Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-17 Thread Chen Wei
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 10:37:58AM -0600, Glenn Holmer wrote: > On 02/16/2017 10:34 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: > > On 16/02/2017 14:50, Hans wrote: > > Ok, now I'm trying back-in-time. After some setting up, it's working and > > copying 60+ GB from my Home to the external usb3 drive. And it's quite

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 21:26, Glenn English wrote: > No. I've never used it, but a friend of mine does. And it takes forever > for him to do a backup. So I assumed it was dd. Maybe it's that other > OS X disk clone 'backup.' > > But when he's done, he doesn't have an incremental backup, just a clone. > Be

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:43:27AM +0100, Francesco Porro wrote: > On 16/02/2017 03:39, Martin McCormick wrote: > > I use rsnapshot. > > Very nice one! This has what I was looking for, indeed there's a link in > the main page to the article that I posted before. I'll give it a try, > for sure

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: > > Are you sure? No. I've never used it, but a friend of mine does. And it takes forever for him to do a backup. So I assumed it was dd. Maybe it's that other OS X disk clone 'backup.' But when he's done, he doesn't have an incremental

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 18:27, Glenn English wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Francesco Porro > wrote: > > > When I was on Mac OS X, several years ago, I used to use CCC (carbon > copy cloner) which I liked a lot, and never found any similar on PC > (Win

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 17:33, Erwan David wrote: >> I've already tried the latter before, when I was on Ubuntu (it comes >> preinstalled in ubuntu). The thing I didn't like too much of deja-dup >> was the inability to set a threshold for the backups to keep. I mean: i >> wasn't able to say: hey, keep N back

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 17:36, Boyan Penkov wrote: > > > On 02/16/2017 11:27 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: >> On 16/02/2017 15:03, Boyan Penkov wrote: >>> I similarly found this to be a pain, and then decided to wrap a few >>> calls to duplicity-clean, and --keep-all-but-N in a shell script that >>> gets anac

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:42 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: > > When I was on Mac OS X, several years ago, I used to use CCC (carbon > copy cloner) which I liked a lot, and never found any similar on PC > (Win/Linux). > That would be dd (CLI). I believe that's what's under the CCC GUI on OS-X. --

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 14:50, Hans wrote: > Yes, of course. I did not see, that you meant "daily backups". For daily > backups try "back-in-time", it is nicely configurable and is based on rsync > and > some other tools. And you can configure time based backups and restores. Yes I forgot to say some det

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Erwan David
Le 02/16/2017 à 15:01, Francesco Porro a écrit : > On 16/02/2017 14:45, Boyan Penkov wrote: >> >> On 02/16/2017 08:33 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: >>> >>> If I'm not wrong, this one is based on "dup" and works the same way? >> >> I don't think so; which "dup" are you referring to? -- the most I know

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 02/16/2017 10:34 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: > On 16/02/2017 14:50, Hans wrote: > Ok, now I'm trying back-in-time. After some setting up, it's working and > copying 60+ GB from my Home to the external usb3 drive. And it's quite fast! I've been using backintime for years and am very satisfied wit

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 15:03, Boyan Penkov wrote: > I similarly found this to be a pain, and then decided to wrap a few > calls to duplicity-clean, and --keep-all-but-N in a shell script that > gets anacron'd... Well this is the workaround! :) I'll try it later. Thanks! -- fp pgp: 0x45399C26

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 February 2017 05:08:34 Francesco Porro wrote: > On 16/02/2017 01:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Very simple: amanda > > Well, Amanda looks a bit too complex for my typical home needs, and > seems to me more server,centralized-backup oriented. However it seems > also very powerful and f

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 14:45, Boyan Penkov wrote: > > On 02/16/2017 08:33 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: >> >> If I'm not wrong, this one is based on "dup" and works the same way? > > I don't think so; which "dup" are you referring to? -- the most I know > is that DejaDup is a GTK front-end for it. Oh sorry,

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 02:24:11PM +0100, Francesco Porro wrote: > On 16/02/2017 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Now if you are talking about "Real Snapshots" (i.e. files don't change > > during backup and stuff) > > > With rsync you'll always have

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Hans
> Hi, I've used Clonezilla a couple of months ago for cloning my sister's > Windows partition. But perhaps this tools is more recommended for > cloning disks/partitions than for a daily backup. Yes, of course. I did not see, that you meant "daily backups". For daily backups try "back-in-time",

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
On 02/16/2017 08:33 AM, Francesco Porro wrote: > > If I'm not wrong, this one is based on "dup" and works the same way? > I don't think so; which "dup" are you referring to? -- the most I know is that DejaDup is a GTK front-end for it. -- Boyan Penkov www.boyanpenkov.com signature.asc Desc

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 12:18, Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Hi, Francesco Hi Daniel > Another alternative could be to use Dirvish. As stated in Dirvish' website: «Dirvish is a fast, disk based, rotating network backup system. With dirvish you can maintain a set of complete images of your filesystems with unat

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 13:14, Boyan Penkov wrote: > http://duplicity.nongnu.org/ > > I use it on remote backups when I don’t trust the destination > (therefore, all encryption happens locally), and on local-to-local > copies (copy home to, say, another partition). > > About the only caveat is it cannon to

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 12:23, Hans wrote:> Has anybody already mentioned "clonezilla"? > > Just usefull in case at also physical defects. Hi, I've used Clonezilla a couple of months ago for cloning my sister's Windows partition. But perhaps this tools is more recommended for cloning disks/partitions than

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 12:04, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Now if you are talking about "Real Snapshots" (i.e. files don't change > during backup and stuff) > With rsync you'll always have some skew (i.e. the world is changing > while the backup is running). Well, with the word "snapshot" I meant a "dump" of

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Boyan Penkov
http://duplicity.nongnu.org/ I use it on remote backups when I don’t trust the destination (therefore, all encryption happens locally), and on local-to-local copies (copy home to, say, another partition). About the only caveat is it cannon to synthetic fulls on th

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Hans
Has anybody already mentioned "clonezilla"? Just usefull in case at also physical defects. Best Hans

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Francesco On 15/02/17 19:37, Francesco Porro wrote: > Hi guys, It's the first time I'm posting here. I'm both a Fedora and > Debian user. > > Which backup tool do you use? > At this time I feel comfortable with rsync, which I use to sync my home > to an external Usb drive. No automation, no

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 11:44:32AM +0100, Francesco Porro wrote: > > > On 16/02/2017 09:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > rsync. > > > > To a LUKS-encrypted USB drive (my laptop's drive is LUKS, so it seemed > > to be a majot weak point to have all on

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
Sorry guys, I'm new to mailings list so I made a little mess sending replies first to you mailbox and than to the correct mailinglist address, resulting in two copies... -- fp pgp: 0x45399C26

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 09:15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > rsync. > > To a LUKS-encrypted USB drive (my laptop's drive is LUKS, so it seemed > to be a majot weak point to have all on an unencrpted thumb I could lose > anytime ;-) > [cut] that's very similar to my current backup-style, I use rsync with a lot

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 06:44, solitone wrote: > I'm happy with backup2l [1]. It's very simple to configure, supports > incremental backups, and it's fully automated. A bit of configuration is required but it seems ok and easy enough! > I also like it because it is simple to extract specific files you ma

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
On 16/02/2017 03:39, Martin McCormick wrote: > I use rsnapshot. Very nice one! This has what I was looking for, indeed there's a link in the main page to the article that I posted before. I'll give it a try, for sure! Thank you Martin! -- fp pgp: 0x45399C26

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread Francesco Porro
Hi Greg! On 15/02/2017 23:42, Greg Wooledge wrote: > Why? What do you want to do that your existing solution doesn't do? > Just swapping out a working solution for something more complex without > some compelling reason is not a good idea. Two reason: 1) In my home environment I'd like to test

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:37:40PM +0100, Francesco Porro wrote: > Hi guys, It's the first time I'm posting here. I'm both a Fedora and > Debian user. > > Which backup tool do you use? > At this time I feel comfortable with rsync [...] rsync. To a L

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-15 Thread solitone
On Wednesday, 15 February 2017 23:37:40 CET Francesco Porro wrote: > Which backup tool do you use? I'm happy with backup2l [1]. It's very simple to configure, supports incremental backups, and it's fully automated. Here you can find a short guide [2]. I also like it because it is simple to ext

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-15 Thread Martin McCormick
I use rsnapshot. I have 4 128 GB thumb drives that are combined in to 1 large drive with the idea of backing up the system I do most tinkering on on a daily basis for a year and then I swap out the drives with other drives so that the year just completed gets stored and the new drives start

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 15 February 2017 17:37:40 Francesco Porro wrote: > Hi guys, It's the first time I'm posting here. I'm both a Fedora and > Debian user. > > Which backup tool do you use? > At this time I feel comfortable with rsync, which I use to sync my > home to an external Usb drive. No automation,

Re: User-oriented backup tools

2017-02-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:37:40PM +0100, Francesco Porro wrote: > At this time I feel comfortable with rsync, which I use to sync my home > to an external Usb drive. No automation, no scheduling for now. I just > launch rsync from the command line and let it backup all the stuff when > I need it.