Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Friday 23 August 2013 23:30:15 Robert Holtzm wrote: > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 18:46 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > What baffles me, is why you are reading and posting on this list if > > > you disapprove of Debian's politics. > > >

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On 8/23/2013 10:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: It is *probably* legal in the USA for Debian to distribute it. However, no one wants to find out the hard way that I am wrong about that, and in any case it's easy to get it elsewhere. Actually, probably NOT legal to distribute in the U.S., according

Re: deb-multimedia repository

> It is *probably* legal in the USA for Debian to distribute it. However, > no one wants to find out the hard way that I am wrong about that, and in > any case it's easy to get it elsewhere. > > Actually, probably NOT legal to distribute in the U.S., according to the > DMCA. See > http://en.wik

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On 8/23/2013 5:36 PM, John Hasler wrote: Dom writes: I thought the reason that libdvdcss(2) wasn't included in the Debian repos isn't because of any issues with the licensing, but because it may potentially be illegal to use in some areas due to the fact the it cracks copyright protection on med

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 15:30 -0700, Robert Holtzm wrote: > On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 18:46 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > What baffles me, is why you are reading and posting on this list if > > > you disapprove of Debian's politics. > >

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:07:17PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 18:46 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > What baffles me, is why you are reading and posting on this list if > > you disapprove of Debian's politics. > > Perhaps you killfiled me?! If not, here's my explanation. I'm an

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 16:36 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Dom writes: > > I thought the reason that libdvdcss(2) wasn't included in the Debian > > repos isn't because of any issues with the licensing, but because it > > may potentially be illegal to use in some areas due to the fact the it > > cracks

Re: deb-multimedia repository

Dom writes: > I thought the reason that libdvdcss(2) wasn't included in the Debian > repos isn't because of any issues with the licensing, but because it > may potentially be illegal to use in some areas due to the fact the it > cracks copyright protection on media. It is *probably* legal in the U

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On 23/08/13 18:46, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 23 August 2013 02:04:01 Doug wrote: My complaint is with Debian's politics: if it's not FOSS, you can't have it. I have non-FLOSS applications on my Debian computer. I also used an unofficial installer that had non-free drivers in. It was readil

Re: deb-multimedia repository

Hi, Dňa Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz napísal: > On Friday 23 August 2013 02:04:01 Doug wrote: > > My complaint is with Debian's politics: if it's not FOSS, you can't > > have it. > > I have non-FLOSS applications on my Debian computer. I also used an > unofficial installer that

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 18:46 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > What baffles me, is why you are reading and posting on this list if > you disapprove of Debian's politics. Perhaps you killfiled me?! If not, here's my explanation. I'm an Arch Linux user, but still take care about Debian users and the Ubuntu

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Friday 23 August 2013 02:04:01 Doug wrote: > My complaint is with Debian's politics: if it's not FOSS, you can't have > it. I have non-FLOSS applications on my Debian computer. I also used an unofficial installer that had non-free drivers in. It was readily available, and I learnt about it

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 21:04:01 -0400 Doug wrote: > My complaint is with Debian's politics: if it's not FOSS, you can't > have it. That's just wrong. Why on Earth would there be a Non-Free repository otherwise? I have plenty of non-free software on my Debian Sid. See here:

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On 08/22/2013 07:41 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Doug wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >>> Ralf Mardorf wrote: Did you ever need libdvdcss(2)? >>> >>> Only when playing DVDs. Or are you are asking if I ever *need* to >>> play a DVD? >> >> This exchange perfectly illustrates why I took Debian off my com

Re: deb-multimedia repository

Doug wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> Did you ever need libdvdcss(2)? > > > > Only when playing DVDs. Or are you are asking if I ever *need* to > > play a DVD? > > This exchange perfectly illustrates why I took Debian off my computer > two-plus years ago. What software dis

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On 08/22/2013 06:09 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 15:44 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> Chris Bannister wrote: That is a 3rd party repository and not supported by Debian, if you have any issues with that site or packages from that site please take it up

Re: deb-multimedia repository

Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Did you ever need libdvdcss(2)? > > > > Only when playing DVDs. Or are you are asking if I ever *need* to > > play a DVD? > > IIRC when I played borrowed DVDs from a video rental store I _guess_ it > wasn't needed. I'm not abs

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 16:09 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 15:44 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > That is a 3rd party repository and not supported by Debian, if you have > > > > any issues with that site or packages from that si

Re: deb-multimedia repository

Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 15:44 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > That is a 3rd party repository and not supported by Debian, if you have > > > any issues with that site or packages from that site please take it up > > > with them. > > > > Specifically for

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 15:44 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > François Patte wrote: > > > I tried to install libdvdcss2 from this repository and followed a tuto > > > explaining that: > > > ... > > > deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free > > > > That is a 3rd part

Re: deb-multimedia repository

Chris Bannister wrote: > François Patte wrote: > > I tried to install libdvdcss2 from this repository and followed a tuto > > explaining that: > > ... > > deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free > > That is a 3rd party repository and not supported by Debian, if you have > any issues wi

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 22:20 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 8/21/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem. > > > > Wrong! > > Subtle! > > > Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trus

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On 8/21/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: >> Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem. > > Wrong! Subtle! > Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trust, so for the > first time you'll get the key this way. Such a package will

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:13:44PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > I tried to install libdvdcss2 from this repository and followed a tuto > explaining that: > > 1- install deb-multimedia-keyring > > this package was not found seems to be correct because the > sources-list file sh

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem. Wrong! Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trust, so for the first time you'll get the key this way. Such a package will update keys as long as the older keys still can be u

Re: deb-multimedia repository

François Patte: > > ATTENTION : les paquets suivants n'ont pas été authentifiés. > deb-multimedia-keyring > Faut-il installer ces paquets sans vérification (o/N) ? > > OK! it seems to be "normal" because the right keyring is not installed... Exactly. Your apt is missing the key required to ver

Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 12:33 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > You need to apt-get update after installing the keyring package. Assumed something unexpected should happen and he wants to post the output, then LANG=C apt-get update -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: deb-multimedia repository

François please use LANG=C to switch to English output. The keyring adds security. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377081910.1192.44.camel@archlinux

Re: deb-multimedia repository

The Wednesday 21 August 2013 12:13:44, François Patte wrote : > Bonjour, > > I tried to install libdvdcss2 from this repository and followed a tuto > explaining that: > > 1- install deb-multimedia-keyring > > this package was not found seems to be correct because the > sources-list file shou