On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 01:31:57AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:32 -0400, Douglas A Tutty
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Here's my personal letter template. I copy it to the correct file
> > name, edit it, then latex it. The letter text itself is just plain
>
On Tuesday 25 September 2007 10:16, Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> I do not see this as the case. I took your suggested to google on
> those terms and what I found in the first 3 pages of hits were many, many
> "Open Source" solutions which were Windows only, pared down versions of
> enterprise solutio
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:51:04AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:32 -0400, Douglas A Tutty
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> >
> >>Here's my personal letter template. ...
>
> Thanks, those give me a nice starting poin
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:39:55 -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
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> On Sep 25, 2007, at 7:17 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>
>> David Brodbeck writes:
>>> TeX is awesome for writing books and scientific papers. If you're
>>> writing a letter to Grandma, though, OpenOffice is better suited.
>>
>> Now _that_
On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:51:04AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
LaTeX is really a godsend for geeks like me with poor artistic
skills. It gives me a set of nice, safe, acceptable-looking layouts
so I don't have to worry about fonts and margins. I no longer long
for the days when it was acc
On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:31 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:32 -0400, Douglas A Tutty
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
Here's my personal letter template. ...
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Thanks, those give me a nice starting point.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:32 -0400, Douglas A Tutty
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Here's my personal letter template. I copy it to the correct file
> name, edit it, then latex it. The letter text itself is just plain
> text.
> \documentclass[letterpaper,12pt]{article}
> %preamble here
> \begin
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:39:55AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> On Sep 25, 2007, at 7:17 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>
> >David Brodbeck writes:
> >>TeX is awesome for writing books and scientific papers. If you're
> >>writing a letter to Grandma, though, OpenOffice is better suited.
> >
> >Now _tha
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On 09/25/07 18:05, David Brodbeck wrote:
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> On Sep 24, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> I use XEMacs daily to produce LaTeX documents. I have frequent need
>> to search my archives of material I have written in the past, and I
>> use gr
* Rob Mahurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070926 16:42]:
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:39:55AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > Looking at my copy of 'The Not So Short Introduction To LaTeX,' it's
> > not clear to me what document class I'd use [for a letter].
>
> For some reason that book omits the LaTeX
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:39:55AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> Looking at my copy of 'The Not So Short Introduction To LaTeX,' it's
> not clear to me what document class I'd use [for a letter].
For some reason that book omits the LaTeX "letter" class.
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David Brodbeck wrote:
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> On Sep 25, 2007, at 7:17 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>
>> David Brodbeck writes:
>>> TeX is awesome for writing books and scientific papers. If you're
>>> writing a letter to Grandma, though, OpenOffice is better suited.
>>
>> N
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David Brodbeck wrote:
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> On Sep 25, 2007, at 7:17 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>
>> David Brodbeck writes:
>>> TeX is awesome for writing books and scientific papers. If you're
>>> writing a letter to Grandma, though, OpenOffice is better suited.
>>
>> N
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:39:55AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
Depends on your perspective, I guess. It just feels like by the time
I get all the preliminary verbiage TeX needs typed out, I could have
written the whole letter in OO
Once of the good things about TeX is that you only need to
On Sep 25, 2007, at 7:17 PM, John Hasler wrote:
David Brodbeck writes:
TeX is awesome for writing books and scientific papers. If you're
writing a letter to Grandma, though, OpenOffice is better suited.
Now _that_ sounds like driving a semi truck to the supermarket to
pick up a
bottle of
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:45:11 -0700
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know what you meant. But you are flatly ignoring my
> requirement for syncing. I make an edit on Machine A and
> toss-a-tarball onto whatever machine(s) I decide. Then I make an
> edit on Machine B and do the same.
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, Manoj Srivastava shared this with us all:
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>--} > On Sep 24, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
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David Brodbeck writes:
> TeX is awesome for writing books and scientific papers. If you're
> writing a letter to Grandma, though, OpenOffice is better suited.
Now _that_ sounds like driving a semi truck to the supermarket to pick up a
bottle of milk.
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:05:53 -0700, David Brodbeck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Sep 24, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> I use XEMacs daily to produce LaTeX documents. I have frequent need
>> to search my archives of material I have written in the past, and I
>> use grep for this
On Sep 24, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
I use XEMacs daily to produce LaTeX documents. I have frequent need
to search my archives of material I have written in the past, and I
use grep for this purpose. It is difficult for me to imagine an
advantage offered by OpenOffice which wo
Andrei Popescu schrieb:
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:57:35PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
Not having to learn LaTeX would be the head of my list. While I am sure
it is a fine and dandy language for what it does and I know there are people
who have produced some nice text using it I do not wish
Miles Fidelman wrote:
> It was sort of disappointing to see a discussion that has focused
> primarily on version control tools, and a little on TeX vs. Word vs.
> Open Office issues.
This is D-U where the relative geek level is high. We're going to tend
towards the technical solutions over th
Folks,
I share some of the original writers interest in finding a good document
management tool.
It was sort of disappointing to see a discussion that has focused
primarily on version control tools, and a little on TeX vs. Word vs.
Open Office issues.
There are a huge number of document an
Ron Johnson wrote:
> Do you happen to have a bug number?
I do not. I found several references on the OOo forums when searching for
methods of setting my documents to uncompressed for use with Subversion.
On the bright side Mercurial does have a FAQ about using Mercurial with
OOo document
Jochen Schulz wrote:
> What does Subversion have to do with Perl?
Huh... For some reason I was under the impression it was written in Perl.
It is not, it is written in C. So, uhm... that changes it to "Eww, C!"
:) Mea culpa.
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On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:00:28AM -0400, Neil Watson wrote:
> With TeX and LaTeX and its ilk the templates actually work. I can use
> the same template for all of my reports and they always look the same.
> There are no annoying format inconsistencies that are so common with
> Word and OpenOffice
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On 09/24/07 21:10, Steve Lamb wrote:
[snip]
>
> One I think that will go unfulfilled. First off Word suffers from the
> same problem. I found out the hard way on one of my scripting projects. So
> there's precedent. The second reason is that O
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:57:35PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
I use XEMacs daily to produce LaTeX documents. I have frequent need
to search my archives of material I have written in the past, and I
use grep for this purpose. It is difficult for me to imagine an
advantage offered by OpenOffice whi
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:57:35PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Not having to learn LaTeX would be the head of my list. While I am sure
> it is a fine and dandy language for what it does and I know there are people
> who have produced some nice text using it I do not wish to learn a third
> co
Steve Lamb:
>
> However the decision came down to one factor which I did not list. When I
> was reviewing SVN one thing popped into my head over and over, "Why Perl!?"
What does Subversion have to do with Perl?
(Not that I think your decision is wrong, I just don't know what you're
referrin
* Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070925 00:07]:
> You do realize that the document format we're talking about is an
> OASIS open document standard, right?
>
> http://www.oasis-open.org/home/index.php
My error.
RLH
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Osamu Aoki wrote:
> I hear hg (Mercurial at http://www.selenic.com/mercurial/ ) is better on
> Windows as modern distributed VCS than git. Both of these are good if
> you want to record revision off-line and sync with server occasionally.
> But these are new...
Just for the record for those w
Russell L. Harris wrote:
> As a writer and programmer, it appears to me that it is OpenOffice --
> rather than SVN -- which is unsuited for the application which is the
> basis for this thread.
While I do agree that OOo seems to be the culprit here I do not follow you
down the same path of rea
* Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070924 23:21]:
> First off Word suffers from the same problem. I found out the hard
> way on one of my scripting projects. So there's precedent. The
> second reason is that OOo developers have stated, many times, that
> the format's not designed to be manipulat
Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 09/24/07 11:02, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>> Ron, why you are so negative on OOo?
> Negative? Hardly. I'm just wishing for new features, that's all.
Like text to columns in Calc without resorting to a plugin? Seems like a
no-brainer. :/
>> But it is long 1 line XML file w
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On 09/24/07 11:02, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:50:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 09/24/07 02:13, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 04:29:46PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> [snip]
The proble
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 02:50:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 09/24/07 02:13, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 04:29:46PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> >> The problem being that you won't get proper
> >> diffs between versions where you've only ch
I'm coming into this conversation late, but judging my the subject line
of your email, I'm guessing that this tool might be helpful.
http://www.knowledgetree.com/try-now
Someone in my LUG uses it for his company, and he seems to be very
pleased with it. The open source version, he says, does
Ron Johnson wrote:
> It's too bad that OOo doesn't let you specify "uncompressed" as a
> document attribute. Or even have a "directory-as-document" mode.
That would be the best of both worlds. KOffice does allow such a thing
for OASIS documents. However from what I've read it is not as adep
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On 09/24/07 02:13, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 04:29:46PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[snip]
>
>> The problem being that you won't get proper
>> diffs between versions where you've only changes a few words. I don't
>>
> I have been using Subversion for this very application for several
> years; it works well.
Most revision control systems will do the job. And most of the post-CVS
revision control systems (other than Subversion) also allow you to commit
locally before sending the commit to the remote server. T
Hi,
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 04:29:46PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:26:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing
> > project.
> > Being a programmer my first instinct is to use something
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 04:29:46PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 2) ISTM that it would be darn straightforward to get a VCS to handle
>zip files properly -- unzipping the current repo version and
>comparing to the new incoming version and then zipping the whole thing
>up. I know
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:26:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing project.
> Being a programmer my first instinct is to use something along the lines of
> rcs/cvs. I was thinking of svn since I have a project on Google Cod
* Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070923 09:42]:
> I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing
> project. Being a programmer my first instinct is to use something
> along the lines of rcs/cvs. I was thinking of svn since I have a
> project on Google Code and have the tools
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:46:59 -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> At first glance I am leaning for throwing Subversion on my main box
>> so I can sync the other two machines off of it. Not sure if there is
>> something better suited to the task or that svn would be particularly
>> ill
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:51:54 -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> Asking questions and making comments are *not* arguing.
>>
>> Ron, we've been over this. Every time I ask a
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On 09/23/07 12:58, Osamu Aoki wrote:
[snip]
>
>> o handle non-text data as well as some textual data. The main file that is
>> going to change most often is an OOo document (odt). I'll also be storing
>> any
>> related files including Mindmap file
Steve Lamb:
> I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing project.
I kept all my documents (PDF, PPT, DOC, OOo, Latex etc.) from university
in SVN while studying. Before I tried SVN, I had used unison but that
didn't scale well to more than two computers and I couldn't u
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:26:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing project.
> Being a programmer my first instinct is to use something along the lines of
> rcs/cvs. I was thinking of svn since I have a project on Googl
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On 09/23/07 12:30, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Asking questions and making comments are *not* arguing.
>
> Ron, we've been over this. Every time I ask a simple question on the list
> someone, not always you granted, but someone take
Ron Johnson wrote:
> Asking questions and making comments are *not* arguing.
Ron, we've been over this. Every time I ask a simple question on the list
someone, not always you granted, but someone takes me to task about exactly
what it is I want or why I am doing something this way and not tha
rcs wasn't originally intended to manage software. It was originally
intended as a documents manager then branched out to be able to manage
anything that could be stored by way of electronic archiving. I'm not
familiar with the historis of the newer revision control systems though so
won't co
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On 09/23/07 11:45, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> Tarballs don't sync across machines, they overwrite. Also it's a matter
>
>> I don't mean sync, I mean copy.
>
> I know what you meant. But you are flatly ignoring my requirement
Ron Johnson wrote:
>> Tarballs don't sync across machines, they overwrite. Also it's a matter
> I don't mean sync, I mean copy.
I know what you meant. But you are flatly ignoring my requirement for
syncing. I make an edit on Machine A and toss-a-tarball onto whatever
machine(s) I decid
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On 09/23/07 11:10, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> How big (in bytes) is this writing project?
>
> Right now, tiny.
>
>> So why couldn't you tar up your directory into proj_.tar
>> and rcp it to a couple of other computers? (Since you
Ron Johnson wrote:
> How big (in bytes) is this writing project?
Right now, tiny.
> So why couldn't you tar up your directory into proj_.tar
> and rcp it to a couple of other computers? (Since you use odt, no
> need to compress the tarball.)
>> o sync across multiple machines.
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On 08/22/07 10:26, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for a tool to help me maintain a backup of a writing project.
> Being a programmer my first instinct is to use something along the lines of
> rcs/cvs. I was thinking of svn since I have
On Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 08:26:59AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> At first glance I am leaning for throwing Subversion on my main box so I
> can sync the other two machines off of it. Not sure if there is something
> better suited to the task or that svn would be particularly ill suited.
I can't
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