Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 08 oct 21, 13:55:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I'm still curious about what's actually happening here. Perhaps nobody > on this list knows, which is understandable, but if someone does > happen to know the details, I'd like to hear them. > > What I know so far is that someone at ovh.net is

Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > you can go back to my original post at the start of this thread. I did several times meanwhile. It's all that a have as base for my speculations. > I included the full text of what bendel sent to me. You can very clearly > see the headers, and the complete lack of th

Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 10:03:57PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I doubt that it is due to any address in the body. Rather i assume that > you are named in the MAIL FROM command of the bounce message. Except, I'm *looking* at what bendel says it received, and that isn't the case. > What you see

Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > This response message > is sent with an envelope sender (MAIL FROM) address of > postmas...@vps268904.ovh.net > [...] > How does an > email address that only appears in the body get counted as if it were > the sender? I doubt that it is due to any address in the body. R

Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-08 Thread harryweaver
-- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox. 9 Oct 2021, 02:52 by d...@randomstring.org: > > Guess what I just got? > > -dsr- > Yes, I got the initial one yesterday. `This is just a test email, etc. etc.,' Cheers! Harry.

Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-08 Thread piorunz
Just get this message subjected Debian-Bounce-Test pior...@gmx.com Fri, 08 Oct 2021 04:40:44 +, from listmas...@lists.debian.org: "This is a test mailing, to check if the address pior...@gmx.com causes bounces, tries to challenge-response or autoresponds back to Mailinglists, or Mailinglist-

Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 05:33:26PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > In the meantime, if anybody else has problems from this host - it is > appropriate to email listmas...@lists.debian.org and explain what has > happened, including the headers and bounce email text. If they allow > your host, the

Re: You have been removed from

2021-10-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 12:52:51PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Guess what I just got? > > -dsr- > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 15:00:41 + (UTC) > From: debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > To: d...@randomstring.org > Subject: You have been removed from the list People: I just sent a private re

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 09:09:11PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > I believe that the solution is simple, and, what the list administrator(s) > > of the Debian User list will not do; simply disallow messages posted to the > > list, from non-subscribers. > > > > It is simple, w

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The "forged bounce messages" (for lack of a better term) are coming > from someone who *is* subscribed. They've set up some sort of auto-responder > which is generating one of these messages every time they receive a > message from the list. This would be a novel appli

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 11:43:02AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 09:09:11PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > I believe that the solution is simple, and, what the list administrator(s) > of the Debian User list will not do; simply disallow messages posted to the > list, from non-subscribers. > > It is simple, will minimise spurious removals fro

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Bret Busby
On 6/10/21 7:43 pm, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply re-subscribi

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 11:43:02AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Is there anything I

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Reco
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply > > > re-subscribing every time I post? > > > > I

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:39:26AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply > > > re-subscribing every time I post? > > > > I

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 08:27:36AM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply > > re-subscribing every time I post? > > It says there plain and clear: > > > > When in doubt, ... or send mail to "

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-05 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Is this happening to anyone else? Not yet. > Is there anything I can do to stop it, other than simply > re-subscribing every time I post? It says there plain and clear: > > When in doubt, ... or send mail to "postmas

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Greg, On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 04:40:41PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > My best guess is that someone is spamming debian-user, the messages are > being sent to everyone, my local MTA's spam filters are blocking them, > and the mailing list is getting mad at me for blocking the spam that it's > s

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-05 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/5/21, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the last 24 hours, I've been dropped from this list at least 3 times. > I am able to re-subscribe, but it's a real pain in the ass. > > It seems to happen after I post a message to the list while subscribed. > In each case, I receive a message like the one I'v

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg Wooledge wrote: > In the last 24 hours, I've been dropped from this list at least 3 times. > [...] > Is this happening to anyone else? Not to me. > > >Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 22:28:47 +0200 > > >Subject: **stop** I am not aware to have seen this. So the theory seems not plausible that yo

Re: You have been removed from the list (repeatedly)

2021-10-05 Thread piorunz
On 05/10/2021 21:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: Your mail addressg...@wooledge.org has been removed from thedebian-u...@lists.debian.org mailinglist. It generated an excessive amount of bounced mails. That's the explanation. My guess, based on this, is: Your e-mail system bounces spam back, meaning