Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-15 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Kevin, Excerpt from Kevin Chadwick: -- -- >> libreoffice | 1:4.0.2~rc2-2 | experimental | source, amd64, >> armel, i386, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386 >> >> And yes, 4.0.x will also be in wheezy-backports when it's time for that. >> Using it from "unstable" is bad, becaus

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-15 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:54:17 +0200 Rene Engelhard wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:47:50AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > Personally I like the about two-year stable release schedule. It is > > > long enough > > > > I appreciate knowing that our setup will not break due to this but > >

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-15 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:47:50AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Personally I like the about two-year stable release schedule. It is > > long enough > > I appreciate knowing that our setup will not break due to this but > also compile and download various packages like libreoffice and > xfce-4

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-15 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Personally I like the about two-year stable release schedule. It is > long enough I appreciate knowing that our setup will not break due to this but also compile and download various packages like libreoffice and xfce-4.10. Now I would not expect libreoffice to be packaged but xfce-4.10 had a

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: > Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > Incidentally. I do wonder if debian stable should accelerate some > > packages which follow a more stable dev cycle like xfce-4.10 where it > > has already been well tested. > > Won't happen. That is what Debian Backports is for. > IMHO it is not

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 06:49:46PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Incidentally. I do wonder if debian stable should accelerate some > packages which follow a more stable dev cycle like xfce-4.10 where it > has already been well tested. Won't happen. That is what Debian Backports is for. IMHO it is

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-13 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Then again, if you build from source, you'll lose the automatic upgrade > feature provided by apt/aptitude. > > Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong. I believe so. There are some debian source building tools and mepis archives are usable perhaps best with pinning. I plan to experiment with th

Re: Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-13 Thread Clive Standbridge
> I do not mean building from source using configure & make, but creating > a debian package using source debian package from unstable with tools > like dpkg-buildpackage or uupdate. There's a handy guide to that (apart from the uupdate bit) at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
> Then again, if you build from source, you'll lose the automatic upgrade > feature provided by apt/aptitude. > > Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong. > > Thanks. > And if you take a package from unstable than you install the dependencies from unstable as well. And having automatic updates f

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Soare Catalin
On Apr 12, 2013 3:29 PM, "Alex Mestiashvili" wrote: > > On 04/12/2013 02:16 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Alex Mestiashvili > > wrote: > >> On 04/12/2013 01:33 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > >>> Is it possible to fine tune the package sources so as to use unstable > >>> on

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Lars Noodén
>>> I suggest to get the source packages instead and rebuild them for your >>> environment. Check first to see if it is in backports. If it is there that will save having to build it from source. Not everything is there, but if it is, it will save time. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 04/12/2013 02:16 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Alex Mestiashvili > wrote: >> On 04/12/2013 01:33 PM, Tom Browder wrote: >>> Is it possible to fine tune the package sources so as to use unstable >>> only for certain packages? > ... >> You can try it, but in most cases

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > On 04/12/2013 01:33 PM, Tom Browder wrote: >> Is it possible to fine tune the package sources so as to use unstable >> only for certain packages? ... > You can try it, but in most cases it is not a good idea. > > Most of the packages have

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 04/12/2013 01:33 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > Is it possible to fine tune the package sources so as to use unstable > only for certain packages? > > Best regards, > > -Tom > > You can try it, but in most cases it is not a good idea. Most of the packages have dependencies which are not availab

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:38 AM, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > Le Ven 12 avril 2013 13:33, Tom Browder a écrit : >> Is it possible to fine tune the package sources so as to use unstable >> only for certain packages? ... > The technique is named apt-pinning, you can find some documentation here: > http

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Lars Noodén
On 4/12/13 2:33 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > Is it possible to fine tune the package sources so as to use unstable > only for certain packages? > > Best regards, > > -Tom If the package you want is not in backports, then you could try apt-pinning: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences Reg

Re: Using unstable for certain packages

2013-04-12 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Ven 12 avril 2013 13:33, Tom Browder a écrit : > Is it possible to fine tune the package sources so as to use unstable > only for certain packages? > > Best regards, Sure. The technique is named apt-pinning, you can find some documentation here: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences -- To U