Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-12-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 27.11.2014 03:04, Serge a écrit : Later some people started to abuse those directories and put there files, that never supposed to be there. Those people don't really think about standards or unification. Usually they just enable displaying hidden files in their file manager, see a lot of do

Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-12-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 28.11.2014 15:32, Rusi Mody a écrit : However there are some issues: if the software-versions in these dont match up then its precisely these XDG files that tread on each others' toes across OSes. Well... if configuration files are not both upward and downward compatible between different

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 15:24, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman >> wrote: >>> >>> Having just waded through this thread, >> >> My sincere sympathies. >> >>> and then reading the standard itself, >> >> Based on what you are quoting - tha

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman wrote: Having just waded through this thread, My sincere sympathies. and then reading the standard itself, Based on what you are quoting - that's the Base Directory Specification, which is part of the XDG Standards I can on

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Having just waded through this thread, My sincere sympathies. > and then reading the standard itself, Based on what you are quoting - that's the Base Directory Specification, which is part of the XDG Standards > I can only conclude that it m

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Having just waded through this thread, and then reading the standard itself, I can only conclude that it may not be "evil" but it is a horribly written standard. To start with, there's absolutely no context: The introduction reads, simply "Various specifications specify files and file formats

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Edward J. Shornock
* seeker5528 [29-11-2014 08:52 EET]: > Oh yeah, if you've done all that you might actually want your user account > to belong to the shared group. ;) > as root: > > |usermod -a -G sharedusers yourusername| > > :note the capital G. In Debian you can also adduser yourusername sharedusers --

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-11-28 Thread seeker5528
On 11/28/2014 10:27 PM, seeker5528 wrote: Pictures, music, etc... can all be kept on another partition, creating symlinks in your home directory within each installation in place of the real Documents, Pictures, etc... that would normally be there. As root you can do something like: |groupad

Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-11-28 Thread seeker5528
On 11/28/2014 6:32 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: I have a question along these lines: Years ago when we used computers, many people used one machine -- centrally administered. Nowadays one person uses many machines 1. Simply multiple hardware 2. Multiple OSes on the same h/w 3. Other more fancy (cloud)

Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-11-28 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I do this on my own machine. The visible stuff I used to keep in my home directory is now in a separate partition mounted on ~/Desktop. I've noticed just one downside: cd no longer takes me to a useful place. So I have an alias called cdd that takes me to Desktop and I'm trying to remember to use

Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-11-28 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:00:05 AM UTC+5:30, Serge wrote: > 2014/11/16 Peter Nieman wrote: > > Has anyone ever wondered where all these funny directories like ~/.cache, > > ~/.config, ~/.local or even ~/Desktop (with a capital D) came from that > > appeared in Debian after upgrading to - was

Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)

2014-11-26 Thread seeker5528
On 11/26/2014 6:04 PM, Serge wrote: Those XDG standards were created by "X Desktop Group" only to define unified directories for COMMON files of multiple X desktop environments, not for some rogue applications to hide their own private files. Each of files placed in those directories is exten