Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 15:49:12 +0100, Lisi wrote in message <201204111549.12321.lisi.re...@gmail.com>: > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 17:07:16 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:28:59 +0100, Lisi wrote in message > > > > <201204041128.59935.lisi.re...@gmail.com>: > > > On Wednesday 04 Apri

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-11 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 17:07:16 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:28:59 +0100, Lisi wrote in message > > <201204041128.59935.lisi.re...@gmail.com>: > > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by >

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:28:59 +0100, Lisi wrote in message <201204041128.59935.lisi.re...@gmail.com>: > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by > >     default. > > ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 08:28:33PM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > funny. Now if it was a picture of two hippos in a river... that would > make perfect sense. :-) What about the poor hippo who kept swimming in circles after they kicked him off the hippo campus? -- "Religion is excellent stuff for

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 07 April 2012 11:28:33 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 07/04/12 19:54, Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 07 April 2012 00:39:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: > >>> That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. > >>> It is quite simply wrong in English to say "since installs".

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/04/12 19:54, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 07 April 2012 00:39:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. >>> It is quite simply wrong in English to say "since installs". Leave >>> out the words "since Lenny", and "installs" becomes c

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 07 April 2012 00:39:58 Scott Ferguson wrote: > > That is about spelling, not grammar.  Since requires the perfect tense. > > It is quite simply wrong in English to say "since installs".  Leave > > out the words "since Lenny", and "installs" becomes correct, but loses > > some of the

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-07 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 April 2012 23:43:37 Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > One of the keys to "plain English" is brevity. ;-) > > > > > > http://www.dailywritingtips.com/?p=4904#comment-303296 > > > > That is about spelling, not grammar.  Since requires the perfect tense. > > It is > > It was supposed to be a

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Pierre Frenkiel
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012, Chris Bannister wrote: AIUI, no one knows *yet* whether aptitude or apt-get will be preferred for Wheezy until the usual testing takes place near the time of actual release. look at this (from the Debian Project News, 23 Jan 2012) http://www.perrier.eu.org/weblog/2012/

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/04/12 05:54, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 06 April 2012 20:34:28 Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Note that apt-get *installs* recommended

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 07/04/12 05:34, Chris Bannister wrote: > > http://www.dailywritingtips.com/?p=4904#comment-303296 > You shouldn't have eaten those mushrooms. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.o

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 08:54:47PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 06 April 2012 20:34:28 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >> Note tha

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 April 2012 21:38:44 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 06 apr 12, 20:54:47, Lisi wrote: > > That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. > > It is quite simply wrong in English to say "since installs". Leave > > out the words "since Lenny", and "installs" be

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 06 apr 12, 20:54:47, Lisi wrote: > > That is about spelling, not grammar. Since requires the perfect tense. It is > quite simply wrong in English to say "since installs". Leave out the > words "since Lenny", and "installs" becomes correct, but loses some of the > intended meaning.

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:35:00AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 04 apr 12, 02:01:41, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > For a start it is possibly all just hot air unless it is discussed on > > the debian-doc list and/or a patch submitted against the debian-faq > > package. I know that you ar

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 April 2012 20:34:28 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: > > > On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > >> Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since > > >

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:38:29AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: > > On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since > >> Lenny and starting with Squeeze is the preferred program to

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 5. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 18:58:07 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: > > > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages > > > > by

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 19:00:44 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: > > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 12:14:55 Scott Ferguson wrote: > > > ... since Lenny, apt-get will continue to install recommended > > > packages by default. So I believe "has" is redundant, eve

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 18:58:07 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: > > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > >  Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by > > > > > >     default. > > > > ...since Lenny, apt-get *h

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 12:14:55 Scott Ferguson wrote: > > ... since Lenny, apt-get will continue to install recommended > > packages by default. So I believe "has" is redundant, even though > > it's correct. > > What is wrong with : > > Apt-get will

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 4. April 2012 schrieb Lisi: > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by > > > > default. > > ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.. Why? It still does. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 12:14:55 Scott Ferguson wrote: > ... since Lenny, apt-get will continue to install recommended packages > by default.  So I believe "has" is redundant, even though it's correct. What is wrong with : Apt-get will continue to install recommended packages by default. Wh

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/04/12 20:28, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by >> default. > > ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.. > > ;-) > Lisi > > Even trickier - since Lenny developers have been

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/04/12 19:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 04 apr 12, 11:38:29, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> My suggestions:- >> >> 1. rephrased for clarity, but hardly succin*c*t. >> Note that since Lenny, apt-get installs recommended[*1] packages by default. >> Beginning with the release of Squeeze[*2], apt i

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 10:01:47 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Note that since Lenny, apt-get *installs* recommended packages by >     default. ...since Lenny, apt-get *has installed*.. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 04 April 2012 02:38:29 Scott Ferguson wrote: > 2. How I'd write it:- > Apt is the recommended program to perform system installation and major > system upgrades.[*3] > > 3. To avoid confusion people should read the fine Debian documentation > in their native language. :-) +1 Lisi

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 04 apr 12, 11:38:29, Scott Ferguson wrote: > My suggestions:- > > 1. rephrased for clarity, but hardly succint. > Note that since Lenny, apt-get installs recommended[*1] packages by default. > Beginning with the release of Squeeze[*2], apt is the recommended > program to perform system inst

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/04/12 07:46, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since >> Lenny and starting with Squeeze is the preferred program to perform >> system installation and major system upgrades. > > Note

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 03 April 2012 22:35:00 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Note that apt-get *installs* recommended packages by default since >     Lenny and starting with Squeeze is the preferred program to perform >     system installation and major system upgrades. Note that apt-get *has installed* recommended

Re: debian-faq (was ... Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude)

2012-04-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 04 apr 12, 02:01:41, Chris Bannister wrote: > > For a start it is possibly all just hot air unless it is discussed on > the debian-doc list and/or a patch submitted against the debian-faq > package. I know that you are involved in translations and hence have > some influence/knowledge so I