Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-15 18:45, Rob Owens wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:37:31AM +0200, Clive McBarton wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Anyway, the cron-apt package does what you want. It is recommended, though, to use it only for downloads. It does help the OP since he uses apt-get, but what about the peop

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-15 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 03:07:31AM +0200, thib wrote: > Chris Hiestand wrote: >> On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >>> On 2010-04-07 13:52, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: [snip] >>> That's a foolish thing to do, since blind acceptance can lead to a broken >>> system. >> >> Maybe so, but

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-15 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:37:31AM +0200, Clive McBarton wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Anyway, the cron-apt package does what you want. It is recommended, > > though, to use it only for downloads. > > It does help the OP since he uses apt-get, but what about the people who > normally use aptitu

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 07:43:29PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:09:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sat,10.Apr.10, 11:38:08, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > > > It doesn't matter. Mixing apt-get and aptitude is not a problem anymore. >

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 18:41:15, Clive McBarton wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > It doesn't matter. Mixing apt-get and aptitude is not a problem anymore. > > I believe that this is not complelely true. What is true is that, on the > command line, in interactive mode, you can use either and it wi

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,10.Apr.10, 08:51:16, Clive McBarton wrote: > >> Certainly so. What I meant to ask is what to do if you (like the OP) >> want automatic upgrades (downloaded and installed without the admin >> present) but (unlike the OP)

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
Thanks. thib wrote: > Was. > > The only thing to keep in mind is that aptitude keeps an internal > state; a sort of staging state that you work on while using the > ncurses UI. It only "clears" it on demand or when you "commit" your > changes, thus you can close and re-open a session without los

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread thib
Merciadri Luca wrote: Osamu Aoki wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:09:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: I guess this was the big headach http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411123 _was_ or _is still_? Was. The only thing to keep in mind is that aptitude keeps an internal sta

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:09:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > I guess this was the big headach > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=411123 > > > > _was_ or _is still_? -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I us

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 01:09:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,10.Apr.10, 11:38:08, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > It doesn't matter. Mixing apt-get and aptitude is not a problem anymore. > > > > > Sure? How can you state this? Any proof? I always thought t

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
Okay. Thanks for these precisions. Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,10.Apr.10, 11:38:08, Merciadri Luca wrote: > > > I'm not sure what I can do to prove that something doesn't exist. I > could for example post the console output of: > > # apt-get update > # apt-get upgrade > # aptitude safe-upgr

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 11:38:08, Merciadri Luca wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > It doesn't matter. Mixing apt-get and aptitude is not a problem anymore. > > > Sure? How can you state this? Any proof? I always thought that they were > incompatible. I'm not sure what I can do to prove that some

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,10.Apr.10, 08:51:16, Clive McBarton wrote: > > > > It doesn't matter. Mixing apt-get and aptitude is not a problem anymore. > Sure? How can you state this? Any proof? I always thought that they were incompatible. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.mont

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 08:51:16, Clive McBarton wrote: > Certainly so. What I meant to ask is what to do if you (like the OP) > want automatic upgrades (downloaded and installed without the admin > present) but (unlike the OP) only use aptitude and never apt-get. It doesn't matter. Mixing apt-get and

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-09 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Clive writes: >> It does help the OP since he uses apt-get, but what about the people >> who normally use aptitude? > > If you are only using it for downloads (usual) it doesn't matter. Certainly so. What I meant to ask is what t

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-09 Thread thib
Chris Hiestand wrote: On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-04-07 13:52, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: [snip] That's a foolish thing to do, since blind acceptance can lead to a broken system. Maybe so, but I've been using automatic upgrades for the last 2-3 years on many stable sy

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-09 Thread John Hasler
Clive writes: > It does help the OP since he uses apt-get, but what about the people > who normally use aptitude? If you are only using it for downloads (usual) it doesn't matter. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-09 Thread Clive McBarton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > Anyway, the cron-apt package does what you want. It is recommended, > though, to use it only for downloads. It does help the OP since he uses apt-get, but what about the people who normally use aptitude? There's no "cron-aptitude

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-08 Thread Chris Hiestand
On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:27 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-04-07 13:52, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: >> how do you automate the updates in Lenny? [if you're using it as a >> "desktop os", and you don't want to give: apt-get update; apt-get >> upgrade -y every week..]? > > That's a foolish thing to do, sin

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-07 Thread thib
Yet another solution: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/unattended-upgrades -thib -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bbcf698.5080...@stammed.net

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-07 Thread Constantine
On Wednesday 07 April 2010 22:52:34 Jozsi Vadkan wrote: > how do you automate the updates in Lenny? [if you're using it as a > "desktop os", and you don't want to give: apt-get update; apt-get > upgrade -y every week..]? > > i'm using this: > > > > #!/bin/bash > > RANDOMTIME=$(echo $[ ($RANDOM

Re: automate updates in Lenny

2010-04-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2010-04-07 13:52, Jozsi Vadkan wrote: how do you automate the updates in Lenny? [if you're using it as a "desktop os", and you don't want to give: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade -y every week..]? That's a foolish thing to do, since blind acceptance can lead to a broken system. Anyway, th