On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 07:32:15PM -0400, David Clymer wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 08:45, John Hasler wrote:
> > Adam Funk quotes:
> > > Eric Raymond, "The Art of UNIX Programming", chapter "What UNIX Gets
> > > Wrong": "Unix files have no structure above byte level."
> >
> > Eric is wrong. Th
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 08:45, John Hasler wrote:
> Adam Funk quotes:
> > Eric Raymond, "The Art of UNIX Programming", chapter "What UNIX Gets
> > Wrong": "Unix files have no structure above byte level."
>
> Eric is wrong. This not a bug. This is a major feature.
For those of us who are not intim
Adam Funk quotes:
> Eric Raymond, "The Art of UNIX Programming", chapter "What UNIX Gets
> Wrong": "Unix files have no structure above byte level."
Eric is wrong. This not a bug. This is a major feature.
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On Tuesday 20 April 2004 15:50, John Hasler wrote:
> Adam Funk writes:
>> Yes, but -T and -B tests in Perl know the difference [between text
>> and binary files].
>
> They guess, using heuristics. Both return true on an empty file.
I know that any *n*x file is just a list of bytes. [1] I was j
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 19:30, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:10:30PM +, Adam Funk wrote:
> | On Tuesday 20 April 2004 16:50, John Hasler wrote:
> |
> | > Ciaran writes:
> | >> The file command uses magic to figure it out. Is that any better?
> | >
> | > The point
Incoming from Dragan Cvetkovic:
> Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tuesday 20 April 2004 16:50, John Hasler wrote:
> >
> >> Ciaran writes:
> >>> The file command uses magic to figure it out. Is that any better?
> >>
> >> The point is that there are no "text files": just files that h
on Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 11:30:13AM +0100, Ciaran Johnston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Karsten M. Self said:
> > on Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 07:20:30PM +1000, Nathan Stanley
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >> Someone recently told me there is a difference between Unix and Linux
> >> text file formats.
Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 20 April 2004 16:50, John Hasler wrote:
>
>> Ciaran writes:
>>> The file command uses magic to figure it out. Is that any better?
>>
>> The point is that there are no "text files": just files that happen to
>> contain text. This not true of all
"Nathan Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Someone recently told me there is a difference between Unix and Linux text
> file formats. Is this true?
Not that I have experienced.
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:10:30PM +, Adam Funk wrote:
| On Tuesday 20 April 2004 16:50, John Hasler wrote:
|
| > Ciaran writes:
| >> The file command uses magic to figure it out. Is that any better?
| >
| > The point is that there are no "text files": just files that happen to
| > contain te
On Tuesday 20 April 2004 16:50, John Hasler wrote:
> Ciaran writes:
>> The file command uses magic to figure it out. Is that any better?
>
> The point is that there are no "text files": just files that happen to
> contain text. This not true of all operating systems.
You mean the traditional Ma
Ciaran writes:
> The file command uses magic to figure it out. Is that any better?
The point is that there are no "text files": just files that happen to
contain text. This not true of all operating systems.
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Dragan Cvetkovic said:
> Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Tuesday 20 April 2004 13:50, John Hasler wrote:
>>
>>> Ciaran writes:
Karsten probably answered the question you meant to ask, not the
question you did ask
>>>
>>> And the pendantically correct answer is that Unix and
Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 20 April 2004 13:50, John Hasler wrote:
>
>> Ciaran writes:
>>> Karsten probably answered the question you meant to ask, not the
>>> question you did ask
>>
>> And the pendantically correct answer is that Unix and Linux do not
>> have
>> text fil
Adam Funk writes:
> Yes, but -T and -B tests in Perl know the difference [between text and
> binary files].
They guess, using heuristics. Both return true on an empty file.
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On Tuesday 20 April 2004 13:50, John Hasler wrote:
> Ciaran writes:
>> Karsten probably answered the question you meant to ask, not the
>> question you did ask
>
> And the pendantically correct answer is that Unix and Linux do not
> have
> text files. All Unix/Linux files are binary.
Yes, but -
Ciaran writes:
> Karsten probably answered the question you meant to ask, not the question
> you did ask
And the pendantically correct answer is that Unix and Linux do not have
text files. All Unix/Linux files are binary.
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Karsten M. Self said:
> on Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 07:20:30PM +1000, Nathan Stanley
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> Someone recently told me there is a difference between Unix and Linux
>> text file formats. Is this true?
>
> Yes, ours goes to 11.
>
> Wait. Wrong mockumentary.
>
>
> CR vs. CR+LF
>
>
on Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 07:20:30PM +1000, Nathan Stanley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Someone recently told me there is a difference between Unix and Linux
> text file formats. Is this true?
Yes, ours goes to 11.
Wait. Wrong mockumentary.
CR vs. CR+LF
# aptitude install sysutils
# man d
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