Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-22 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Your argument assumes bandwidth is universally cheap and receiving two copies > of an email doesn't waste twice the space in their mail spool or cost them > twice as much to receive. Such duplicate CCs are almost certainly a small fraction of one's tota

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 21 April 2006 08:50, Matthias Julius wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I do this to the point where I'll go to reply to my mom or something and > > hit L in kMail...type my reply, hit send, then get a modal telling me I > > didn't specify an email address. kMail in si

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-22 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 21 April 2006 18:40, Miles Bader wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On this mailing list, it's generally considered abusive. See > > http://lists.debian.org/ > > Or more accurately, some very squeaky wheels on this list just loove > to bitch about being CCed; for t

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-22 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On this mailing list, it's generally considered abusive. See > http://lists.debian.org/ Or more accurately, some very squeaky wheels on this list just loove to bitch about being CCed; for these people, a single duplicate mail (something easily detec

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-22 Thread Matthias Julius
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do this to the point where I'll go to reply to my mom or something and hit > L > in kMail...type my reply, hit send, then get a modal telling me I didn't > specify an email address. kMail in sid is *really* good about detecting > mailing lists, eve

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 21 April 2006 13:16, Mike McCarty wrote: > I can CC: the person I'm replying to, even if he *doesn't* > ask for it! On this mailing list, it's generally considered abusive. See http://lists.debian.org/ -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Beca

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-21 Thread Mike McCarty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 09:30:37AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quorum? The list administrator(s) form a quorum. They rarely interfere in anything unless they see action is needed to maintain the freedom of the list. Correction: not And about CCing: You can

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-21 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 09:30:37AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > A quorum? The list administrator(s) form a quorum. They rarely > interfere in anything unless they see action is needed to maintain the > freedom of the list. Correction: not > And about CCing: You can CC: the person you

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-21 Thread Philippe De Ryck
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 23:10 +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: > I am sure I'm not the only one who gets mildly irritated with people > sending replies both to the sender (my personal email address) and to > the list. I am also sure I'm not the only one who accepts this practice, > especially on mailing

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 20 April 2006 02:59, Magnus Therning wrote: > There are other lists than Debian lists in the world. Not all lists have > that policy. :-) Personally I _always_ reply to the list (L in > mutt(-ng)). I do this to the point where I'll go to reply to my mom or something and hit L in kMail

Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 20 April 2006 07:31, Matthias Julius wrote: > Another aspect is that there is no convenient way to send a private > reply to the sender when he had set Reply-To to the list. You then > can only do this by manually copy/paste of the From address. Right, of course. If someone sets Rep

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-20 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 03:53:29PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > >> AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like >> mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders >> preference. Then well-beh

Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-20 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2006-04-20, Matthias Julius penned: > > Another aspect is that there is no convenient way to send a private > reply to the sender when he had set Reply-To to the list. You then > can only do this by manually copy/paste of the From address. Well, yes, that's exactly why some of us want to do th

Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-20 Thread Matthias Julius
"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2006-04-19, Wayne Topa penned: >>> >> >> folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: >> 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' > > It must be considered harmful by somebody: > > http://gmane.org/faq.php > > [quote] > But I did use a valid email address. >

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-20 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 08:11:29AM -0400, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > On 4/19/06, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make it > > > clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-20 Thread Star King of the Grape Trees
Manaen Schlabach wrote: On 4/19/06, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make it clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if you are posting to the list, and all quality

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-20 Thread Manaen Schlabach
On 4/19/06, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make it > > clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if you are > > posting to the list, and all quality mail clients have "Re

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-20 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make it > clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if you are > posting to the list, and all quality mail clients have "Reply to > Mailing List." How Debian... "I'm _shocked_ that

Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2006-04-19, Wayne Topa penned: >> > > folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: > 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' It must be considered harmful by somebody: http://gmane.org/faq.php [quote] But I did use a valid email address. Perhaps you did in your From, but your Reply-To address pointed to

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Mike McCarty
Magnus Therning wrote: I am sure I'm not the only one who gets mildly irritated with people sending replies both to the sender (my personal email address) and to the list. I am also sure I'm not the only one who accepts this practice, especially on mailing lists that are open for everyone to post

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:09, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > > > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > > > mailman, to add a header to email sent to li

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 03:00 +0100, Doofus wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > >>On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like >

Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Matthew R. Dempsky([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how > > > to get muttng to put it

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Doofus
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders preference.

Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how > > to get muttng to put it in mails. > > > > folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: 'debian-use

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > > > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > > preference. Then well-behav

Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Wayne Topa
Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:21:04PM +0100, Alec Berryman wrote: > >Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100: > > > >>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, > >>like mailman, to add a header to email sent t

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint > when the user rep

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:10:58PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: > I am sure I'm not the only one who gets mildly irritated with people > sending replies both to the sender (my personal email address) and to > the list. I am also sure I'm not the only one who accepts this practice, > especially on

Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]

2006-04-19 Thread Magnus Therning
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:21:04PM +0100, Alec Berryman wrote: >Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100: > >>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, >>like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the >>senders preference. Then well-behaved mail cli

Re: Thought on receiving two answers...

2006-04-19 Thread Alec Berryman
Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100: > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint > when the user replies to a m