Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Tom Vier
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 03:21:02AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > i say keep it simple ... use find and tar gnu tar does incremental backups. use -g (and -M for multiple tapes). -- Tom Vier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DSA Key ID 0x15741ECE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Glenn Meehan
On Sun, 2004-04-25 at 20:12, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > (Recently) there was a discussion about it. `mondoarchive“ and cdbackup > or similar were suggested. apt-cache search backup will give you a > bunch of options. I used mondoarchive to do a complete backup to cd of my system. Seemed to work

Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004, Deboo wrote: >What is the best way to backup on linux, with a 250M zip drive? I >have tried many backup programs but I wish to have something >semi-automatic kind of thing. I have used ibackup, bu (script), >kbackup, floppybackup, and few others but am not sat

Re: Backup Strategies for linux?

2004-04-25 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 02:14:38PM +0530, Deboo wrote: >What is the best way to backup on linux, with a 250M zip drive? I >have tried many backup programs but I wish to have something >semi-automatic kind of thing. I have used ibackup, bu (script), >kbackup, floppybackup, and few ot

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Tuesday, May 1, Alvin Oga did write: > > hi osamu... > > coolthat your script goes to cdr ... > ( looks like a manually run backup script due to "yn" question > > but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing > up "user defined" system config changes in /usr/local,

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya keith when i work on a backup system - i assume your primary machine yu are backing up lost its disks - i assume the backup disk can also lose its disk... - disk failures etc is easy to simulate... - just pull the cable off the disk... and see the panic and can

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Alvin Oga wrote: > > hi ya > > I'd use disk as backups... if i was starting from scratch > - nothing need be done...unlike tapes that requires regular > possibly daily interaction ) > Are you not concerned that your disk controller will go wacky, fubarring both drives? I'd be in

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:10:52PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Used tape is not expensive. 8-12 GB units are available on eBay for < > US$100. Tape is cheap and reusable. I assume you mean some SCSI tape drives as that cheap. If it is so cheap, I should think about it when 640MB became no

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-02 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya I'd use disk as backups... if i was starting from scratch - nothing need be done...unlike tapes that requires regular possibly daily interaction ) 20Gb disks are about $100 now... and can hold 2-3 months of daily/weekly incremental backups before you have to

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-02 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:47:00PM -0700, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:11:25PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > The cd solution probably has an advantage, since I could use the cd-writer > > > for other cd-writing too. > > > > http://kmself.home.netcom.

Re: backup strategies - true

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi osamu... On Tue, 1 May 2001, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 06:04:13PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > > but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing > > It's a hack. Do not expect to solve everything. yup... thats teh fun of it all... nothing will ever solve ever

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ha morgan... i think the first tar creates ROOT$date.tar.gz... and think it backup /home too since its not excluded ?? ( which should ignore itself... as you're referring unless /home is a link to go somewhere else the second tar command is not needed ?? the

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 06:04:13PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing It's a hack. Do not expect to solve everything. If you need incremental use -N option or something. (Read info tar) (Please do not quote everything, some people are from

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 07:13:59PM -0600, Morgan Terry wrote: > Alvin Oga wrote: > [...] > > i think $cdtemp should be in /tmp or /usr/tmp so that the temporary backup > > files /home/ftp/cdrimage/ROOT$date.tar.gz does not backup also into > > /home/ftp/cdrimage/HOME$date.tar.gz and a partial copy

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Morgan Terry
Alvin Oga wrote: [...] > i think $cdtemp should be in /tmp or /usr/tmp so that the temporary backup > files /home/ftp/cdrimage/ROOT$date.tar.gz does not backup also into > /home/ftp/cdrimage/HOME$date.tar.gz and a partial copy of itself too ?? [...] Actually, tar (GNU tar at least) is smart enough

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi osamu... coolthat your script goes to cdr ... ( looks like a manually run backup script due to "yn" question but its not a full nor incremental backup since its not backing up "user defined" system config changes in /usr/local, /usr/lib ?? - good and bad idea... but yet another o

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 04:11:25PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > The cd solution probably has an advantage, since I could use the cd-writer > > for other cd-writing too. > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html Tape is GOOD thing if you have money. For work, this is the

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 01:01:11PM +0200, Jeroen Valcke (jeroen@valcke.com) wrote: > Hello, > > After the not so pleasant adventures of last night (see my previous mail > "unattached inode") I started realizing that instead of my root fs the > problems could have occured on my home partition, des

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Jens Gecius
Jeroen Valcke writes: > After the not so pleasant adventures of last night (see my previous mail > "unattached inode") I started realizing that instead of my root fs the > problems could have occured on my home partition, destroying valuable > data. I must admit I don't make backups on a regular

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread Alvin Oga
hi jeroen backups... i prefer find and tar eg... find /root /etc /home -mtime -$Days -type f -print | egrep -v "$EXCLUDE_this_stuff" | tar zcvf /Backup.Sunday/$HOST/$Year_$Mon/$Date_$Days.tgz -T - use find to find files that has changed "today" or last 7 days or last

Re: backup strategies

2001-05-01 Thread punt45ACP
You mentioned a Windoze-PC, sh I'd suggest you make a separate partition on that one and do a "tar zcvf" to that partition. RAR for Linux might be an option as well... It's faster than using a CD-RW and, for once, you'll make proper use of your windoze-machine ;-) Jeroen Valcke wrote: > > Hel