Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-09 Thread Francis Gerund
Hi. I did work with both hinting and sub-pixel order. Full hinting was the best setting for hinting. The sub-pixel order did not seem to make any difference. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: > Francis Gerund wrote: > > > And the display doesn't look defective or mis-calibr

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-09 Thread Mike Kupfer
Francis Gerund wrote: > And the display doesn't look defective or mis-calibrated, just more like > 1995 than 2015. I think it just lame fonts in XFCE, not the physical > display. You could try tuning the font settings (Settings>Appearance>Fonts). The Hinting setting can make a huge difference,

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Francis Gerund
Well, it's on a laptop, so there's no (external) data cable involved. And the resolution seems to be set correctly at maximum, 1366 x 768, IIRC. And the display doesn't look defective or mis-calibrated, just more like 1995 than 2015. I think it just lame fonts in XFCE, not the physical display.

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Erwan David wrote: > Note also that using testing give you the advantage of not having to > upgrade all software at the same time, but gradually. Yes. This is just like removing a bandage. You don't have to take it off all at once. You can pull it off very slowly and savor the feeling of each h

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Joe wrote: > Francis Gerund wrote: > > Or, I can always reinstall. The XFCE didplay is so fuzzy, it hurts > > my eyes (even after woring with the gui adjustments). Maybe I will > > go back to being a slave to Gnome - unconfigureable, but looks better. > > That's generally a sign that a non-CRT m

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Francis Gerund
Actually, I have been using Debian (off and on), since the 1990's. My first real GNU/Linux distribution was Debian 2.0 - "Hamm"! "I wish I could quit you." - from the movie, Brokeback Mountain I have dabbled a little with testing before, but mostly stayed with stable, when I was usin

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Brian
On Mon 08 Jun 2015 at 19:35:53 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 08/06/2015 19:29, Nicolas George a écrit : > > > > If you have decided you are up to the task of using testing, then do it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Note also that using testing give you the advantage of not having to > upgrade all sof

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Joe
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:09:21 -0500 Francis Gerund wrote: > Do you mean just changing the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from > "testing" to "stretch"? Would that work? > Yes, there should be no change in operation, as the same repositories will be used. > Or, I can always reinstall. The XFCE d

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Erwan David
Le 08/06/2015 19:29, Nicolas George a écrit : > Le decadi 20 prairial, an CCXXIII, Francis Gerund a écrit : >> Do you mean just changing the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from "testing" >> to "stretch"? Would that work? >> >> Or, I can always reinstall. > Or you could just leave it as is. The ben

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 20 prairial, an CCXXIII, Francis Gerund a écrit : > Do you mean just changing the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from "testing" > to "stretch"? Would that work? > > Or, I can always reinstall. Or you could just leave it as is. The benefits of waiting after each release to branch on tes

correction was Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 June 2015 17:21:35 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 08 June 2015 17:09:21 Francis Gerund wrote: > > Do you mean just changing the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from > > "testing" to "stretch"? > > Yes, taht uis what I mean. Yes, that is what I mean. Sorry. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 June 2015 17:09:21 Francis Gerund wrote: > Do you mean just changing the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from "testing" > to "stretch"? Yes, taht uis what I mean. > Would that work? Yes. > Or, I can always reinstall. The XFCE didplay is so fuzzy, it hurts my eyes > (even after w

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-08 Thread Francis Gerund
Do you mean just changing the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list from "testing" to "stretch"? Would that work? Or, I can always reinstall. The XFCE didplay is so fuzzy, it hurts my eyes (even after woring with the gui adjustments). Maybe I will go back to being a slave to Gnome - unconfigureable, b

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 07 June 2015 19:38:45 Francis Gerund wrote: > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 07 June 2015 02:54:56 Francis Gerund wrote: > > > upgrading in place sounds good in theory, but > > > never quite works right > > > > What do you think will happen when Stretch b

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-07 Thread Brian
On Sun 07 Jun 2015 at 00:12:48 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Francis Gerund wrote: > > FWIW, here is the new /etc/apt/sources.list: > > > > # > > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture > > amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20150$ > > > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-07 Thread Francis Gerund
Well, too late now! Guess I'll just fight with testing, until it breaks. Or Devuan gets released (Hurry!!) On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 07 June 2015 02:54:56 Francis Gerund wrote: > > upgrading in place sounds good in theory, but > > never quite works right >

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-07 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 07 June 2015 02:54:56 Francis Gerund wrote: > upgrading in place sounds good in theory, but > never quite works right What do you think will happen when Stretch becomes Stable? You will upgrade in place, instantly, totally uncontrolled by you. Ignoring all release notes. Much better

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Francis Gerund wrote: > FWIW, here is the new /etc/apt/sources.list: > > # > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture > amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20150$ > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture > amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20150$

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-06 Thread Francis Gerund
Hey guys, thanks for the replies. I did change from Debian 8 stable to testing, seems to be okay for now. FWIW, here is the new /etc/apt/sources.list: # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _Jessie_ - Official Multi-architecture amd64/i386 NETINST #1 20150$ # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.0.0 _

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-06 Thread Brian
On Sat 06 Jun 2015 at 12:56:38 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Francis Gerund wrote: > > Yes. That would be okay. > > I suggest using the named release candidate "stretch" rather than > "testing". That way when stretch releases and becomes the new Stable > release at that time your system would not

Re: convert Jessie stable to pure testing

2015-06-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Francis Gerund wrote: > It should be so simple . . . It is simple. :-) > 1) I have a new installation of Debian 8 stable (Jessie). > > 2) I want to convert it to a pure Debian testing setup, to track testing > indefinitely. Beware that Testing is entering the most volatile time in its lifecycl