Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-09-11 Thread Paul Ausbeck
I finally got back to this ThinkPad R51 stability problem and was able to definitively assign blame to a defective (at least in this box) memory module. Defective memory was suggested on list as a probable cause, so thank you. I first used the "mem=1G" kernel boot parameter to limit memory used

Re: Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-19 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2015-06-19 at 11:55 -0700, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > for emacs23, or at least I can't find any. I'm not yet ready to install > emacs24 because I have some confidence that the problem won't occur with > emacs24, just as it doesn't occur with my built emacs23. But I'll still > have the proble

Re: Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-19 Thread Paul Ausbeck
I apologize, Sven, for not following up on your suggestion. Or rather for not mentioning my followup in my last post. I did look at the available symbols packages. However, there aren't any symbols available for emacs23, or at least I can't find any. I'm not yet ready to install emacs24 because

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-18 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-06-17 at 16:06 -0700, Paul Ausbeck wrote: anyone have any insight into how one can build the identical Debian > > binary to that installed? My previous reply: "It definitively sounds like a hardware problem, but I just wanted to address the above. Debian have quite a few -dbg packa

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-17 Thread Paul Ausbeck
Thanks to everyone who read and/or responded to my query. I've got some additional information that may prompt some additional discussion. It seems there there is some chance that the problem is due to a RAM fault. I had run memtest86+ before I made the initial posting and hadn't gotten any fa

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2015-06-14 at 14:49 -0700, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > I've looked at > compiling a debug version of emacs but that isn't trivial, still in > progress. It definitively sounds like a hardware problem, but I just wanted to address the above. Debian have quite a few -dbg packages. For emacs there

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-15 Thread Gary Dale
On 15/06/15 07:52 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Martin Read wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: In the old days computers would use ECC ram throughout. ECC (in the strict sense) has never been ubiquitous. At one time every computer I interfaced with had ECC. It was very popular with me and everyone else I knew

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Read wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >In the old days computers would use ECC ram throughout. > > ECC (in the strict sense) has never been ubiquitous. At one time every computer I interfaced with had ECC. It was very popular with me and everyone else I knew. :-) > Parity was quite common in

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-15 Thread Martin Read
On 14/06/15 23:40, Bob Proulx wrote: In the old days computers would use ECC ram throughout. ECC (in the strict sense) has never been ubiquitous. Parity was quite common in certain timeframes, but parity won't stop your system crashing if you get bitflips - it'll just make it crash *immediat

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul Ausbeck wrote: > I recently replaced the hard disk in my ThinkPad R51 with a solid > state drive The ThinkPad R51 is a solid machine. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. > The symptom is that as time goes on more and more programs will cause a > segmentation fault while loading. For instan

Re: ThinkPad R51 creeping segmentation faults

2015-06-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 02:49:22PM -0700, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > I recently replaced the hard disk in my ThinkPad R51 with a solid state > drive and when I did so I installed Debian Wheezy LXDE updated with a 3.16 > kernel as one of the boot options. I really am pleased with how the system > looks a