Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-26 Thread Miles Bader
"Michael M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But I think you did not hear from most of the legions of Sid users for > whom the Xorg upgrade proceeded without a single issue. As far as I could tell, the most annoying problems happened only if you had customized xorg.conf, which I suppose the bulk of

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-26 Thread Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much)
Michael M. wrote: Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: Yes, I know this is not Sid, but I read with interest the many posts covering the Xorg upgrade. I could practically hear the yelping. But I think you did not hear from most of the legions of Sid users for whom the Xorg upgrade

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-26 Thread Michael M.
Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: Yes, I know this is not Sid, but I read with interest the many posts covering the Xorg upgrade. I could practically hear the yelping. But I think you did not hear from most of the legions of Sid users for whom the Xorg upgrade proceeded without a

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-25 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 09:40:48AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 11:06:42AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:41:09PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > If the filename doesn't change (of the kernel image) i think neither > > > gru

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 04:33:51PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Isn't that the purpose of symlinks to kernel images? so you don't have > > to rerun for new kernels with same name? > > This is so that the lilo.conf doesn't need to be chang

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-25 Thread Matthias Julius
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Isn't that the purpose of symlinks to kernel images? so you don't have > to rerun for new kernels with same name? This is so that the lilo.conf doesn't need to be changed. The lilo bootloader doesn't know anything about filesystems. And it doe

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 11:06:42AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:41:09PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > If the filename doesn't change (of the kernel image) i think neither > > grub nor lilo need the update. But it doesn't hurt. Unless you changed > > menu.lst

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-25 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:41:09PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > If the filename doesn't change (of the kernel image) i think neither > grub nor lilo need the update. But it doesn't hurt. Unless you changed > menu.lst without reading/understanding the instructions inside. lilo has to be called

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much)
Andreas Rippl wrote: On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:46:56PM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: [...] Hi Sumo, Hi Andreas, I have gone through the update (without giving much thought I have to admit) and there was no trouble here. I guess I didn't give a second thought because

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andreas Rippl wrote: On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:46:56PM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: Joris Huizer wrote: I don't know exactly why libc6 is upgraded, but the upgrade seems to be part of the 3.1r2 update (see http://release.debian.org/stable/3.1/3.1r2/) I got it too, just

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrei Popescu wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Hasler wrote: Sumo Wrestler writes: As Joris Huizer says, it's the new point release. I'll get it sometime, but not now :) There is no reason not to get it now. Point releases always go smoothly. If you have been doing sec

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread John Hasler
Andrei writes: > If the filename doesn't change (of the kernel image) i think neither grub > nor lilo need the update. Lilo does. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Andreas Rippl
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:46:56PM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: > Joris Huizer wrote: > > > >I don't know exactly why libc6 is upgraded, but the upgrade seems to be > >part of the 3.1r2 update (see http://release.debian.org/stable/3.1/3.1r2/) > >I got it too, just tracking s

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:26:38PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > > > Do you need to reboot after this upgrade? I'm asking because I did the > > > > upgrade on a remote machine with s

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 01:14:41PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > And if you use lilo to set up bootablility, you'd better run it *before* > you reboot; otherwise it will not be able to find the new kernel. And > the old one will have been replaced, if it's really just a bugfix of the >

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread hendrik
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:26:38PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > Do you need to reboot after this upgrade? I'm asking because I did the > > > upgrade on a remote machine with some hardware troubles and I am afraid >

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
Joris Huizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > Do you need to reboot after this upgrade? I'm asking because I did the > > upgrade on a remote machine with some hardware troubles and I am afraid > > to reboot it. > > > > Hmm... if you got a new kernel image you need to r

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Joris Huizer
Andrei Popescu wrote: Do you need to reboot after this upgrade? I'm asking because I did the upgrade on a remote machine with some hardware troubles and I am afraid to reboot it. Hmm... if you got a new kernel image you need to restart the machine to use it (untill then it's running with the

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Joris Huizer
Andrei Popescu wrote: Do you need to reboot after this upgrade? I'm asking because I did the upgrade on a remote machine with some hardware troubles and I am afraid to reboot it. There shouldn't be a need to do so; if some service needs to be restarted, just do the `/etc/init.d/ restart`, th

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > Sumo Wrestler writes: > >> As Joris Huizer says, it's the new point release. I'll get it sometime, > >> but not now :) > > > > There is no reason not to get it now. Point releases always go smoothly. > > If you have been doing se

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
John Hasler wrote: Sumo Wrestler writes: As Joris Huizer says, it's the new point release. I'll get it sometime, but not now :) There is no reason not to get it now. Point releases always go smoothly. If you have been doing security updates you already have most of it. I got it without any p

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread John Hasler
Sumo Wrestler writes: > As Joris Huizer says, it's the new point release. I'll get it sometime, > but not now :) There is no reason not to get it now. Point releases always go smoothly. If you have been doing security updates you already have most of it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much)
Christopher Nelson wrote: On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 10:31:23AM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: I just did an "aptitude update," and now when I attempt to upgrade, aptitude says that it wants to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev. [...] Again if it's the stable version, it should be g

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much)
Joris Huizer wrote: I don't know exactly why libc6 is upgraded, but the upgrade seems to be part of the 3.1r2 update (see http://release.debian.org/stable/3.1/3.1r2/) I got it too, just tracking sarge too HTH, Thanks Joris, it does help. Wow, we're going to get another point release. This

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much)
Florian Kulzer wrote: You can use aptitude changelog libc6 libc6-dev Thanks, this'll be useful to me. I know it's in the man-page, but I didn't think about it. to see the changelogs for the new packages. Maybe that will tell you what is up. If that does not work (I often have problems wi

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Joris Huizer wrote: > > I don't know exactly why libc6 is upgraded, but the upgrade seems to be > part of the 3.1r2 update (see http://release.debian.org/stable/3.1/3.1r2/) > I got it too, just tracking sarge too > It has to do with the recent changes in daylight savings time in certain parts of

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread John Hasler
Sumo Wrestler wrote: > My question is "why are libc6 and libc6-dev being upgraded?" IIRC, because of time zone changes. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Joey Hess
libc6 is updated in the point release to update timezone information and fix a bug on the amd64 architecture. This is documented in the release announcement under "Miscellaneous Bugfixes". If you install apt-listchanges, it will show you the changelogs before upgrading the packages, which is usefu

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Joris Huizer
Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: I'm using Sarge. I just did an "aptitude update," and now when I attempt to upgrade, aptitude says that it wants to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev. I know that those are pretty critical to the functioning of the system, so I've temporarily put them on ho

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 10:31:23 -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: > I'm using Sarge. > > I just did an "aptitude update," and now when I attempt to upgrade, > aptitude says that it wants to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev. > > I know that those are pretty critical to the functionin

Re: afraid to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev

2006-04-23 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 10:31:23AM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: > I'm using Sarge. > > I just did an "aptitude update," and now when I attempt to upgrade, > aptitude says that it wants to upgrade libc6 and libc6-dev. > > I know that those are pretty critical to the function