Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-16 Thread Jochen Schulz
Adam Hardy: > > The problem with gnome is that it stalls on startup for about 3 to 5 > mins with certain window managers: wmaker, uwm, blackbox, icewm I don't use Gnome but I tried it with IceWM and it didn't stall back then. > I think it lies with either gnome-proxy or gnome-session, I'm not s

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-16 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 13/09/05 17:39, wrote: [can change the window manager in gnome] by changing the window manager > command in here ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/%gconf.xml I discovered that sawfish, metacity and enlightenment work. Blackbox and uwm don't (weird effects happe

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Paul Scott
Adam Hardy wrote: Cybe R. Wizard on 14/09/05 13:38, wrote: I think you'd be happy with IceWM as it is configurable to do most of what you want so far. In addition you'll need Iceconf or Icepref for configuration. one major plus point for icewm - it starts all programs with a window the sa

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Cybe R. Wizard on 14/09/05 13:38, wrote: I think you'd be happy with IceWM as it is configurable to do most of what you want so far. In addition you'll need Iceconf or Icepref for configuration. one major plus point for icewm - it starts all programs with a window the same size as the availab

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Cybe R. Wizard on 14/09/05 13:38, wrote: IceWM can do that. (but multiple desktops are /so/ cool!) I think you'd be happy with IceWM as it is configurable to do most of what you want so far. In addition you'll need Iceconf or Icepref for configuration. Thanks for those tips. Got most of it c

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 03:19:14PM +0300, Simo Kauppi wrote: > Hi, > > My two cents to the window manager monologue... :) > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:17:42AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > > When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all > > apps in a list or a row with t

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 01:37:52PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Kai Grossjohann on 14/09/05 13:01, wrote: > >Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all > >>apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighte

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:17:42 +0100 Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see > all apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighted. > I saw one window manager doing it just how I like it but don't > remember which

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 14/09/05 13:01, wrote: Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighted. I saw one window manager doing it just how I like it but don't remember w

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all > apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighted. I saw > one window manager doing it just how I like it but don't remember which > one now. WindowMaker does this

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Simo Kauppi
Hi, My two cents to the window manager monologue... :) On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:17:42AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Kai Grossjohann on 14/09/05 09:16, wrote: > >Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>I discovered that sawfish, metacity and enlightenment work. Blackbox and > >>uwm don't (wei

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 14/09/05 09:16, wrote: Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I discovered that sawfish, metacity and enlightenment work. Blackbox and uwm don't (weird effects happen instead though - quite interesting!). Still to try wmaker and a couple of others. I haven't found a window

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Angelo on 14/09/05 06:00, wrote: On Tuesday 13 September 2005 07:59 pm, David Purton wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:51:59AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Angelo Bertolli on 13/09/05 19:16, wrote: Antonio Rodriguez wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: This thread

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Angelo Bertolli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yes, I'd like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus > if at all possible. A number of window managers have a "focus new windows" option. It may work to turn that off. I don't know whether your wm has such an option, though. Kai --

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I discovered that sawfish, metacity and enlightenment work. Blackbox and > uwm don't (weird effects happen instead though - quite interesting!). > > Still to try wmaker and a couple of others. > > I haven't found a window manager fulfills all the little qu

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Angelo
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 07:59 pm, David Purton wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:51:59AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > > Angelo Bertolli on 13/09/05 19:16, wrote: > > >Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > > >>>This thread is turning into a

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Nguyen Anh Phu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Hardy wrote: > Angelo Bertolli on 13/09/05 19:16, wrote: > >> Antonio Rodriguez wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: >>> >>> This thread is turning into a bit of monologue. Does nobody else have is

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread David Purton
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 12:51:59AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Angelo Bertolli on 13/09/05 19:16, wrote: > >Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > > >>On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > >> > >> > >>>This thread is turning into a bit of monologue. Does nobody else have > >>>issues

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
Angelo Bertolli on 13/09/05 19:16, wrote: Antonio Rodriguez wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: This thread is turning into a bit of monologue. Does nobody else have issues with their window manager? Or even better, solved them? Adam, keep talking. It is

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Antonio Rodriguez wrote: On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: This thread is turning into a bit of monologue. Does nobody else have issues with their window manager? Or even better, solved them? Adam, keep talking. It is an interesting monologue. Yes, I'd lik

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > This thread is turning into a bit of monologue. Does nobody else have > issues with their window manager? Or even better, solved them? Adam, keep talking. It is an interesting monologue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 12/09/05 11:58, wrote: Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs, o

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 12/09/05 11:58, wrote: Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs, o

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 12/09/05 11:58, wrote: Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs, o

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. > Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs, one of which is a window manager. There sho

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 12/09/05 09:59, wrote: Almut Behrens on 12/09/05 01:15, wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:47:04PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 23:00, wrote: UWM: Your X-Server doesn't support the SHAPES extension . terminating I can't find any reference to SHAPES ext

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Adam Hardy
Almut Behrens on 12/09/05 01:15, wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:47:04PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 23:00, wrote: UWM: Your X-Server doesn't support the SHAPES extension . terminating I can't find any reference to SHAPES extension in synaptic. Where does it resid

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Rogério Brito
On Sep 12 2005, Almut Behrens wrote: > BTW, with "xdpyinfo" you can check which extensions your X-server > supports. See the list following "number of extensions:". Be careful, though, that not all extensions may work. For instance, the output of xdpyinfo may list the xv extension, even though it

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Almut Behrens
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:47:04PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 23:00, wrote: > > >UWM: Your X-Server doesn't support the SHAPES extension . terminating > > > >I can't find any reference to SHAPES extension in synaptic. Where does > >it reside? > > Just realised you prob

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 23:00, wrote: UWM: Your X-Server doesn't support the SHAPES extension . terminating I can't find any reference to SHAPES extension in synaptic. Where does it reside? Just realised you probably don't install SHAPES, rather upgrade something to a version that does i

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 22:53, wrote: I just put a .xinitrc file in my $HOME with 'blackbox' as the window manager, and I found a 'window manager' submenu. This allows me to change from blackbox to metacity or afterwm or several others, but enlightenment, sawfish and uwm wont run, giving an err