Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-15 Thread gradetwo
try to disable the flash plugin,then suggest use 'adblock plus' . 在 2008-04-10四的 22:07 -0400,Douglas A. Tutty写道: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:45:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > > > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > >

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-14 Thread Jean-Louis Crouzet
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 10:21, Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: [snip] Flash plugin (whatever the version) is always the root cause of my Which version? (I run Sid.) Iceweasel lock_up (due to swapping or other...) the number do not really matte

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:23:05PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > i find that opera does ok if i start with a clean slate each time, i.e., no > tabs from former session. > I don't do sessions at all anyway (whatever they are), i.e. I always have a clean slate. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/12/08 09:02, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 04/11/08 19:54, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> [snip] >>> You would write a script that would pole the relavant data. Probably >> >> That's just *disgusting*. >> >> Or I'm a dirty old

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-12 Thread tom arnall
i find that opera does ok if i start with a clean slate each time, i.e., no tabs from former session. tom arnall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-12 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:04:23PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:10:04AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > Yes, the system does thrash, not a complete lockup. But, if you try to > move the cursor and few times with no results it certainly seem

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-12 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 19:54, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: [snip] You would write a script that would pole the relavant data. Probably That's just *disgusting*. Or I'm a dirty old man. Let me pole that for a sec... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Allums
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: >> After a fresh login I'll have about 40-50Mb used, 0 swap. After a few >> hours of FF2.x I'd be maxed on memory and pushing 2/3rds of my 256Mb of >> swap. Close FF and most of the memory and swap go awa

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 19:54, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: [snip] > > You would write a script that would pole the relavant data. Probably That's just *disgusting*. Or I'm a dirty old man. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA We want... a Shrubbery!! -BEG

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Marc Shapiro
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:10:04AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs whi

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 07:10:04AM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command > executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF > uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs which pops > up a warning

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:21:42PM +0200, Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: >> > >Thanks for this thread I thought I was alone with my Iceweasel issues... > >Basically I'm running Lenny with optimized kernel but still low memory > >configuration (512MB) on a Dell Pentium III. 512MB considered low-memory

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 10:21, Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: [snip] > Flash plugin (whatever the version) is always the root cause of my Which version? (I run Sid.) > Iceweasel lock_up (due to swapping or other...) the number do not really > matter but site such as

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Mumia W..
On 04/11/2008 09:10 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote: Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs which pops up a warning message. That way you k

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Jean-Louis Crouzet
Jean-Louis Crouzet wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:06, tom arnall wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Jean-Louis Crouzet
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:06, tom arnall wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all of a sudden browsers have

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Friday 11 April 2008 16:10:04 Marc Shapiro wrote: > Mumia W.. wrote: > Is there any way, instead of restricting a resource, to have a command > executed when a setpoint for a given resource is reached? Say, when FF > uses 200M of virtual memory, or over 30% of CPU, a job runs which pops > up a

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Marc Shapiro
Mumia W.. wrote: You can restrict FF to use a limited amount of memory. Although it would blow FF out of the water, you could do a "ulimit -Sv 20" before starting firefox. Do this in a script. If FF requires more than 200MB of virtual memory, the O/S will abort it spontaneously. Okay, I a

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/08 08:31, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 04/10/08 17:07, tom arnall wrote: >> [snip] >>> and what does CPU% look like? >> >> I know you asked this of Andy, but really the answer depends on the >> web site. Dynamic sites

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:07, tom arnall wrote: [snip] and what does CPU% look like? I know you asked this of Andy, but really the answer depends on the web site. Dynamic sites that love Flash and thousands of animated GIFs will use more

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Dominique Dumont
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What's npviewer? A "proxy" daemon that will load and run 32 bits flashplugin on behalf of your 64 bits browser. Wihtout it you cannot have flash on amd64 arch. HTH -- Dominique Dumont "Delivering successful solutions requires giving people what they

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-11 Thread Mumia W..
On 04/10/2008 10:24 PM, paragasu wrote: same thing happen to me. i am using debian sid. before i do dist-upgrade a week ago. i have the same problem. FF use 97% of the CPU after i open few tabs (my laptop using 256MB + Via C3 1G CPU).. especially when i watch youtube. i have to kill the process

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 19:11, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > > > system. > > > > I can. FF2.x was just

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread paragasu
same thing happen to me. i am using debian sid. before i do dist-upgrade a week ago. i have the same problem. FF use 97% of the CPU after i open few tabs (my laptop using 256MB + Via C3 1G CPU).. especially when i watch youtube. i have to kill the process manually from the terminal because FF stop

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:53PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > > system. > > I can. FF2.x was just painful on my laptop. It only has 256Mb and what > i used to be abl

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 02:45:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. Easy on my P-II, which is 32-bit (

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:06, tom arnall wrote: > On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: >> Thierry Chatelet wrote: >>> On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > all of a sudden browsers have becom

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 17:07, tom arnall wrote: [snip] > > and what does CPU% look like? I know you asked this of Andy, but really the answer depends on the web site. Dynamic sites that love Flash and thousands of animated GIFs will use more CPU than calmer si

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread andy
tom arnall wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've I do

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 10 April 2008 23:37:03 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 16:14, andy wrote: > > Thierry Chatelet wrote: > >> On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > >>>

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: > Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > >>> all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > >>> i've > >> > >> I don't see how a single proces

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 14:14, andy wrote: > Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > >>> all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > >>> i've > >> > >> I don't see how a single proces

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 16:14, andy wrote: > Thierry Chatelet wrote: >> On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: >>> all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i'

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread andy
Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit system. tried

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 13:25, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > > system. > > I can. FF2.x was just painful on my laptop. It only has 256Mb and > what i used to be able to do ju

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Thursday 10 April 2008 21:45:32 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > > i've > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. > > > tried iceweasel, opera, galeon. al

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Steve Lamb
On Thu, April 10, 2008 12:45 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. I can. FF2.x was just painful on my laptop. It only has 256Mb and what i used to be able to do just a few years ago (Firefox, Thunderbird and gaim ne pidgin al

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread tom arnall
On Thursday 10 April 2008 12:45, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). > > i've > > I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit > system. > > > tried iceweasel, opera, galeon. all

Re: browsers have become memory hogs

2008-04-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/10/08 14:35, tom arnall wrote: > all of a sudden browsers have become memory hogs on my system (>95%). i've I don't see how a single process could use 95% of memory on a 32-bit system. > tried iceweasel, opera, galeon. all with the same result