional site. I know nothing about javascript; how do I "allow" javascript? Or, what did I d

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list all the ways the OP might have caused this to fail. We start by observing that nobody else has been able to reproduce the OP's failure. Two or three months ago,

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread eben
On 11/16/24 13:18, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:15:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: With javascript disabled for chewy,com I get a blank white page with Debian 12 and Firefox. Allowing javascript seems to result in a fully functional site. I know nothing about javascript; h

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
> Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > white page. I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list all the

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
On Sat, 2024-11-16 at 12:30 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > > Is there an easy way to send the message (or just the URL) to the > > Window$ machine? > > Use a pastebin? Setup mail in Windows? Connect to the Windows machine > via remote desktop and remotely use the browser there? There are so many > wa

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:33:21 -0500 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > I get to the Chewy website with no issues using: Trixie, KDE and > Google Chrome browser. If you are getting a plain white screen on > Firefox then it is likely a firefox issue and not a debian issue. Try > installing Google Chrome

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 04:28:59AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > I keep a W10 machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access > the chewy.com web site which, since about June, serves my Debian > machines a blank white page. With javascript disabled for chewy,com I get a blank whit

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread tomas
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 04:28:59AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > white page. Only one

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Anssi Saari
"Russell L. Harris" writes: > Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > white page. Only one of the Debian machines is set up for

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Chris Green
Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 11:42:24PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >Most importantly, though, I'd try to figure out why your browser on > >Debian is having problems. If you create a brand new user account, > >and run the browser with no add-ons, does it also have problems

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-15 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 11:31 PM Russell L. Harris wrote: > Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > white page. I get to the Ch

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-15 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 11:42:24PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: Most importantly, though, I'd try to figure out why your browser on Debian is having problems. If you create a brand new user account, and run the browser with no add-ons, does it also have problems with this web site? Maybe it's so

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 04:28:59 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > white page. chewy.com l