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From: deloptes [delop...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:35 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Wheezy to Stretch
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Just keep in mind that we all have diff
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Just keep in mind that we all have different experiences and different
> reasons for thinking and believing the things that we think and believe.
I can only support this (in fact all your writing, but removed most of it to
make it easier to read).
12+ Years ago I had
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:07:09PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>
> First off you're quoting something you have read and not from any real
> experience.
You have aboslutely no evidence to support your statement. I don't
think rhkramer has specifically stated whether he is basing his
statements o
On Thursday, February 22, 2018 02:07:09 AM Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 02/21/2018 07:02 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 03:40:51 PM Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >> On 02/21/2018 10:47 AM, Roberto C. S�nchez wrote:
> >>> Note that upgrades skipping a release (e.g., wheezy -
On 2018-02-21, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
[...]
> I know what I'm talking about ...
Dude, you're talking to a Debian developer.
OP, if you're reading this, I urge you to follow the advice of Roberto
and other wiser heads.
--
Liam
Hello,
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 08:17:43AM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> > I never said that! But I do know what I'm talking about because I do
> > what I'm talking about constantly.
>
> you have said that, because in the official upgrade notes, as Roberto
> pointed out, it says
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> I never said that! But I do know what I'm talking about because I do
> what I'm talking about constantly.
>
you have said that, because in the official upgrade notes, as Roberto
pointed out, it says you can go only one level up at a time.
Perhaps your setup has nothing sp
On 02/21/2018 07:02 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 03:40:51 PM Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 02/21/2018 10:47 AM, Roberto C. S�nchez wrote:
Note that upgrades skipping a release (e.g., wheezy -> stretch instead
of wheezy -> jessie -> stretch) are not supported. A fresh
On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 03:40:51 PM Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 02/21/2018 10:47 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > Note that upgrades skipping a release (e.g., wheezy -> stretch instead
> > of wheezy -> jessie -> stretch) are not supported. A fresh install
> > sounds like the better route in
On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:45:51 + "Kleene, Steven (kleenesj)"
wrote:
> I am running Wheezy (v7 = oldoldstable) and intend to replace it with
> a fresh install of Stretch (v9 = stable) before Wheezy's support runs
> out on May 31st. I will try the default systemd installation and see
> how I lik
On 02/21/2018 02:10 PM, Karol Augustin wrote:
On 2018-02-21 21:42, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 02/21/2018 01:31 PM, deloptes wrote:
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
For all the "Na" Sayers here, nothing lost except for sometime and
something to gan the system you want and if you can't make it work
format and
On 02/21/2018 02:18 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2018-02-21 16:49 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:39:15PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
Speaking of sysvinit, one problem with a direct upgrade from Wheezy to
Stretch is that there is no _package_ named sysvinit in Stretch, so y
On 2018-02-21 16:49 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:39:15PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> Speaking of sysvinit, one problem with a direct upgrade from Wheezy to
>> Stretch is that there is no _package_ named sysvinit in Stretch, so you
>> will be left with the old sysvinit
On 2018-02-21 21:42, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 02/21/2018 01:31 PM, deloptes wrote:
>> Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> For all the "Na" Sayers here, nothing lost except for sometime and
>>> something to gan the system you want and if you can't make it work
>>> format and do a new system, but remember t
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:39:15PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> Speaking of sysvinit, one problem with a direct upgrade from Wheezy to
> Stretch is that there is no _package_ named sysvinit in Stretch, so you
> will be left with the old sysvinit from Wheezy and have to do a manual
> upgrade, e.g. l
On 02/21/2018 01:31 PM, deloptes wrote:
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
For all the "Na" Sayers here, nothing lost except for sometime and
something to gan the system you want and if you can't make it work
format and do a new system, but remember there is no "sysvinit" in
Stretch.
OK, I have a question:
On 2018-02-21 16:01 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:58:11PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> For all the "Na" Sayers here, nothing lost except for sometime and something
>> to gan the system you want and if you can't make it work format and do a new
>> system, but remember t
On 02/21/2018 01:01 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:58:11PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
For all the "Na" Sayers here, nothing lost except for sometime and something
to gan the system you want and if you can't make it work format and do a new
system, but remember there is no "
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> For all the "Na" Sayers here, nothing lost except for sometime and
> something to gan the system you want and if you can't make it work
> format and do a new system, but remember there is no "sysvinit" in
> Stretch.
OK, I have a question:
Why do you think you are smarter th
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:58:11PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> For all the "Na" Sayers here, nothing lost except for sometime and something
> to gan the system you want and if you can't make it work format and do a new
> system, but remember there is no "sysvinit" in Stretch.
There is. It's jus
On 02/21/2018 10:39 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 02/21/2018 09:45 AM, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
I am running Wheezy (v7 = oldoldstable) and intend to replace it with
a fresh
install of Stretch (v9 = stable) before Wheezy's support runs out on May
31st. I will try the default systemd inst
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 12:40:51PM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> I know what I'm talking about
Same here.
> and if I can do it anybody can do it,
There is a big difference between *can* and *should*.
> Debian
> has given us all the tools we need to upgrade any stable release to current
> stable
On 02/21/2018 09:45 AM, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
I am running Wheezy (v7 = oldoldstable) and intend to replace it with a fresh
install of Stretch (v9 = stable) before Wheezy's support runs out on May
31st. I will try the default systemd installation and see how I like it.
Okay, but I s
On 2/21/2018 7:47 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:39:54AM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 02/21/2018 09:45 AM, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
I am running Wheezy (v7 = oldoldstable) and intend to replace it with a fresh
install of Stretch (v9 = stable) before Wheezy's
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 08:12:56PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
> > Note that upgrades skipping a release (e.g., wheezy -> stretch instead
> > of wheezy -> jessie -> stretch) are not supported. A fresh install
> > sounds like the better route in this case.
>
> Roberto, OP
On 02/21/2018 10:47 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:39:54AM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 02/21/2018 09:45 AM, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
I am running Wheezy (v7 = oldoldstable) and intend to replace it with a fresh
install of Stretch (v9 = stable) before Wheezy'
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Right. Then Jimmy made the rather unwise suggestion of upgrading
> directly from wheezy to stretch and than also something about adding
> backports source prior to upgrading.
>
> I was simply reinforcing the OP's original position that a fresh install
> is the right wa
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Note that upgrades skipping a release (e.g., wheezy -> stretch instead
> of wheezy -> jessie -> stretch) are not supported. A fresh install
> sounds like the better route in this case.
Roberto, OP said he want to replace wheezy with fresh install. Just FYI.
regards
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:39:54AM -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 02/21/2018 09:45 AM, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> > I am running Wheezy (v7 = oldoldstable) and intend to replace it with a
> > fresh
> > install of Stretch (v9 = stable) before Wheezy's support runs out on May
> > 31st. I
Greg Wooledge composed on 2018-02-21 13:11 (UTC-0500):
> If you simply want to boot *once* into multi-user.target without
> changing the default target, you can edit the kernel command line
> and add the option "systemd.unit=multi-user.target".
> Which is a whole lot more typing than adding the o
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 05:45:51PM +, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote:
> With sysvinit, I would set initdefault to runlevel 3
> in /etc/inittab. In /etc/rc3.d, I would rename gdm3 so that I would boot
> into a terminal interface (command line) instead of Gnome. Then I would
> quickly install
On 06/24/2017 02:04 AM, Andrew wrote:
Ive tried to update a non GUI system from Wheezy to Stretch and its gone
horribly wrong.
Theres so many errors I cant even begin to fathom out what has gone
wrong and I think the only solution is going to be a clean install.
New infrastructure, new apt.
W
Le 06/24/17 à 16:16, deloptes a écrit :
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>
>> Which kinda means it would have been faster for you to do a full backup
>> (which you should always do before major upgrades, anyway) and install
>> stretch from scratch, I suppose.
>
> upgrade to jessie and then to
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Which kinda means it would have been faster for you to do a full backup
> (which you should always do before major upgrades, anyway) and install
> stretch from scratch, I suppose.
upgrade to jessie and then to stretch would have worked if OP would have
read th
On Sat, 24 Jun 2017, Andrew wrote:
> Ive tried to update a non GUI system from Wheezy to Stretch and its gone
> horribly wrong.
...
> Would I have been wise to upgrade it to Jessie first?
Yes. The safest procedure is:
1. Update to the latest point-release of the version you have installed.
2.
On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:10:58AM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 06/24/17 à 11:04, Andrew a écrit :
> > Ive tried to update a non GUI system from Wheezy to Stretch and its gone
> > horribly wrong.
> >
> > Theres so many errors I cant even begin to fathom out what has gone
> > wrong and I think th
Le 06/24/17 à 11:04, Andrew a écrit :
> Ive tried to update a non GUI system from Wheezy to Stretch and its gone
> horribly wrong.
>
> Theres so many errors I cant even begin to fathom out what has gone
> wrong and I think the only solution is going to be a clean install.
>
> Would I have been wi
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