Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-11 Thread Richard Hector
On 08/09/13 09:38, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > For a P4, which is extremely unlikely to get > any further microcode updates (unlikely but not impossible, as there are > "embedded" P4 parts that have a 10-year support life and might still get an > update for whatever reason), I guess the N

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Joel Rees wrote: >> I was hoping that AMD was not going to have the license and >> non-visibility issue that plagues the Intel processor microcode >> updates. But I find this original announcement from when

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
(Thanks for obliging, Henrik. ;-) On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 08:00:12AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> (1) This requires enabling two repositories that I have been avoiding >> enabling, contrib and non-free. That means I have to watch the >> reposi

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 9/09/2013 2:18 AM, Volker Birk wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 12:55:05PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> Note that even the internal errata/fix information is bound to be really >> uninteresting anyway. Backdoors would not be documented anywhere, heck, it >> is very likely that o

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Joel Rees wrote: > I was hoping that AMD was not going to have the license and > non-visibility issue that plagues the Intel processor microcode > updates. But I find this original announcement from when Henrique made > the updater tool available: > > http://lists.debian.org/d

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > or synaptic to look for new tools, right? Or can we just enable those > > two repositories long enough to load Henrique's tool and the microcode > > updates, then disable them again? > > Why do you feel that you even need to ask? You are free to handl

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 08:00:12AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > (1) This requires enabling two repositories that I have been avoiding > enabling, contrib and non-free. That means I have to watch the > repository more carefully when using > > apt-cache search > > or synaptic to look for new tools

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-08 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2013-09-07 18:55 -0300]: > On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > * Elimar Riesebieter [2013-09-07 15:32 +0200]: > > > ACK, loaded as module. Thanks for the hint. But I can't find a note > > > on how to verify the new microcode is loaded? > > > > $ dme

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2013 07 Sep 16:40 -0500, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I have an older P4 system with hyperthreading and it seems the updated > > microcode was loaded when I installed the package: > > It was loaded, but the messages you sent do not imply a

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, shirish शिरीष wrote: > microcode bundle 1: /lib/firmware/intel-ucode/06-17-0a > 01/001: sig 0x0001067a, pf mask 0xa0, 2010-09-28, rev 0x0a0b, size 8192 > 01/002: sig 0x0001067a, pf mask 0x11, 2010-09-28, rev 0x0a0b, size 8192 > 01/003: sig 0x0001067a, pf mask 0x44, 2010-0

Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-07 Thread Joel Rees
(I kind of hope this starts a flame war large enough to embarrass the corporate culprits into behaving themselves about this. Apologies in advance when I step on toes.) I was hoping that AMD was not going to have the license and non-visibility issue that plagues the Intel processor microcode updat

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread shirish शिरीष
in-line :- On 9/8/13, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, shirish शिरीष wrote: >> I also read the README.gz and realized it's kinda pointless till Intel >> starts distributing some sort of errata and changelog information > > They do distribute some information, but only to

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Elimar Riesebieter [2013-09-07 15:32 +0200]: > > ACK, loaded as module. Thanks for the hint. But I can't find a note > > on how to verify the new microcode is loaded? > > $ dmesg | grep micro > microcode: CPU0 sig=0x10676, pf=0x80, revision=0x610

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, shirish शिरीष wrote: > I also read the README.gz and realized it's kinda pointless till Intel > starts distributing some sort of errata and changelog information They do distribute some information, but only to Intel hardware partners which have access to microcode updates dir

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, Nate Bargmann wrote: > I have an older P4 system with hyperthreading and it seems the updated > microcode was loaded when I installed the package: It was loaded, but the messages you sent do not imply an update took place. Check for microcode messages with "updated". If you f

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :- On 9/7/13, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, shirish शिरीष wrote: >> Would installing the intel processor microcode package and the >> icu-tools have any benefit to me ? >> >> cpuid -1 | grep 'Intel Pentium' >> family = Intel Pentium Pro/II/III

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
I have an older P4 system with hyperthreading and it seems the updated microcode was loaded when I installed the package: Sep 7 08:29:23 kernel: [1268878.007882] platform microcode: firmware: agent loaded intel-ucode/0f-04-01 into memory Sep 7 08:29:23 kernel: [1268878.007943] platform microcode

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Elimar Riesebieter [2013-09-07 15:32 +0200]: > ACK, loaded as module. Thanks for the hint. But I can't find a note > on how to verify the new microcode is loaded? $ dmesg | grep micro microcode: CPU0 sig=0x10676, pf=0x80, revision=0x610 microcode: CPU1 sig=0x10676, pf=0x80, revision=0x610 micr

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2013-09-07 09:13 -0300]: > > * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2013-09-03 09:05 -0300]: [...] > The two easy ways are: either you start using initramfs, or you > need to make sure the microcode driver is a module (it is a module in the > standard Debian kernel), and t

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2013-09-03 09:05 -0300]: > > You must also update the initramfs so that the processor microcode will be > > updated after a reboot/power off. The packages will try to do it > > automatically for the running kernel and

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, shirish शिरीष wrote: > Would installing the intel processor microcode package and the > icu-tools have any benefit to me ? > > cpuid -1 | grep 'Intel Pentium' > family = Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/Celeron/Core/Core > 2/Atom, AMD Athlon/Duron, Cyrix M2, VIA C3 (6)

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-06 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [2013-09-03 09:05 -0300]: [...] > You must also update the initramfs so that the processor microcode will be > updated after a reboot/power off. The packages will try to do it > automatically for the running kernel and that should be enough for most > users. > > Ho

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-06 Thread shirish शिरीष
Dear Henrique de Moraes Holschuh and all, Sorry for being late to the party. I installed Debian about a month ago. Would installing the intel processor microcode package and the icu-tools have any benefit to me ? cpuid -1 | grep 'Intel Pentium' family = Intel Pentium Pro/II/III/C

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013, David Guntner wrote: > used because of the scale of how many CPUs are affected. It's > "non-free" in the sense that they hold patents, etc., on the code that > restrict how you can use it and so on. It is non-free because of the license attached to the microcode distribution,

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-04 Thread David Guntner
Carlo grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > Hi Verde Denim, I like to think with free software, I saw that it is a > non-free, can we trust of it ? Or this isn't againt debian free software > guidelines? Why Intel doesn't give a free microcode??? Please don't top post in a E-Mail reply, *especially* on

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-04 Thread Verde Denim
On 09/03/2013 08:42 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2013-09-03 16:20:56 -0700, David Christensen wrote: >> On 09/03/13 05:05, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >>> THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS ONLY RELEVANT TO SYSTEMS THAT HAVE INTEL >>> MICROPROCESSORS. >> Please provide a URL to the intel.com web page t

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-04 Thread Carlo
Hi Verde Denim, I like to think with free software, I saw that it is a non-free, can we trust of it ? Or this isn't againt debian free software guidelines? Why Intel doesn't give a free microcode??? thanks. Carlo. 2013/9/4 Verde Denim > On 09/03/2013 08:42 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 20

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-09-04 08:49:47 +0700, Rick Valenzuela wrote: > On 09/04/2013 07:42 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > "apt-get changelog intel-microcode" leads you to: > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/intel/+bug/1212497 > > > > which provides the URL to the intel.com web page: > > > > https://download

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-03 Thread Rick Valenzuela
On 09/04/2013 07:42 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > "apt-get changelog intel-microcode" leads you to: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/intel/+bug/1212497 > > which provides the URL to the intel.com web page: > > https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=23082 There's also

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-03 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-09-03 16:20:56 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 09/03/13 05:05, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS ONLY RELEVANT TO SYSTEMS THAT HAVE INTEL > >MICROPROCESSORS. > > Please provide a URL to the intel.com web page that tells us about the > microcode update. "apt-g

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-03 Thread David Christensen
On 09/03/13 05:05, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: THIS ANNOUNCEMENT IS ONLY RELEVANT TO SYSTEMS THAT HAVE INTEL MICROPROCESSORS. Please provide a URL to the intel.com web page that tells us about the microcode update. TIA, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update

2013-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Alternatively, you can install the packages manually. To get the updated > packages directly, please install the current "intel-microcode" and > "iucode-tool" packages normally, then download and install the updated > "intel-microcode" pack

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > So I'm left assuming that this initiative is the result of more and more > Debian users purchasing systems sufficiently new enough that errata are > being discovered, and new microcode being issued, after they receive > their systems, and these folks aren

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/6/2012 10:08 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > What I do know is that lack of microcode update support is a severe issue > IMO. Debian has survived and functioned very well with good stability, all the while lacking microcode update capability for all these years. This doesn't seem

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:12:53PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > >I would like to bring to your attention the improved support for system > >processor (CPU) microcode updates, for x86/i686/x86-64/amd64 systems > >that was recently added to [

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:12:53PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Microcode updates will be applied immediately when the microcode > > packages are installed or updated: you don't have to reboot. You will > > have to keep the packages instal

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:12:53PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: I would like to bring to your attention the improved support for system processor (CPU) microcode updates, for x86/i686/x86-64/amd64 systems that was recently added to [non-free] Wheezy. Alas, this will not work for XE

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:12:53PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Microcode updates will be applied immediately when the microcode > packages are installed or updated: you don't have to reboot. You will > have to keep the packages installed, though: as explained above, the > microcode

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 06:23:40PM -0300, Dr Beco wrote: > Hoping to add some 'reference', so we can compare actual microcode > versions, I find myself with > $ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep microcode > microcode 0x1b > ... Slighly faster to type and run $ grep microcode /proc/cpuinfo

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Nov 2012, Erwan David wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 09:12:53PM CET, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > said: > > Microcode updates will be applied immediately when the microcode > > packages are installed or updated: you don't have to reboot. You will > > have to keep the packages insta

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-05 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 09:12:53PM CET, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh said: > > Microcode updates will be applied immediately when the microcode > packages are installed or updated: you don't have to reboot. You will > have to keep the packages installed, though: as explained above, the > microc

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 05 Nov 2012, Dr Beco wrote: > Hoping to add some 'reference', so we can compare actual microcode > versions, I find myself with > $ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep microcode > microcode 0x1b > ... > > Now, what is the version of the updated microcode? cpuinfo lists the current microcode running

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-05 Thread Erwan David
Le Mon 5/11/2012, Dr Beco disait > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I would like to bring to your attention the improved support for system > > processor (CPU) microcode updates, for x86/i686/x86-64/amd64 systems > > that was recently add

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel/AMD x86 CPU microcode update system in non-free

2012-11-05 Thread Dr Beco
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Hello all, > > I would like to bring to your attention the improved support for system > processor (CPU) microcode updates, for x86/i686/x86-64/amd64 systems > that was recently added to [non-free] Wheezy. Thanks Henrique for

Re: announcement

2009-04-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,02.Apr.09, 12:38:53, John W Foster wrote: [snip unwanted message] > Why is this on a Debian List??? Because it's spam? Please do not answer (and definitely don't quote) to messages that look like spam. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enou

Re: announcement

2009-04-02 Thread John W Foster
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 18:25 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:30:10PM +0530, Jeffrin Jose wrote: > > hello all, > > > > I have a good news to announce. > > I have started a Fundamnetal Research(as i call ) on Installers and > > Builders. > > > > You can see the scratch wor

Re: announcement

2009-04-02 Thread John W Foster
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 23:30 +0530, Jeffrin Jose wrote: > hello all, > > I have a good news to announce. > I have started a Fundamnetal Research(as i call ) on Installers and > Builders. > > You can see the scratch work at > http://www.trueangle.org/ and > http://www.gnuresearch.com/ > All supp

Re: announcement

2009-04-01 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:30:10PM +0530, Jeffrin Jose wrote: > hello all, > > I have a good news to announce. > I have started a Fundamnetal Research(as i call ) on Installers and > Builders. > > You can see the scratch work at > http-//www_trueangle_org/ and > http-//www_gnuresearch_com/ (URL

Re: Announcement: Debian "Official CD" Policy

1997-01-21 Thread Daniel S. Barclay
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) > ... > We will do this by producing a CD "master" (actually an ISO image file) > of each release ... Excellent! (The quality of the CD distribution depends only on Debian, not on CD manufacturers.) Daniel -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-