On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:32:15 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote:
> > >
> > > From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom
> > > kernel.
> >
> > Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable
> > modem) and g
On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom
> > kernel.
>
> Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable
> modem) and grab an appropriate kernel.
Devil's advocate mode: sorry, your ISP requi
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:04:44 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 11:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
> > Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
> >>> Gary Dale wrote:
> > ...
> >
> Having a porta
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:05:02 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:50:02, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
> > Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Not quite sure I get you - if my hypothetical router (running x86 HW,
> > not like my actual routers that run OpenWRT on
Hi,
Atıf CEYLAN wrote:
> For example, my wireless card is not supported by debian wheezy standart
> kernel. Also non-free package is not working. So I compile it from
> source code and I change some part of the code (because some part of
> code is not working with my hardware). So I must make com
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 21:11 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> martin@merkaba:~> ls -lh /boot/{vm,init}*
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Jul 3 16:39 /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-3-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14M Jul 3 16:39 /boot/initrd.img-3.4-trunk-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8,8M Jul 3 16:39 /
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> > On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > I did not yet compile a complete KDE
> >
> >
> >
> > Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
>
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > I did not yet compile a complete KDE
>
> Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
> PITA :D.
I don´t think that building KDE SC would be that complex, ther
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Raffaele Morelli:
> 2012/7/10 Muhammad Yousuf Khan
>
> > This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
> > need your help.
> >
> > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > compiling kernel on debian.
> > what is t
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Kumar Appaiah:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:54:29AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> > The kernel provided when you install Linux, Debian included, has to
> > work on nearly every system out there so it includes drivers for
> > nearly piece of hardware that can be ins
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > > compiling kernel on debian.
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> > why should my work machine kernel need to be
> > appropriate for my router?
>
> A stock kernel should work for both. IMHO, even if you do use custom
> kernels, it's probably a good idea to keep a stock kernel around for
> backup and troubles
Am Mittwoch, 11. Juli 2012 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:04 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> > The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware
> > change is capable of doing that with a custom kernel.
>
> +1
>
> I almost exclusively use self-build kernels only, becau
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 20:46 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> I did not yet compile a complete KDE
Even compiling something simple as e17 without using a script is a
PITA :D.
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Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
> > And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> > specific machine is portable?
>
> Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
> your router m
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Gary Dale:
> People who prepare the individual packages or distributions are
> usually the only ones who need to compile code. However, some
> brave/foolhardy souls must have the latest code from the developer's
> source and compile their own. This is invariably
Am Dienstag, 10. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
> > i have heard many time that people are compiling kernel on debian.
>
> That's a good example.
I wanted to have a 3.5-rc5 kernel for testing. And it did compile in about
10 minutes here. ;)
There is no need to tough, if you happy with packages jus
On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 09:04 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> The reason machine A is not bootable is because a minor hardware change
> is capable of doing that with a custom kernel.
+1
I almost exclusively use self-build kernels only, because I need them,
but I don't drop too much hardware support, usu
On 10/07/12 11:28 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
...
Having a portable kernel is a lot simpler than trying to rescue a
non-bootable machine from a live CD.
Tr
2012/7/10 Muhammad Yousuf Khan
> This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
> need your help.
>
> why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> compiling kernel on debian.
> what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
> have b
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 19:15 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> > On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >>
> >> This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
> >> need your help.
> >>
> >> why people do compil
On 11/07/12 01:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 22:50:02, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> Not quite sure I get you - if my hypothetical router (running x86 HW,
> not like my actual routers that run OpenWRT on arm, and that don't
> have lots of extra MB to spare) needs a new kern
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:54:29AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> The kernel provided when you install Linux, Debian included, has to work
> on nearly every system out there so it includes drivers for nearly piece
> of hardware that can be installed in a PC.
>
> I always compile a kernel with only t
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:21:37 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
> > Gary Dale wrote:
...
> >> Having a portable kernel is a lot simpler than trying to rescue a
> >> non-bootable machine from a live CD.
> > True - but then I can
On 10/07/12 10:47 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:06:02 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
com
On 10/07/12 10:52 PM, Celejar wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation wher
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:20:05 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
> >> And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> >> specific machine is portable?
> > Imagine a situation where due to whatever reaso
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:22:46 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> > specific machine is portable?
>
> Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
> your router ma
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 02:06:02 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> > Howdy,
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > >
> > > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > > compiling ke
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:54 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >
> > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > compiling kernel on debian.
> > what is the reason for this? i am using debian for
Howdy,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>
> why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> compiling kernel on debian.
> what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
> have been using it on different platform in CLI
On 10/07/12 04:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
your router machine gets corrupted, then you can
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 22:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 23:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > >
> > > I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
> > > 1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 23:28 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
> > 1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
> > it in the future again. It also is needed, if you
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 21:33:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> I compile software myself for at least three reasons.
> 1. In the past I often was a tester for e.g. Qtractor and I plan to do
> it in the future again. It also is needed, if you wish to do
> translations. Until now I never finished a translation
On Ma, 10 iul 12, 15:08:52, Celejar wrote:
>
> And why do I care whether the kernel I compile locally for a
> specific machine is portable?
Imagine a situation where due to whatever reason the kernel image of
your router machine gets corrupted, then you can just copy the file from
another machi
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 17:03 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > [snip] i have heard many time that people are compiling kernel on debian.
>
> Some kernels with special patches are not always available for Debian.
> Sometimes e.g. a kernel
On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 17:03 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> [snip] i have heard many time that people are compiling kernel on debian.
Some kernels with special patches are not always available for Debian.
Sometimes e.g. a kernel-rt is available, but sometimes it isn't. If e.g.
a kernel-rt sho
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:55:23 -0400
Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
> > need your help.
> >
> > why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
> > compiling kernel on debian
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:03:12 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>
>> This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i need
>> your help.
>>
>> why people do compiling.
>
> For many reasons but mainly because there are no binaries
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:03:12 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i need
> your help.
>
> why people do compiling.
For many reasons but mainly because there are no binaries available for
your system and you have to get the source
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>>
>> This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
>> need your help.
>>
>> why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
>> compiling kernel on debian.
>>
On 10/07/12 08:03 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
This is a very basic question but confusing me for very long. so i
need your help.
why people do compiling. i have heard many time that people are
compiling kernel on debian.
what is the reason for this? i am using debian for almost 1.5 year and
People do compilation for many reason.
They want to learn more. They want to run packages from source code.
If you are going to compile kernel from source you can learn more details
about kernel.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> This is a very basic question but co
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