Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:05:20PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: [...] > > Hmmm. Sorry to be so unspecific. > > No prob. Everybody's happy now. I just have some data to copy over from the > old disk. At least it wasn't the hardware... In any case, g

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > Do you have an entry in /etc/hosts matching your actual IP to the content in > /etc/hostname when you observe this delay? Yup. I rely on the host files, so I keep then correct and accurate. -- Glenn English

Re: bewildering boot problem

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 12:45 PM, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Mon, October 5, 2015 12:53 pm, Glenn English wrote: >> Maybe it's hardware... It wasn't. A new install fixed everything. > Have you had a lightning storm in the area recently? Yeah. That's common in Colorado. > And is everything

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 11:53 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Hmm. Weird. I dimly remember that tcpwrappers did something > similar: to check the host name they sometimes tried a > reverse host lookup, which took its time when it failed. I've never seen or heard of anything like this -- the kernel comp

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Felix Miata
Glenn English composed on 2015-10-04 18:14 (UTC-0600): > I disabled XDM (sure is nice to have text config files) and rebooted. It > came up at a regular login prompt, and no error messages. startx took a > *very* long time -- said it couldn't find the hostname (something like > that) -- but it eve

Re: bewildering boot problem

2015-10-05 Thread rlharris
On Mon, October 5, 2015 12:53 pm, Glenn English wrote: > It seems to me that there's a networking problem, but > intermittent and from several directions. I don't understand it at all. > > Maybe it's hardware... Have you had a lightning storm in the area recently? And is everything connected to t

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 11:53:06AM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2015, at 1:04 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Then try "ssh @localhost". > > Works, kinda. It does the same thing to localhost or the hostname, from the > console or fro

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 1:04 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Then try "ssh @localhost". Works, kinda. It does the same thing to localhost or the hostname, from the console or from a terminal in XFCE. (I've got SSH running with keys around the local net(s) (no login required)). The MOTD comes up right

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 5, 2015, at 1:04 AM, wrote: > All those 30-ish seconds timeout and the error message you mention > above smell of something trying to resolve a host name, failing > and giving up (timeout). Yup. The timeouts do, anyway. The error messages from the kernel when I start XFCE never time ou

Re: bewildering boot problem -- a little more info

2015-10-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 06:14:44PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > I disabled XDM (sure is nice to have text config files) and rebooted. It came > up at a regular login prompt, and no error messages. startx took a *very* > long time -- said it couldn't

Re: bewildering boot problem

2015-10-04 Thread rlharris
In reply to Glenn English : Inasmuch as you are running Xfce, is there any particular reason for staying with Wheezy, which was the release which introduced the new Gnome? If not, the investment of two or three hours should have you up and running in Jessie. I have had opportunity to install Jes