Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/14/2010 07:51 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:32:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Regarding ssh: this was the first entry when I Googled "ssh vs. telnet": http://blogs.sun.com/JayzSpeak/entry/telnet_vs_ssh That misses an important point. SSH happens to be more secure.

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:32:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Regarding ssh: this was the first entry when I Googled "ssh vs. telnet": > http://blogs.sun.com/JayzSpeak/entry/telnet_vs_ssh That misses an important point. SSH happens to be more secure. But it is also way more usable. Password-les

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/13/2010 10:54 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 10:29 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/13/2010 09:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? What about t

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/13/2010 10:29 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/13/2010 09:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? What about them? Exactly.

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Ron Johnson
On 06/13/2010 09:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? What about them? -- "There is usually only a limited amount of damage that can be done by dull or

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Mark Allums
On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) What about ssh? VNC? RDP? On 06/13/2010 07:51 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Does anyone have telnetd working in Squeeze. What error(s) are you getting? -- To

Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

2010-06-13 Thread Ron Johnson
(Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time Has Passed?) On 06/13/2010 07:51 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Does anyone have telnetd working in Squeeze. What error(s) are you getting? -- "There is usually only a limited amount of damage that can be done by dull or stu

Re: Telnetd

2004-11-23 Thread Raquel Rice
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:22:37 -0500 David Mandelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raquel Rice wrote: > > that allows telnet, then I'd check /etc/hosts/allow and > > /etc/hosts/deny > > Shouldn't those be /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny ? > > /etc/hosts/* can't exist because /etc/hosts is a f

Re: Telnetd

2004-11-23 Thread David Mandelberg
Raquel Rice wrote: > that allows telnet, then I'd check /etc/hosts/allow and > /etc/hosts/deny Shouldn't those be /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny ? /etc/hosts/* can't exist because /etc/hosts is a file for basic host lookup (including localhost). -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version

Re: Telnetd

2004-11-23 Thread Raquel Rice
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:12:01 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have telnetd installed, and my debian machine is on a network > with Windows and Mac machines. IP addresses are set up, I can ftp > back and forth etc. > > But when I try to telnet from my Windoze machine to the debian > one, I get

Re: Telnetd

2004-11-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 22:12 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have telnetd installed, and my debian machine is on a network with Windows > and Mac machines. IP addresses are set up, I can ftp back and forth etc. > > But when I try to telnet from my Windoze machine to the debian one, I get >

Re: Telnetd

2004-11-23 Thread David Mandelberg
Just so you know, when I said ftp, I meant using ftp for file transfer between computers with a user/pass. Using anonymous ftp to download files is fine. Joe wrote: > Thanks, I'll look at these packages. I'm using telnet and ftp out of > ignorance I guess - relative newbie, just getting started an

Re: Telnetd

2004-11-23 Thread David Mandelberg
Why are you using telnet and ftp in the first place? They are both very insecure (clear-text passwords) and you should use ssh and sftp, rsync, or something that encrypts (or better yet, doesn't send) passwords. -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/CM$/CS>$/CC/IT$/M/S/O/U dpu s+:+

Re: telnetd listening only on vmware nat interface

2004-06-20 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 10:18:24AM -0700, William Ballard wrote: > How can I install telnetd and have it only listen on the nat interface > vmware creates? > > SSH for my PocketPC is 2.85 MB; but I have got a PPTP tunnel set up, so Never mind: I found a smaller SSH: PocketPuTTY (0.5MB). -- T

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-10 Thread Jens Müller
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My somewhat uneducated guess is that your reverse DNS might be behind > this. Notice what I get (apologies for the telnets to your box ;-): debian.enode.de is not my box, it is just a name I use internally for my box (as enode.de is my domain). debian

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-10 Thread Jens Müller
"Eric C. Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The ai_canonname field gives the "official name of the host", > according to "man getaddrinfo". HTH. Oh, OK ... and because my hostname does not resolve to my host ... Pretty clear now! -- Please don't CC me on replies!

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Eric C. Cooper
In telnetd.c, it does the following (slightly simplified): /* Get local host name */ gethostname(host_name, sizeof(host_name)); hints.ai_family = PF_UNSPEC; hints.ai_flags = AI_CANONNAME; getaddrinfo(host_name, 0, &hints, &res); strncpy(host_name, res->ai_canonname, sizeof(

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Jens" == Jens Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jens> Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Try 'hostname, 'hostname --fqdn' and 'dnsdomainname -v' for >> some hints. Look in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts too. I wish I >> had a simple answer for you, but I'm somewhat

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Jens Müller
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What does /etc/issue.net say? You replied to my other post where I mentioned it, but again: debian:/etc/news# cat /etc/issue.net Debian GNU/%s 3.0 %h -- Please don't CC me on replies!

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Jens Müller
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Try 'hostname, 'hostname --fqdn' and 'dnsdomainname -v' for some > hints. Look in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts too. I wish I had a simple > answer for you, but I'm somewhat ignorant myself. debian:/etc/news# hostname debian.enode.de debian:/etc/news# h

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Jens" == Jens Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jens> "Eric C. Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I believe this comes from /etc/issue.net (probably set up >> during installation). Jens> debian:/etc/news# cat /etc/issue.net Debian GNU/%s 3.0 %h Jens> man issue.net:

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Jens" == Jens Müller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jens> My telnetd gives the following message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Jens> telnet localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Jens> Connected to localhost. Jens> Escape character is '^]'. Jens> Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 kundenserver.de deb

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Jens Müller
"Eric C. Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe this comes from /etc/issue.net (probably set up during > installation). debian:/etc/news# cat /etc/issue.net Debian GNU/%s 3.0 %h man issue.net: %h - show the system node name (FQDN) And where comes the system node name (FQDN) kunden

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Jens Müller
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Maybe from /etc/resolv.conf. Since my IP address is given by a > DHCP client, the DHCP client also generates /etc/resolv.conf, and > it specifies my ISP in the "search" clause. > > For example: > $ cat /etc/resolv.conf > search no.cox.net > nameserver 68

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 08:55, Jens Müller wrote: > David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet localhost > > > Trying 127.0.0.1... > > > Connected to localhost. > > > Escape character is '^]'. > > > Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 kundenserver.de > > > debian.enode.de login:

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread Jens Müller
David Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet localhost > > Trying 127.0.0.1... > > Connected to localhost. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 kundenserver.de > > debian.enode.de login: > > > > I have no idea where the kundenserver.de comes from. Ca

Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-09 Thread David Jardine
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 11:13:15AM +0100, Jens Müller wrote: > My telnetd gives the following message: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet localhost > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost. > Escape character is '^]'. > Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 kundenserver.de > debian.enode.de login: > > I hav

Re: telnetd is not 8-bit clean?

2002-01-22 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:04:51AM +0200, Tuukka Toivonen wrote: ... > telnet is not 8 bit clean? No. I think I know this by experience. Sending some Shift-JIS (16 bit) codes killed telnet connection. Sending ^] (the default telnet escape character) Ascii=0x1D, stoped telnet connection. I

Re: telnetd slow to respond

2001-04-05 Thread Debian User
It may not be the /etc/hosts.deny file. Something may be trying to log telnet sessions with the client hostname rather than the client ip address. Thus, reverse DNS look ups are necessary. If my memory serves me correctly, I saw hostnames instead of ip addresses in my /var/log/daemon.log for tel

Re: telnetd slow to respond

2001-04-05 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Patrick Colbeck wrote: > Yup > > I think the telnetd tries to do a reverse lookup on the incoming telnet > session. Adding your ip address and machine name to the hosts file of the > machine you are telneting to will speed it up a lot. Same thing applies to > proftpd so maybe its a function of the

RE: telnetd slow to respond

2001-04-05 Thread Martin Marconcini
Indeed. You need either a properly reverse zone nameserver or add the entries to hosts file. Martin. > -Original Message- > From: Patrick Colbeck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:57 AM > To: Jason P. Holland; 'Debian User list' > Sub

Re: telnetd slow to respond

2001-04-05 Thread Patrick Colbeck
Yup I think the telnetd tries to do a reverse lookup on the incoming telnet session. Adding your ip address and machine name to the hosts file of the machine you are telneting to will speed it up a lot. Same thing applies to proftpd so maybe its a function of the inetd super server ? Pat On

RE: telnetd slow to respond

2001-04-05 Thread Jason P. Holland
This is normally associated with DNS problems. check and make sure you have /etc/resolv.conf setup correctly. Also, if you need a static entry or two, add them to /etc/hosts. Jason > > I'm having difficulty telnetting into my system. It appears > that I get a > connection right away, but it ta

Re: telnetd can't get ttys

1999-11-25 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 05:15:01PM -0800, aphro wrote: > > identd would not reply to requests for ident. happened i believe after i > upgraded from hamm to slink. i believe slink by default set ident to user > nobody, and identd didnt work, i tried several different ident daemons and > all were

Re: telnetd can't get ttys

1999-11-25 Thread aphro
identd would not reply to requests for ident. happened i believe after i upgraded from hamm to slink. i believe slink by default set ident to user nobody, and identd didnt work, i tried several different ident daemons and all were the same, did not work..till i changed the user to root (had the

Re: telnetd can't get ttys

1999-11-25 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 02:35:14PM -0800, aphro wrote: > i had to to the same to get identd working ..not sure why .. > > let me know what u find out if its not posted to the list Please explain what you mean by identd not working. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email

Re: telnetd can't get ttys

1999-11-25 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 05:14:47PM -0500, Brian White wrote: > I installed the new telnetd (v0.14-8) in an upgrade from Slink, but every > connection attempt failed until I modified /etc/inetd.conf to say "root.root" > instead of "telnetd.telnetd". > > The user and group telnetd exist, and telnetd

Re: telnetd can't get ttys

1999-11-24 Thread aphro
i had to to the same to get identd working ..not sure why .. let me know what u find out if its not posted to the list nate On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Brian White wrote: bcwhit >I installed the new telnetd (v0.14-8) in an upgrade from Slink, but every bcwhit >connection attempt failed until I modif

Re: telnetd timeout setting

1999-10-29 Thread aphro
what do you mean time out ? is it a tcp time out where the client loses connection to the host? is it a timeout during user authentication? is a timeout for auto logout due to idling ? be more specific!! nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice Presiden

Re: telnetd-ssl

1999-09-19 Thread peter karlsson
The problem has been found. The telnet daemon was set in inetd.conf to be started as user telnetd, which was something that telnetd-ssl didn't grok. After resetting it to root, it works just fine. -- \\// peter - http://www.softwolves.pp.se/ - and God said: nohup make World >& World.log &

Re: telnetd-ssl

1999-09-18 Thread Ben Collins
On Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 11:50:06AM +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > J.H.M. Dassen (Ray): > > > Looks like the permissions on your ttyp devices are wrong; they should > > look like this: > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty3, 2 Mar 13 1999 /dev/ttyp2 > > Okay, I fixed that (it must've somehow

Re: telnetd-ssl

1999-09-18 Thread peter karlsson
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray): > Looks like the permissions on your ttyp devices are wrong; they should > look like this: > crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty3, 2 Mar 13 1999 /dev/ttyp2 Okay, I fixed that (it must've somehow forgot to reset them, because some were owned by my own user accound, and had

Re: telnetd-ssl

1999-09-17 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 04:02:40PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 15:59:57 +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > > telnetd: /dev/ttyp2: Permission denied > > Looks like the permissions on your ttyp devices are wrong; they should look > like this: > crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty

Re: telnetd-ssl

1999-09-17 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 15:59:57 +0200, peter karlsson wrote: > telnetd: /dev/ttyp2: Permission denied Looks like the permissions on your ttyp devices are wrong; they should look like this: crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty3, 2 Mar 13 1999 /dev/ttyp2 HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier

Re: telnetd?

1998-06-02 Thread Jack Kern
On Mon, Jun 01, 1998 at 05:39:21PM -0700, Mikhali Mifsud wrote: > Hey all, > > I just created a new debian install. I dpkg all the accessories Iw > anted by seem to have no telnet daemon. If I remember coreectly I > have to manually modify one of the init files int /etc to allow telnet > to work

Re: telnetd problem

1997-07-17 Thread joost witteveen
[Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > How I can set up telnet server to debian? I don't like compiling, can I > get binary-files from somewhere? Just install the netstd packagre. It'll setup a server for you. -- joost witteveen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] #!/usr/bin/perl -sp0777ihttp