[SUMMARY] Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-09-13 Thread Max Nikulin
Avoid setting non-standard GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR in /etc/default/grub if you use Debian 12 bookworm with enabled Secure Boot and signed grub image from Debian. Alternatively install grub-2.12 from backports. On 23/08/2024 11:39, Felix Miata wrote: I don't know what vexing secure boot might introdu

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/08/2024 23:42, Felix Miata wrote: Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-30 23:09 (UTC+0700): How does grubx64.efi find where grub.cfg is located? I don't know what doc might report this, but in a file viewer I see a string like (,gpt7)/boot/grub) embedded in a vast sea of nulls 98% of the wa

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-30 23:09 (UTC+0700): > How does grubx64.efi find where grub.cfg is located? I don't know what doc might report this, but in a file viewer I see a string like (,gpt7)/boot/grub) embedded in a vast sea of nulls 98% of the way into the file. -- Evolution as taught i

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-30 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/08/2024 11:39, Felix Miata wrote: I don't know what vexing secure boot might introduce, but without it, GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= was used by grub-install in Trixie here to produce results I expected: [...] # grep TOR /etc/default/grub GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="debian13" [...] ├── debian13 │   └── grub

[SUMMARY] Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/08/2024 16:44, Felix Miata wrote: That is written by any process that reads GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= to determine where to do its writing on the ESP. To avoid confusion of those who may notice this thread in search engine results: In Debian GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR value is *not* passed to "grub-inst

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-22 22:56 (UTC+0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> # ls -gG/boot/efi/EFI/opensusetw/ >> total 148 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 151552 Aug 21 16:08 grubx64.efi > Am I right that you either do not use Secure Boot or generated a local > key instead of/in addition to Microsoft and SUSE

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/08/2024 16:44, Felix Miata wrote: # ls -gG/boot/efi/EFI/opensusetw/ total 148 -rwxr-xr-x 1 151552 Aug 21 16:08 grubx64.efi Am I right that you either do not use Secure Boot or generated a local key instead of/in addition to Microsoft and SUSE ones? In the case of default or almost defa

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-22 Thread Felix Miata
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-22 10:17 (UTC+0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> My BBS menu contains 4 entries corresponding to output from efibootmgr, >> with the highlight on the one beginning "opensusetw", as configured via >> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=. > Or it just coincides with the configured value.

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/08/2024 05:21, Felix Miata wrote: My BBS menu contains 4 entries corresponding to output from efibootmgr, with the highlight on the one beginning "opensusetw", as configured via GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=. Or it just coincides with the configured value. My expectation is that EFI/opensusetw/grub.

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 23:17 (UTC+0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): >>> I was experimenting trying to get 2 >>> entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found >>> it tricky and inconvenient. >> How so? I fo

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > Have I missed something or GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR affects *grub* menu, but not > *UEFI* boot menu? Indeed, it is not just as simple as that. >I still suspect it is a UEFI+SecureBoot design > shortcoming that it is not possible to install the same loader

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/08/2024 11:25, Felix Miata wrote: Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): I was experimenting trying to get 2 entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found it tricky and inconvenient. How so? I found it quite simple to edit /etc/default/grub and re

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:45:05 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > > Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)? > > There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB. > > > I was responding to > > "AIUI > > UEFI/GPT were designed t

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-20 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)? There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB. > I was responding to "AIUI > UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot". Yes, and so was I. If you want half a dozen different GRU

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-20 Thread Felix Miata
Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): > I was experimenting trying to get 2 > entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found > it tricky and inconvenient. How so? I found it quite simple to edit /etc/default/grub and replace the default value of GRUB_DIS

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/08/2024 22:50, Nicolas George wrote: Max Nikulin (12024-08-20): Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions. This is not true. The only problem you will have with this setup is that you will need to in

Re: UEFI multiboot

2024-08-20 Thread gene heskett
On 8/20/24 12:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM Nicolas George wrote: [...] EFI files are signed for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be easily adjusted. Secure boot is a joke when it comes to security, it

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > [...] > > EFI files are signed > > for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be easily adjusted. > > Secure boot is a joke when it comes to security, its only “merit” is to > prevent l

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (12024-08-20): > Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but > not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions. This is not true. The only problem you will have with this setup is that you will need to install and/or configure the bootloader manua

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 05:17:43PM CEST, Max Nikulin said: > On 20/08/2024 11:27, David Christensen wrote: > > AIUI UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot > > Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but > not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions