Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, On Thu Nov 21, 2024 at 6:30 AM GMT, David Wright wrote: > But can I ask you why you stopped using f=f when you changed address. It wasn't a change of address, but a change of MUA or MUA config. I certainly had it enabled at some point with mutt, and I changed the way I used mutt (from mostly

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 19:01, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTM

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > > Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", > > > > which it seems

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 18:32:38 -0500, gene heskett wrote: > The =20 tells me its been converted to html style encoding some where. No, =20 is "quoted printable" encoding. It's extremely common for email; it can be used whenever the source content is HTML or plain text or a calendar invitation o

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 10:00, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no traili

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 10:11:56 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > This line has one

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Nov 2024 at 14:38:02 (-0500), eben wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:46, eben wrote: > > On 11/21/24 11:07, eben wrote: > >> On 11/20/24 10:13, eben wrote: > >> > >>> Just for kicks: > >>> This line has no trailing spaces. > >>> This line has one trailing space. > >>> This line has two trailing spa

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:46, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: >> >>> Just for kicks: >>> This line has no trailing spaces. >>> This line has one trailing space. >>> This line has two trailing spaces. >> >> OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" fr

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:46:01 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with a space. It is wrapped on my end. > >This is a long line that is more than seventy-two characters that >should end with two spaces. It is al

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: > >> Just for kicks: >> This line has no trailing spaces. >> This line has one trailing space. >> This line has two trailing spaces. > > OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it > makes a di

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Nov 2024 11:07:07 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >This line has no trailing spaces. >This line has one trailing space. >This line has two trailing spaces. No trailing spaces anywhere. Sorry. :-( -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/21/24 11:07, e...@gmx.us wrote: OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false.  Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. Narrator: It did not.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:13, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. OK, I changed "mail.html_compose" from true to false. Now to see if it makes a difference: This line has no trailing spaces. This line

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread tomas
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:00:11AM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: > > On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/11/2024 10:11, Max Nikulin wrote: Eben, you may try to inspect sources of your messages ([Ctrl+U]) from sent and draft folders. Interesting, signature separator is lost by gmane, see w3m -m 'nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.linux.debian.user/622024' however it is present in USENET group and w

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 15:31, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing s

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread John Crawley
On 21/11/2024 15:10, gene heskett wrote: That doesn't affect the dozens of miss-configured email agents here that violate those SOP's for text emails. My mail filter for debian-user seems to be working OK, everything sent to the right place. Maybe it's because I have fewer filters than you (3

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-21 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 23:46, John Crawley wrote: On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listserver. You should see it incoming but no

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 15:32:47 (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? > > I'm afraid not. Looking at your

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/21/24 01:10, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 23:46, John Crawley wrote: On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listse

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread John Crawley
On 21/11/2024 05:31, gene heskett wrote: Which is what I am sending from latest t-bird in what I think is plain text, as below, and it works, my too long comment is not greyed out in the incoming echo from the listserver. You should see it incoming but not in a reply you make that quotes my ms

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 12:08, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: >>> Does anyone using Thunderbird _not_ get trailing spaces stripped, >>> or is it just me? >> >> I don't (see signature below), but it may be worth noting that I

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/11/2024 22:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, eben wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed This line has one trailing space. [...] This line has two leading and two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 20 Nov 2024 at 11:35:28 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > So, naturally you use an editor to compose your posts. > > Not sure why you would assume that, but let's run with it. How would I > configure Tbird do do such a thing? I see no relevant settings for "editor" > or "path" but maybe they're

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 15:16, gene heskett wrote: On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread gene heskett
On 11/20/24 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of th

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:08:02 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: > Anyone know how to > get a pure text version, if such a thing exists? Possibly storing one's emails in maildir format. Each email is its own raw text file. Suitable grepping or use of mairix or the like should then locate particular messages

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:08:02PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing > > > > HTML email, and

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 11:37, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing spaces being lost during that translation.

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: Just for kicks: This line has no trailing spaces. This line has one trailing space. This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. D

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 09:49:58AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 10:49, David Wright wrote: On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves you as "-- ", which it seems to be based on your attached image, I'm not sure what's happening. I guess u

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-11-20 at 11:24, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/20/24 10:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> If I had to guess, I would guess that Thunderbird is composing >> HTML email, and then translating it to plain text, with trailing >> spaces being lost during that translation. Including the trailing >> space

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread David Wright
On Tue 19 Nov 2024 at 19:41:25 (-0500), eben@… wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 eben@… wrote: > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:13:20 -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > Just for kicks: > This line has no trailing spaces. > This line has one trailing space. > This line has two trailing spaces. In the message I received, none of these lines have any trailing spaces. If I had to guess, I would guess that

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-20 Thread eben
On 11/20/24 00:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachme

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
Response below/inline for email e...@gmx.us wrote: > (original email sent 19 Nov 2024 at 10:02) > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? Your post/email comes through without the space after t

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread tomas
On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 07:41:25PM -0500, e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 > > e...@gmx.us wrote: > > > > Hello e...@gmx.us, > > > > > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > > > attachment. This mess

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread eben
On 11/19/24 10:31, Brad Rogers wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I see what Jonathan sees. Your sig separ

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Markus Schönhaber
19.11.24, 16:02 +0100 e...@gmx.us: > On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: >>> -- >> >> Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with >> a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may n

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Nov 19, 2024 at 3:02 PM GMT, eben wrote: > That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k > attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I'm afraid not. Looking at your message source, I see Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:02:59 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: Hello e...@gmx.us, >That is what I see in the message to which you replied. See the <1k >attachment. This message also has a space. Is that not what you see? I see what Jonathan sees. Your sig separator arrives here as "--". If it leaves

Re: mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread eben
On 11/19/24 05:19, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Hi, On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: -- Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may not recognise your signature as such. That is what I

mail sig separator (was Re: BD backup?)

2024-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, On Sun Nov 17, 2024 at 7:05 PM GMT, eben wrote: > -- Just to point out that the mail signature separator is '-- ', i.e. with a suffixed ' ' character. Without it, Mail User Agent programs may not recognise your signature as such. -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowla

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-18 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 7:54 PM Timothy M Butterworth < timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 6:22 PM wrote: > >> On 11/16/24 18:31, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: >> > >> > note that vlc on debian reads and play BlueRay disks just fine :) (just >> be >> > sure sure

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-17 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 6:22 PM wrote: > On 11/16/24 18:31, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: > > > > note that vlc on debian reads and play BlueRay disks just fine :) (just > be > > sure sure that libluray is installed) > > I have libbluray-2. However it says "NB: Most commercial Blu-Ray are > rest

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-17 Thread eben
On 11/16/24 18:31, Jean-François Bachelet wrote: note that vlc on debian reads and play BlueRay disks just fine :) (just be sure sure that libluray is installed) I have libbluray-2. However it says "NB: Most commercial Blu-Ray are restricted by AACS or BD+ technologies and this library is not

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-16 Thread eben
On 11/16/24 12:47, Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, Am 16.11.2024 um 18:36 schrieb Eben King: My wife bought a Blu-ray disk at a library sale, and now I need to transcode its contents and stick them on the media server so we can watch it. So, I did the naïve thing and tried to read it using Handbrake 1

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-16 Thread eben
On 11/16/24 17:21, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 5:07 PM Arno Lehmann wrote: Hi, Am 16.11.2024 um 18:36 schrieb Eben King: My wife bought a Blu-ray disk at a library sale, and now I need to transcode its contents and stick them on the media server so we can watch it.

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/11/2024 05:37, e...@gmx.us wrote: > eben@cerberus:~$ vlc /dev/sr0 > VLC media player 3.0.21 Vetinari (revision 3.0.21-0-gdd8bfdbabe8) > keydbcfg.c:701: No valid AACS configuration files found > aacs.c:121: No usable AACS libraries found! > dec.c:197: aacs_open() failed: -2! > bdj.c:61

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-16 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
hello :) Le 16/11/2024 à 18:47, Arno Lehmann a écrit : Hi, Am 16.11.2024 um 18:36 schrieb Eben King: My wife bought a Blu-ray disk at a library sale, and now I need to transcode its contents and stick them on the media server so we can watch it. So, I did the naïve thing and tried to read i

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-16 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 5:07 PM Arno Lehmann wrote: > Hi, > > Am 16.11.2024 um 18:36 schrieb Eben King: > > My wife bought a Blu-ray disk at a library sale, and now I need to > > transcode > > its contents and stick them on the media server so we can watch it. So, > I > > did the naïve thing and

Re: BD backup?

2024-11-16 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi, Am 16.11.2024 um 18:36 schrieb Eben King: My wife bought a Blu-ray disk at a library sale, and now I need to transcode its contents and stick them on the media server so we can watch it.  So, I did the naïve thing and tried to read it using Handbrake 1.6.1.  It read titles 23 (5:00) and 25

Re: bd

2016-12-29 Thread caleb wekesa
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Re: bd

2016-12-29 Thread caleb wekesa
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Re: BD-R and wheezy

2014-04-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Kevin Price: > Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy? Assuming that the drive is at /dev/sr0 and offers rw-permission xorriso -as cdrecord -v dev=/dev/sr0 your_image.iso If you have more than one drive, get an overview (as superuser) by xorriso -devices If you want slow Defect M

Re: BD-R and wheezy

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Neyhart
On 04/09/2014 02:32 PM, Kevin Price wrote: > Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy? I met a guy at a LUG that wanted > to try linux but he lives out in the middle of nowhere and has 56k. Since I > have cable, I downloaded the Blu Ray images using jigdo. I am having a lot of > trouble burni

Re: BD-R and wheezy

2014-04-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/04/14 08:32, Kevin Price wrote: > Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy? Yes. Several. And much fine documentation on the subject. > I met a guy at a LUG > that wanted to try linux but he lives out in the middle of nowhere > and has 56k. Since I have cable, I downloaded the Blu Ray i

Re: BD-R and wheezy

2014-04-09 Thread Kevin Price
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 11:05:42PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 06:32:01PM -0400, Kevin Price wrote: > > Is there an easy way to burn BD-R on wheezy? I met a guy at a LUG that > > wanted to try linux but he lives out in the middle of nowhere and has 56k. > > Since I h

Re: BD-RE - can't create UDF on new disc

2012-08-20 Thread Ken Dawson
At the risk of repeating myself, if you wish to examine the running kernel, you might benefit from Systemtap (http://sourceware.org/systemtap/). /ken On 08/19/2012 10:51 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gary Dale wrote: >>>dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sr0 bs=2048 count=11826176 >> This also fa

Re: BD-RE - can't create UDF on new disc

2012-08-19 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gary Dale wrote: > >dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sr0 bs=2048 count=11826176 > This also fails when booting from sysrecuecd with the same read-only error. That kills my theory that there went something wrong in the operating system. Now i am out of ideas, except diviing into kernel debugging i

Re: BD-RE - can't create UDF on new disc

2012-08-19 Thread Gary Dale
On 19/08/12 02:47 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sr0 bs=2048 count=11826176 This also fails when booting from sysrecuecd with the same read-only error. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: [Bulk] Re: BD-RE - can't create UDF on new disc

2012-08-19 Thread Gary Dale
On 19/08/12 09:02 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Mike Scheutzow wrote: do you think that this user could be having the well-known "udev polls the dvd" problem? That can cause a block device to appear to be read-only. Well if it does cause such effects then it is surely worth a try to disable it

Re: BD-RE - can't create UDF on new disc

2012-08-18 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gary Dale wrote: > dvd+rw-format -format /dev/sr0 > * BD/DVD±RW/-RAM format utility by , version 7.1. > * 25.0GB BD media detected. > * formatting 59.5% > root@transponder:/home/garydale# mkudffs /dev/sr0 > Error opening device: Read-only file system > [...] > dvd+rw-format -format /dev/sr0 >

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I did another test using system rescue cd. While it gives me the same error > when I run dvd+rw-format, I note that mkudffs complains about multiple > extents. I don't know why it gives a different message under system rescue > cd than under Debian/Wheezy but I thought it might be a clue as

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 10/08/12 12:46 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 10/08/12 10:33 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i can reproduce the symptoms by a read-only situation of drive and media. (It should not happen with BD-RE in a BD writer, of course.) open_sr0.c with O_NDELAY yielded: open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 write: ret= 20

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 10/08/12 10:33 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i can reproduce the symptoms by a read-only situation of drive and media. (It should not happen with BD-RE in a BD writer, of course.) open_sr0.c with O_NDELAY yielded: open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0 I get the same behavior w

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i can reproduce the symptoms by a read-only situation of drive and media. (It should not happen with BD-RE in a BD writer, of course.) open_sr0.c with O_NDELAY yielded: > open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 > write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0 I get the same behavior when i put a DVD into a DVD-ROM drive. It al

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I'm wondering if the problem is the iso9660 file system that K3B put onto > the disc? I seriously doubt. At least dd should have no scruples to overwrite any filesystem. The block device driver has no idea of filesystems. The only connection would be open(2) flag O_EXCL. mount uses it to

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 10/08/12 05:23 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, -fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR); +fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR | O_NDELAY); open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0 This explains why xorriso or dvd+rw-format can open the drive device file. (The failure to re-format is a diffe

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > > -fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR); > > +fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR | O_NDELAY); > open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 > write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0 This explains why xorriso or dvd+rw-format can open the drive device file. (The failure to re-format is a different problem.) > No one in Debian

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 10/08/12 01:50 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR); root@transponder:/home/garydale# ./open_sr0 open: fd= -1 , errno= 30 open: Read-only file system This is surprising, because xorriso uses open(..., O_RDWR | O_NDELAY); when it acquires a drive. (I would have

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > > fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR); > root@transponder:/home/garydale# ./open_sr0 > open: fd= -1 , errno= 30 > open: Read-only file system This is surprising, because xorriso uses open(..., O_RDWR | O_NDELAY); when it acquires a drive. (I would have expected to see the error with write()

Re: [Bulk] Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 04:36 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, # xorriso -scsi_log on -dev /dev/sr0 -format "full" ... xorriso : FAILURE : libburn indicates failure with formatting. It should have reported the SCSI error (will have to dig for that). That error came with command FORMAT UNIT FORMAT UNIT 04

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > # xorriso -scsi_log on -dev /dev/sr0 -format "full" > ... > xorriso : FAILURE : libburn indicates failure with formatting. It should have reported the SCSI error (will have to dig for that). That error came with command FORMAT UNIT > FORMAT UNIT > 04 11 00 00 00 00 > To drive: 12b > 00 82

Re: [Bulk] Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 02:39 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, I also tried using K3B to burn as udf. mkisofs print size result: 0 (0 bytes) This looks like a different problem. A size prediction of 0 is hardly to explain by any state of the target medium. How large should the result have been ? 59M or there

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 01:45 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Yes, I have read-write permissions. Something does not work properly. Are any related messages to see in the output of dmesg ? Nothing in dmesg | tail or syslog just now when I tried a dvd+rw-format -force=full. I tried xorriso to fix the

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 01:46 PM, Keith McKenzie wrote: On 9 August 2012 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: On 09/08/12 01:19 PM, Keith McKenzie wrote: On 9 August 2012 17:43, Gary Dale wrote: Already tried that. dd complains: dd: opening `/dev/sr0': Read-only file system It sounds like it is mounted; try

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I also tried using K3B to burn as udf. > mkisofs print size result: 0 (0 bytes) This looks like a different problem. A size prediction of 0 is hardly to explain by any state of the target medium. How large should the result have been ? What do you get from xorriso -outdev /dev/sr0 -bla

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > Yes, I have read-write permissions. Something does not work properly. Are any related messages to see in the output of dmesg ? > I tried xorriso to fix the disc as well but it also fails. What did you try and what did it report when it failed ? (We could get a log of SCSI commands from x

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 9 August 2012 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: > On 09/08/12 01:19 PM, Keith McKenzie wrote: >> >> On 9 August 2012 17:43, Gary Dale wrote: >>> >>> >>> Already tried that. dd complains: >>>dd: opening `/dev/sr0': Read-only file system >>> >> It sounds like it is mounted; try unmounting it,& then t

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 12:08 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, [i am subscribed to cdwr...@other.debian.org, not to debian-user] You could use sequential burn programs like growisofs or xorriso. Both can add files to ISO 9660 filesystems on BD-RE. Those filesystems are mountable read-only. If you canafford t

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 01:19 PM, Keith McKenzie wrote: On 9 August 2012 17:43, Gary Dale wrote: Already tried that. dd complains: dd: opening `/dev/sr0': Read-only file system It sounds like it is mounted; try unmounting it,& then try dd again. root@transponder:/home/garydale# umount /dev/sr0 umo

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Keith McKenzie
On 9 August 2012 17:43, Gary Dale wrote: > > > Already tried that. dd complains: > dd: opening `/dev/sr0': Read-only file system > It sounds like it is mounted; try unmounting it, & then try dd again. -- Sent from FOSS (Free Open Source Software) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/12 12:08 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, [i am subscribed to cdwr...@other.debian.org, not to debian-user] I tried a new disc again, and this time formatted it through K3B instead of using dvd+rw-format directly. I don't know what K3B does as "formatting", but dvd+rw-format does only a

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, [i am subscribed to cdwr...@other.debian.org, not to debian-user] > > >I tried a new disc again, and this time formatted it through K3B > > >instead of using dvd+rw-format directly. I don't know what K3B does as "formatting", but dvd+rw-format does only a hardware level formatting. It does n

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Chris Bannister
[Ccing cdwr...@other.debian.org] Any ideas? On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 03:49:13PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 06/08/12 11:51 PM, Gary Dale wrote: > >I've been using BD-RE discs for backups on a Debian/Squeeze server > >for a couple of years now. In the last week or so the backups have > >been faili

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 11:51:36PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm using Memorex BD-RE 2x discs. I've used an LG, ASUS and Pioneer > BluRay writer - the first two on the older machine. The ASUS and > Pioneer are brand new writers. > > Any ideas? Have you tried different media? Also a quick google

Re: BD-RE mount problem

2012-08-07 Thread Gary Dale
On 06/08/12 11:51 PM, Gary Dale wrote: I've been using BD-RE discs for backups on a Debian/Squeeze server for a couple of years now. In the last week or so the backups have been failing. I haven't modified my backup script so I thought about possible hardware issues. - I tried changing the Bl

Re: BD-R not getting finalized

2012-05-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:37:10PM +0100, Bhasker C V wrote: > Hi all, > > This is the second BD-R where growisofs fails during the last stage of > finalizing the disk > I am using a USB external writer but I do not see any USB related > errors in the kernel. > > The end snippet is below > >

Re: BD-R not getting finalized

2012-05-22 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday 21 May 2012 23:37:10 Bhasker C V wrote: > :-[ CLOSE SESSION failed with SK=5h/INVALID FIELD IN CDB]: Input/output > > error > /dev/sr1: reloading tray > > I am not trying to rule out a possibility of error in the BD-R media but > 2 in a row is something which makes me suspect factors ot