Re: Woody-Sarge Upgrade w/ Samba Problems

2005-08-03 Thread Brian Kimsey-Hickman
On 8/2/05, Brian Kimsey-Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just upgraded a Debian box to Sarge and my Samba shares don't seem to > work quite the same. This box should be using Domain Authentication > and I successfully rejoined the domain with a net join command but the > only people that can o

RE: Woody-Sarge Upgrade w/ Samba Problems

2005-08-02 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
Hi Brian, Brian Kimsey-Hickman schreef: > Just upgraded a Debian box to Sarge and my Samba shares don't seem to > work quite the same. This box should be using Domain Authentication > and I successfully rejoined the domain with a net join command but the > only people that can open share are ones

Re: Woody-> Sarge. System won't reboot cleanly

2005-06-29 Thread Robert S
> I'm not sure you want to be running the 386 kernel. > Try installing one the amd kernels, perhaps the 2.6.8-2-k7 kernel-image. > > You could also try resetting your bios back to defaults. > I've tried the following with no success: resetting bios settings "apm=power-off" in lilo.conf installing

Re: Woody-> Sarge. System won't reboot cleanly

2005-06-27 Thread Robert S
> I'm not sure you want to be running the 386 kernel. > Try installing one the amd kernels, perhaps the 2.6.8-2-k7 kernel-image. Tried that - got endless reboots. I assume that the k7 kernel won't run on a k6. Nor will the 686 kernel. I managed to compile a k6 kernel, but got the same problem

Re: Woody-> Sarge. System won't reboot cleanly

2005-06-27 Thread michael
Quoting Robert S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I recently upgraded my system to Sarge, and upgraded my kernel. I have a rather antiquated AMD K6 running on a K6BV3+/66 mobo (AT form factor). If I issue the "reboot" command, everything shuts down, until "rebooting" appears, but then nothing happens. I

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-13 Thread Stephen Patterson
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 17:30:11 +0200, Hendrik Boom wrote: > After 18 hours of upgrading on my very slow 100 MHz Pentium, > it ended up producing an unending stream of > > multilog: warning: unable to write to /var/log/svscan/current. pausing: out > of disk space The few times I've run out of space

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:00:31PM +0100, peter colton wrote: > part is the use of aptitude with a dist-upgrade. Isn't the lack of disk space the issue? aptitude with a dist-upgrade will bring in all recommends which will eat even more disk space! suggest 1) apt-get upgrade Watch packages do

On the use of deborphan (was: Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space)

2005-06-12 Thread Rogério Brito
On 06/12/05 22:43, Tom Allison wrote: A thousand pardons. It found version 10 that was replaced by version 11. I was looking at version 11 being in use, not 10. You're right, I'm wrong. Sorry for the waste in bandwidth. No problems. BTW, here is the command that I use with deborphan: apt-get

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-12 Thread Tom Allison
Rogério Brito wrote: On Jun 11 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote: Will try again. But ... Is it possible to resume the broken upgrade? Yes, it is. But besides the hint given by the previous poster, it would be nice if you could purge some unneeded packages, install both debophan and debfoster and re

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-12 Thread Tom Allison
Rogério Brito wrote: On Jun 11 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote: Will try again. But ... Is it possible to resume the broken upgrade? Yes, it is. But besides the hint given by the previous poster, it would be nice if you could purge some unneeded packages, install both debophan and debfoster and re

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:39:44PM +0200, Maurits van Rees wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 05:46:50PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > But I am still curious how reilient aptitude is to disasters like > > disk-space shortage, and whether there is any way fo finding and > > repairing the packages tha

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 05:46:50PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > But I am still curious how reilient aptitude is to disasters like > disk-space shortage, and whether there is any way fo finding and > repairing the packages that were damages or misconfigured as a result. dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii will

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 08:37:24PM +0200, Maurits van Rees wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:46:22PM +0100, peter colton wrote: > > did you clear var out for apt. > > apt-get clean > > apt-get autoclean > > I would vote for apt-get autoclean here. 'clean' removes all package > files. 'autoc

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 07:00:31PM +0100, peter colton wrote: > On Saturday 11 June 2005 17:20, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:46:22PM +0100, peter colton wrote: > > > On Saturday 11 June 2005 16:49, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > After 18 hours of upgrading on my very slow 100 MHz

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:46:22PM +0100, peter colton wrote: > did you clear var out for apt. > apt-get clean > apt-get autoclean I would vote for apt-get autoclean here. 'clean' removes all package files. 'autoclean' only removes files that cannot be downloaded anymore. So autoclean would k

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito
On Jun 11 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Will try again. But ... Is it possible to resume the broken upgrade? Yes, it is. But besides the hint given by the previous poster, it would be nice if you could purge some unneeded packages, install both debophan and debfoster and remove unneeded packages/li

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread peter colton
On Saturday 11 June 2005 17:20, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:46:22PM +0100, peter colton wrote: > > On Saturday 11 June 2005 16:49, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > After 18 hours of upgrading on my very slow 100 MHz Pentium, > > > it ended up producing an unending stream of > > > > >

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 04:46:22PM +0100, peter colton wrote: > On Saturday 11 June 2005 16:49, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > After 18 hours of upgrading on my very slow 100 MHz Pentium, > > it ended up producing an unending stream of > > > > multilog: warning: unable to write to /var/log/svscan/current.

Re: woody->sarge failed: out pf disk space

2005-06-11 Thread peter colton
On Saturday 11 June 2005 16:49, Hendrik Boom wrote: > After 18 hours of upgrading on my very slow 100 MHz Pentium, > it ended up producing an unending stream of > > multilog: warning: unable to write to /var/log/svscan/current. pausing: out > of disk space > > The installation log file (made using

Re: Woody -> Sarge apt-get dist-upgrade

2005-05-16 Thread Clive Menzies
On (16/05/05 22:03), Mankuthimma wrote: > > At the risk of being contrary, I recently (January) upgraded a couple of > > servers from woody to sarge and it was pretty trivial - in fact I don't > > recall having to do any reconfiguration other than answer some questions > > during the upgrade. > >

Re: Woody -> Sarge apt-get dist-upgrade

2005-05-16 Thread Mankuthimma
> At the risk of being contrary, I recently (January) upgraded a couple of > servers from woody to sarge and it was pretty trivial - in fact I don't > recall having to do any reconfiguration other than answer some questions > during the upgrade. > > Given the supposed strength of Debian is that it

Re: Woody -> Sarge apt-get dist-upgrade

2005-05-15 Thread Clive Menzies
On (16/05/05 02:58), Simon Gloßner wrote: > Hi, > > * Andy Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that Sarge has entered freeze, I'm considering upgrading my Woody box to > > it. This runs the firewall for my local network (connected via Ethernet > > cable modem) handling mail (Exim v3 and fet

Re: Woody -> Sarge apt-get dist-upgrade

2005-05-15 Thread Simon Gloßner
Hi, * Andy Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that Sarge has entered freeze, I'm considering upgrading my Woody box to > it. This runs the firewall for my local network (connected via Ethernet > cable modem) handling mail (Exim v3 and fetchmail), news (newsstar and INN > v2.3.2), web proxy e

Re: Woody -> Sarge apt-get dist-upgrade

2005-05-15 Thread Adam Majer
Andy Hawkins wrote: >Hi all, > >Now that Sarge has entered freeze, I'm considering upgrading my Woody box to >it. This runs the firewall for my local network (connected via Ethernet >cable modem) handling mail (Exim v3 and fetchmail), news (newsstar and INN >v2.3.2), web proxy etc. > >Is the upgra

Re: Woody-->Sarge

2004-12-19 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 06:54:51PM -0600, Eric Scott wrote: > Hey, sorry to ask this FAQ, I know I've done it before, but google is NO > help to me here. > > What exactly do I do to upgrade from Woody to Sarge. I know i have to > plop something in sources.list, the do apt-get update && apt-get

Re: Woody-->Sarge

2004-12-19 Thread Robert Vangel
In /etc/sources.list, change any reference to `stable' (or `woody') to `testing'. Run # apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade Wait for it all to download & install, and you're set. Eric Scott wrote: Hey, sorry to ask this FAQ, I know I've done it before, but google is NO help to me here. What

Re: Woody -> Sarge with apt-cdrom

2004-11-21 Thread Felixk Karpfen
On 2004-11-18, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Felixk Karpfen wrote: >> before plunging into an upgrade >> via "apt-cdrom". >> >> I have used this routine successfully to add the "Debian 3.0R2" upgrade >> disk to my successfully-installed "Debian 3.0R1"; but I blench at an >> upgrad

Re: Woody -> Sarge with apt-cdrom

2004-11-18 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Felixk Karpfen wrote: Although this query may already have been answered several times in recent postings, as a new arrival to Debian, I venture to check that I have understood the docs correctly before plunging into an upgrade via "apt-cdrom". I have used this routine successfully to add the "Debi

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-27 Thread Lucas Albers
somebody said: >>>systems every day. I've been doing it on about 10 systems for about 2 >>>years, and haven't had a lot of trouble; indeed once my mail servers >>> went >>>down for a few hours for that reason, but my mail servers are always >>> looking >>>for an excuse to go down. Use ssh-agent, a

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-26 Thread Nate Duehr
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, May 19, 2004 at 08:07:46PM -0400, David Gaudine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: and if ththeresroblem with MTMTApgrade ?:) True, now and then I have to count the subject lines to make sure all systems are accounted for. But it's still better than logging in to all the sys

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, May 19, 2004 at 08:07:46PM -0400, David Gaudine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > and if ththeresroblem with MTMTApgrade ?:) > > True, now and then I have to count the subject lines to make sure all > systems are accounted for. But it's still better than logging in to all the > systems every

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Marc Shapiro
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:19:29AM -0500, Michael Kahle wrote: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote: I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do it; there are lots of ways it can break. I have heard this m

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread David Gaudine
> and if ththeresroblem with MTMTApgrade ?:) True, now and then I have to count the subject lines to make sure all systems are accounted for. But it's still better than logging in to all the systems every day. I've been doing it on about 10 systems for about 2 years, and haven't had a lot of tro

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Ping Wing
--- David GaGaudinedadavidmemclaboconcordiaa> wrote: > > I know that this is not recommended. But I often > set up DeDebianachines > > for "friends" who have virtually no clue > whatsoever and no intentions > > of changing this. The machines are obviously not > very important but I > > want to prov

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread David Gaudine
> I know that this is not recommended. But I often set up Debian machines > for "friends" who have virtually no clue whatsoever and no intentions > of changing this. The machines are obviously not very important but I > want to provide at least a minimal level of security because if I do not > it w

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Ping Wing
> > In my opinion semi-automaticaly updates sound scary > itself... > > - Martin I agree, and I never use it. But still, even on manual updates , it can cause problem. cheers, http://www.axeltabs.com/ __ axel __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Ya

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 01:59:28PM -0700, Ping Wing wrote: > > Upgrades require interaction from time to time, such > > as conffile merges. > > Even with packages that use debconf, the defaults > > you get with the > > noninteractive frontend aren't always what you want. > > well but lets assume i

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Ping Wing
> Upgrades require interaction from time to time, such > as conffile merges. > Even with packages that use debconf, the defaults > you get with the > noninteractive frontend aren't always what you want. well but lets assume i have little router ticking somewhere. only sshd listening. If I configu

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Ping Wing
> Every Debian init.d script that starts a daemon says > something like > "Starting web server: apache." > some processes take long time to finish. slurpd hangs sometime mystically or takes long to finish. I think it could cause probelms if I start it again before its done. some scripts are ok

RE: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Michael Kahle
On Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:42 AM Colin Watson wrote: >On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:19:29AM -0500, Michael Kahle wrote: >> Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote: >>> I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do >>> it; there are lots of ways it can break. >> >>

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Michael Kahle: > Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote: > > I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do > > it; there are lots of ways it can break. > > I have heard this mentioned before. Could you elaborate? Why is this a > problem? Please e

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 10:19:29AM -0500, Michael Kahle wrote: > Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote: > > I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do > > it; there are lots of ways it can break. > > I have heard this mentioned before. Could you elaborate?

RE: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Michael Kahle
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote: > I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do > it; there are lots of ways it can break. I have heard this mentioned before. Could you elaborate? Why is this a problem? Please excuse my inexperience here. Michael --

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 11:14:12AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Ok, please forget _why_ I ask. The question remains - are the release > > codenames equivalent to "stable"/"testing" in sources.list? I dont > > You can safely use the codenames. Ok, thank you! > > And Greg, please think of machin

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Martin Fluch
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:38:33PM -0700, Ping Wing wrote: > frankly, the fact that debian puts 'stable' in source.list > automatically is littlebit scaring. For example when sarge is new > stable one day, and im doing another (semi-)automatic apt-get upgrade, > theres good chance that this messe

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 03:13:23AM +0200, Matthias Czapla wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 06:22:04PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 15:54, Matthias Czapla wrote: > > > Can I safely use "woody" or "sarge" instead of stable and testing for > > > the distribution specifier in /e

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:38:33PM -0700, Ping Wing wrote: > Matthias Czapla wrote: > > Can I safely use "woody" or "sarge" instead of stable and testing > > for the distribution specifier in /etc/apt/sources.list or can this > > cause trouble? Im afraid of an unwanted upgrade to a new > > distribu

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-18 Thread Ping Wing
> Sarge *SUDDENLY* becoming Stable. Don't make me > laugh. > > We aren't even into freeze yet. > > When that happens, then you should maybe worry about > that. it doesnt matter when it happen. I must read news every day, be prepared to change all my sources.list when it happens? thing is that

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-18 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 06:22:04PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 15:54, Matthias Czapla wrote: > > Can I safely use "woody" or "sarge" instead of stable and testing for > > the distribution specifier in /etc/apt/sources.list or can this cause > > trouble? Im afraid of an unwant

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-18 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 15:54, Matthias Czapla wrote: > Can I safely use "woody" or "sarge" instead of stable and testing for > the distribution specifier in /etc/apt/sources.list or can this cause > trouble? Im afraid of an unwanted upgrade to a new distribution when > testing suddenly becomes stabl

Re: woody/sarge vs. stable/testing in sources.list

2004-05-18 Thread Ping Wing
> Can I safely use "woody" or "sarge" instead of > stable and testing for > the distribution specifier in /etc/apt/sources.list > or can this cause > trouble? Im afraid of an unwanted upgrade to a new > distribution when > testing suddenly becomes stable. yes you can and imho it makse very much s

Re: woody -> sarge dist-upgrade woes

2004-04-16 Thread dircha
Jerry Spicklemire wrote: The following packages have unmet dependencies: e2fsprogs: PreDepends: libblkid1 (>= 1.34-1) but it is not installable PreDepends: libss2 (>= 1.34-1) but it is not installable PreDepends: libuuid1 (>= 1.34-1) but it is not installable coreutils

Re: woody -> sarge dist-upgrade woes

2004-04-16 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Jerry Spicklemire: > > Is there any way to back up in time to > a state where sarge is complete, and > therefore upgradable, even if it is > in a less than ideal state? I can always I'd suggest you backup /etc and $HOME and re-install, using woody/stable sources.list. Then if y

Re: WOODY/SARGE

2004-02-04 Thread James Tappin
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 13:29:41 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dr Gavin Seddon wrote: > > >Hello, > >I am having difficulty installing sarge due to hardware problems with > >its kernel. I can inst woody which will not 'recognise' the devices. > >Is it possible to use apt to install s

Re: WOODY/SARGE

2004-02-04 Thread Kent West
Dr Gavin Seddon wrote: Hello, I am having difficulty installing sarge due to hardware problems with its kernel. I can inst woody which will not 'recognise' the devices. Is it possible to use apt to install sarge? If so, how? I will worry about the kernel when sarge is running. Many thanks, Ga

Re: woody > sarge problems

2004-01-07 Thread B. L. Jilek
Hi Uwe! On Thu, 08 Jan 2004, Uwe Dippel wrote: > On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:57:11 +, Martin wrote: > > > Is there a way to get any version of kde running? > > Yes, always one or another. On Woody it does, I think on Sid it does. > Mine here is a relic of its root: KNOPPIX. Even if Sarge doesn't

Re: woody > sarge problems

2004-01-07 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:57:11 +, Martin wrote: > Is there a way to get any version of kde running? Yes, always one or another. On Woody it does, I think on Sid it does. Mine here is a relic of its root: KNOPPIX. Even if Sarge doesn't have it, it stays on through the dist-upgrade. -- To UNSU

Re: woody > sarge problems

2004-01-06 Thread Clive Menzies
On (06/01/04 19:19), Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:57:11PM -, Martin wrote: > > Is there a way to get any version of kde running? > > [Please don't send me private copies of mails to mailing lists; thanks.] > > 'kde' is just a metapackage. You should be able to install most

Re: woody > sarge problems

2004-01-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:57:11PM -, Martin wrote: > Is there a way to get any version of kde running? [Please don't send me private copies of mails to mailing lists; thanks.] 'kde' is just a metapackage. You should be able to install most of the bits of it independently. In unstable it has:

Re: woody > sarge problems

2004-01-06 Thread Martin
Is there a way to get any version of kde running? Martin. > Colin Watson wrote: > >>On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:47:39PM +, David S wrote: >> >> >>>OK Im a bit confused, can anyone tell me why KDE will not install from >>>sarge ? >>> >>> >> >>Because it's not working yet. This is a known probl

Re: woody > sarge problems

2004-01-06 Thread David S
Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:47:39PM +, David S wrote: OK Im a bit confused, can anyone tell me why KDE will not install from sarge ? Because it's not working yet. This is a known problem ... Ahhh !! Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Re: woody > sarge problems

2004-01-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:47:39PM +, David S wrote: > OK Im a bit confused, can anyone tell me why KDE will not install from > sarge ? Because it's not working yet. This is a known problem ... -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Hanasaki JiJi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List - Debian Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 21:25 Subject: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia > What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and >

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 08:07, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > Retraction/Correction/Apology > > > > (Hopefully this will get posted before others on the list "correct" me > > in my errors.) > > > > Kent West wrote: > > > >> In short, I came to despise nvidia, first for not releasin

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Kent West
Roberto Sanchez wrote: Kent West wrote: Retraction/Correction/Apology (Hopefully this will get posted before others on the list "correct" me in my errors.) Kent West wrote: In short, I came to despise nvidia, first for not releasing their [driver code/chipset specs] so that the Linux folks wh

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Kent West wrote: Retraction/Correction/Apology (Hopefully this will get posted before others on the list "correct" me in my errors.) Kent West wrote: In short, I came to despise nvidia, first for not releasing their [driver code/chipset specs] so that the Linux folks who know what they're doi

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 07:32, Kent West wrote: Eventually I took the Netgear (tulip) nic out of another box temporarily and put it in this box, tweaked my /etc/apt/sources.list to get rid of Reinstall from scratch with the tulip NIC in there from the begin- ning. [big snipp

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Kent West
Retraction/Correction/Apology (Hopefully this will get posted before others on the list "correct" me in my errors.) Kent West wrote: In short, I came to despise nvidia, first for not releasing their [driver code/chipset specs] so that the Linux folks who know what they're doing could package i

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 07:32, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:52, Kent West wrote: > > > >>Hanasaki JiJi wrote: > >> > >>>What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and > >>>sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? > >>> > >>>Which mobo chipsets ha

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:52, Kent West wrote: Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? Which mobo chipsets have you had good/bad experiences with? amd? nvidia? via? kt600? And with whi

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
Actually, the complete system specs and issues encountered would be very appreciated. Thanks Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:52, Kent West wrote: Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? Which mobo

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Albert Dengg
Hi well I use my asus a7v600 with success, though with sid...just be aware that you will need a recent kernel to correctly reconize the ide controller (if I remember correctly everything after 2.4.20 will do; I use 2.4.22 now). Be aware that I have not tested tho onboard sound functions and th

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-06 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:52, Kent West wrote: > Hanasaki JiJi wrote: > > What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and > > sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? > > > > Which mobo chipsets have you had good/bad experiences with? > > amd? > > nvidia? > > via? kt600?

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-05 Thread Kent West
Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? Which mobo chipsets have you had good/bad experiences with? amd? nvidia? via? kt600? And with which kernels? I guess the woody distribution kernel would need t

Re: woody/sarge on Barton MoBo? kt600 and/or which nvidia

2003-11-05 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Hanasaki JiJi wrote: What motherboards have people had success/failures with for woody and sarge and Bartons with a 400fsb? Which mobo chipsets have you had good/bad experiences with? amd? nvidia? via? kt600? And with which kernels? I guess the woody distribution kernel would need t

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-31 Thread stan
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 10:41:24PM -0400, Kevin McKinley wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:48:58 -0400 > Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hope this is helpful; sorry for being long-winded. > > No need for apology; that was a good explanation. > > Once you've identified which packages

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-30 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Thu, 29 May 2003 20:48:58 -0400 Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hope this is helpful; sorry for being long-winded. No need for apology; that was a good explanation. Once you've identified which packages apt can't deal with, you can hold them so dist-upgrade won't try to remove them

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-30 Thread Chris Metzler
On Thu, 29 May 2003 15:06:55 -0400 stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can't speak for unstable, but at the moment, testing is quite a mess > and has been for about 2 weeks. You can't use dselect with essentially > destroying your system, and hand apt-get upgrades give 100+ packages not > upgrade

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-30 Thread stan
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:14:27PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 18:49, Gezim H wrote: > [snip] > > On the other hand if I get > > sarge or sid is my system gonna crush often, how unstable is really sid? If > > I get sid, and I want to install gimp, with "apt-get install gimp"

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-30 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 18:49, Gezim H wrote: [snip] > On the other hand if I get > sarge or sid is my system gonna crush often, how unstable is really sid? If > I get sid, and I want to install gimp, with "apt-get install gimp" is it > gonna install gimp 1.3 (unstable)? Does sid use unstable pack

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-29 Thread fbrian
> I am confused as to what should I use; woody, sarge or sid? Right now I > have woody and I'm not pleased with it, because when I do "apt-get > install xchat" it gives me xchat 1.8.9 instead of 2.0.2 (or so), thus > it doesn't give me the lastest software out there, which I like. On > the othe

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-29 Thread N . Pauli
Zim, Get the "Apt-get HOW-TO" which can be found in the Documentation area of www.debian.org. It covers *exactly* those sorts of concerns. Basically, you can specify what your default distribution is and yet still specify that certain packages should be taken from another distribution. Nigel

Re: woody, sarge, or sid?

2003-05-29 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 00:49, Gezim H wrote: > I am confused as to what should I use; woody, sarge or sid? I have used all of stable, testnig and unstable at on time or the other. While testing extremely seldom has big problems, it is insecure (no fixes by security team) and you have to watch the

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 04:52:31PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:13:19PM +0100, Jeff Elkins insinuated: > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 7:12 pm, Hugh Saunders wrote: > > > i havent read all of this thread, but why not just using testing > > > or stable, why use all three?

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Paul Johnson
(Conserve bandwidth, trim quotes) On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:20:33PM -0200, Barry Rab wrote: > That said, is there anyway of backing out of this type of situation i.e. > getting back to Woody? Short answer: Yes. Long answer: You can work out downgrading by hand or reinstall. -- .''`. Ba

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 06:12:56PM +, Hugh Saunders wrote: > i havent read all of this thread, but why not just using testing or > stable, why use all three? Well, handy when you need to get an older version of package foo, in which you can apt-get install foo/testing or foo/stable -- .

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Seneca
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:20:33PM -0200, Barry Rab wrote: > Rick Macdonald wrote: > > >If you did "apt-get update" after changing sources.list, then the > >subsequent "apt-get dist-upgrade" has you running unstable, which is sid. > > > That said, is there anyway of backing out of this type of sit

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:13:19PM +0100, Jeff Elkins insinuated: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 7:12 pm, Hugh Saunders wrote: > > i havent read all of this thread, but why not just using testing > > or stable, why use all three? > > Initially, I was confused as to exactly what I was running. > > I

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 7:12 pm, Hugh Saunders wrote: > i havent read all of this thread, but why not just using testing or > stable, why use all three? Initially, I was confused as to exactly what I was running. I installed from Knoppix, which apparently results in a mixture of the three

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 09:57:04AM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Thanks for the tips. If something breaks, I can dual-boot back to RH, but I > haven't been spending much time there lately... i havent read all of this thread, but why not just using testing or stable, why use all three? I find stable

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Barry Rab
Rick Macdonald wrote: If you did "apt-get update" after changing sources.list, then the subsequent "apt-get dist-upgrade" has you running unstable, which is sid. That said, is there anyway of backing out of this type of situation i.e. getting back to Woody? Barry. by way of Jeff Elkins <[EMA

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Jeff Elkins
Thanks for the tips. If something breaks, I can dual-boot back to RH, but I haven't been spending much time there lately... Jeff Elkins On Wednesday 12 February 2003 7:26 am, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:10:03PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > > Thank you, Rick and Vineet. > > > > As

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 08:10:03PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > Thank you, Rick and Vineet. > > As a newbie, I appreciate your responses. > > I'm looking forwarding to exploring Debian. Be careful with sid; it's where all the development of Debian takes place, and it's undergoing quite a transiti

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 06:23:51PM +0100, Jeff Elkins wrote: > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free > So, am I now running Sid, Sarge, or WTF? Sid. This is Debian Unstable. It's all explain

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-11 Thread Jeff Elkins
Thank you, Rick and Vineet. As a newbie, I appreciate your responses. I'm looking forwarding to exploring Debian. Jeff Elkins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-11 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Jeff Elkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030211 15:36]: > I'm exploring Debian via the Koppix CD, which I installed to an empty > partition on my RedHat 8 box. > > After installation, I modified my /etc/apt/sources.list to point to: > > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free >

Re: Woody, Sarge, SID, WTF?

2003-02-11 Thread Rick Macdonald
If you did "apt-get update" after changing sources.list, then the subsequent "apt-get dist-upgrade" has you running unstable, which is sid. by way of Jeff Elkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Howdy List! > > I'm exploring Debian via the Koppix CD, which I installed to an empty > partition on my RedH