Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-19 Thread Jack Carroll
On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 06:34:25AM +1100, bob parker wrote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:09, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > > > 9) Does the gentoo configurability deliver significantly better > > performance? Is the added step of compilation too much of an > > inconvenience? > >

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-19 Thread bob parker
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:09, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > > > 9) Does the gentoo configurability deliver significantly better > performance? Is the added step of compilation too much of an > inconvenience? By compiling all applications with optimisations for your processor, you can ha

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-19 Thread Sneferu
At 01:11 PM 2/19/2004, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > 9) Does the gentoo configurability deliver significantly better > performance? If you put X on it yes, performance is better. In text mode there is not difference. --- Cauta-ti

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-19 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > 1) Do you think that OpenBSD 's repuation as a secure OS is > justified? Somewhat, but not entirely. > Does the secure part of OpenBSD provide a useful platform for your > needs? Not really, one needs more software. > Wou

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-18 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Manoj Srivasta wrote: >In order to start a dialogue, I have a few questions I would > like to solicit responses to the following (please do not hesitate to > add to the following; these are merely things I have thought off the > top of my head). Mind if I give another reason? "Debian will remain

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Nate Duehr
On Feb 13, 2004, at 12:22 PM, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:15:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:59:25AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: 7) are security patch mechanisms convenient for

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:58:38 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Op vr 13-02-2004, om 00:09 schreef Manoj Srivastava: >> 5) Are upgrades easy for the BSD OS's? > >They're both not really difficult, but they're certainly not as >convenient. On Debian, it's just a matter of "apt{-get,

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 08:15:34PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:59:25AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > > > 7) are security patch mechanisms convenient for the BSD's? > > > For Linux in gen

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 09:59:25AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > > 7) are security patch mechanisms convenient for the BSD's? > > For Linux in general? For Debian? > > I believe their methods of distributing updates secur

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > 7) are security patch mechanisms convenient for the BSD's? > For Linux in general? For Debian? I believe their methods of distributing updates securely are significantly more convenient than ours at present. I believe you c

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > 6) Are security fixes available in a timely fashion for the BSD's? > For Linux in general? For Debian? I have some data comparing Linux distributions and the time to patch known security vulnerabilities, no data of BSDs, how

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op vr 13-02-2004, om 00:09 schreef Manoj Srivastava: > Hi, > > I have been asked to give a talk at my local LUG with that > topic. The audience is fairly technical, and there is going to be a > companion talk "Why FreeBSD" later in the year. > > I know why _I_ have decided to go

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread William Lee Irwin III
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > However, I would indeed want to cover why one would want to > select Linux over the BSD's, and why one would want to select Debian > over the other distributions. I wanted to be instantly set up to hack the kernel. BSD's r

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >However, I would indeed want to cover why one would want to > select Linux over the BSD's, and why one would want to select Debian > over the other distributions. [...] One of the reasons for selecting Debian over other Distributions is it

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 17:51, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > Feel free to reply to me offline, I'll summarize on list; but > > I think that a lively dialogue shall elicit more material for an > > evangelizing document ;-) > > Ugh, yo

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-12 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 05:09:46PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Feel free to reply to me offline, I'll summarize on list; but > I think that a lively dialogue shall elicit more material for an > evangelizing document ;-) Ugh, you were doing great until that. Can't contribute to an adv

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-12 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I have been asked to give a talk at my local LUG with that > topic. The audience is fairly technical, and there is going to be a > companion talk "Why FreeBSD" later in the year. Why not debian bsd? :) Might be a nice addon at th

Re: Why Linux, Why Debian

2004-02-12 Thread Steve Hargreaves
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, I have been asked to give a talk at my local LUG with that topic. The audience is fairly technical, and there is going to be a companion talk "Why FreeBSD" later in the year. I know why _I_ have decided to go with Linux, and Debian, but I want to delive