Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-05-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Brian Ryans wrote: > Quoting Camaleón on 2011-04-23 05:44: >> Nowadays it should handle smb:// or other network protocol just the same > > Quoting Erwan David on 2011-04-23 08:48: (re: Camaleón) >> Prgrams that I know which do this (eg emacs with tramp editing) use

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-05-27 Thread Brian Ryans
Quoting Camaleón on 2011-04-23 05:44: > Nowadays it should handle smb:// or other network protocol just the same Quoting Erwan David on 2011-04-23 08:48: (re: Camaleón) > Prgrams that I know which do this (eg emacs with tramp editing) use a > temporary copy on local file. And it is the applicaton

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 25, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-25, Hal Vaughan wrote: > --- SNIP --- >> >> On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> > --- SNIP --- >>> Are you in a position to put a web server on the machine which offers >>> the network share? That would allow you to

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-25, Hal Vaughan wrote: --- SNIP --- > > On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > --- SNIP --- >> Are you in a position to put a web server on the machine which offers >> the network share? That would allow you to serve up a .jnlp file and its >> associated JAR file in a simple

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 17:05:08 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-25, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> If I place the "test.jnlp" file locally it can be run (it fails because >> it looks for a signature file that seems to be missed from the original >> jar but anyway it recognizes the JAR and tries t

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 25, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-25, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:33:45 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> >>> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: >> >> (...) >> > Once the user "trusts" the application, the local JVM will load and > run the JAR file ex

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 25, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:33:45 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > >> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > Once the user "trusts" the application, the local JVM will load and run the JAR file exactly as if it had originally resided on the

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 25, 2011, at 6:15 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-25, Hal Vaughan wrote: > --- SNIP --- >> A couple points here. I checked the source code for the Dynamic Tree Demo >> that is used as a JNLP demo. Now I will admit I haven't been using Java for >> a couple years and have some catc

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-25, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:33:45 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > >> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > Once the user "trusts" the application, the local JVM will load and run the JAR file exactly as if it had originally resided on the local hard dri

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:33:45 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> Once the user "trusts" the application, the local JVM will load and >>> run the JAR file exactly as if it had originally resided on the local >>> hard drive. >> >> Yes, but not all java application

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-25 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-25, Hal Vaughan wrote: --- SNIP --- > A couple points here. I checked the source code for the Dynamic Tree Demo > that is used as a JNLP demo. Now I will admit I haven't been using Java for > a couple years and have some catching up to do (I think I was using Java 5, > but know I'v

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Hal Vaughan
Liam, I've read your posts on this thread, but I'm replying in kind of a reverse order -- or skipping the earlier ones if my comments on those make it in here. On Apr 24, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:08:47 +, Liam O'Toole

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:08:47 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > >> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: > Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start. It is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP file[1]. >>> >>> Yes

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 18:08:47 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: >>> Java technology offers a standard way of doing that: Java Web Start. >>> It is possible to deploy a third-party application using a JNLP >>> file[1]. >> >> Yes but no, that's a completely different appro

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:02:19 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > >> On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: >>> I have a jar file (the application is a fax client for HylaFAX) that >>> needs to be accessed/launched over the network because by doing so I >>> only have to update one

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 10:16:15 +, Camaleón wrote: >> I think Linux might give better control over things like permissions. >> In my case, the server will be running Debian 6.x. > > Now you mention... I've got a samba share on a Debian server (this is in > another network), and windows clients a

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:28:01AM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 01:03:00PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >> I now know I can use smbclient to read files on an SMB share without > >> having to mount it, but I need to do mo

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:02:19 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: >> I have a jar file (the application is a fax client for HylaFAX) that >> needs to be accessed/launched over the network because by doing so I >> only have to update one file and then all the clients are auto

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-04-24, Camaleón wrote: > I have a jar file (the application is a fax client for HylaFAX) that > needs to be accessed/launched over the network because by doing so I only > have to update one file and then all the clients are automatically > updated. Java technology offers a standard wa

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 00:13:17 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> I still don't know if it's a security measure or just a technical >> barrier that needs the use of another applications to be bypassed. In >> fact, I can run a ".jar" file over "smb://" using

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 23, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 01:03:00PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: >> I now know I can use smbclient to read files on an SMB share without having >> to mount it, but I need to do more than that. >> >> I want to be able to access either Java classes or a

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 04/23/2011 12:59 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: >> I'm also looking into creating a temporary mount point and deleting when >> it's done, but if there's a crash or something, that temporary mount point >> would remain, unless I put it in /t

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 23, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:04:20 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >> On Apr 23, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Camaleón wrote: > Does Java handle the SMB protocol on its own? I know I can't list a directory that way with ls, even with the Samba client packag

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 01:03:00PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I now know I can use smbclient to read files on an SMB share without having > to mount it, but I need to do more than that. > > I want to be able to access either Java classes or an executable on a shared > volume on a server without

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 04/23/2011 12:59 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: I'm also looking into creating a temporary mount point and deleting when it's done, but if there's a crash or something, that temporary mount point would remain, unless I put it in /tmp or something radical like that. Couldn't you copy the file inste

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 23, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 04/23/2011 12:04 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: >> I don't have to use SMB, I could have the server use NFS as well, but I >> can't find anything about reading an NFS share unless it's mounted. As best >> I can tell, unless you use a program

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:04:20 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Apr 23, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Does Java handle the SMB protocol on its own? I know I can't list a >>> directory that way with ls, even with the Samba client package >>> installed. >> >> Good question. >> >> Nowadays it

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 04/23/2011 12:04 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote: I don't have to use SMB, I could have the server use NFS as well, but I can't find anything about reading an NFS share unless it's mounted. As best I can tell, unless you use a program like smbclient, scp, ftp, or rsync, there is no way to read any net

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 23, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:42:56 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >> On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:03:00 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network sha

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Erwan David
On 23/04/11 12:44, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:42:56 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >> On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:03:00 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: >>> >>> (...) >>> I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:42:56 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:03:00 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: >> >> (...) >> >>> I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which >>> could be SMB or NFS (or something else) with

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Hal Vaughan wrote: Does Java handle the SMB protocol on its own? I know I can't list a directory that way with ls, even with the Samba client package installed. Yeah, I tried that too. I was thinking if I could list the files, then I might try to do a symbolic link. It seems odd that

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:56 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:03:00 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > (...) > >> I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which could >> be SMB or NFS (or something else) without mounting the volume. For >> example, if I'm on System A and

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 13:03:00 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: (...) > I need a way, on Linux, to access files on a network share, which could > be SMB or NFS (or something else) without mounting the volume. For > example, if I'm on System A and I have an executable on System B, and > it's on a network

Re: Using Files Without Mounting A Share From Another System

2011-04-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Hal Vaughan put forth on 4/22/2011 12:03 PM: > I now know I can use smbclient to read files on an SMB share without having > to mount it, but I need to do more than that. > > I want to be able to access either Java classes or an executable on a shared > volume on a server without having to mount