Re: Telnet

2023-12-05 Thread Anssi Saari
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > gene heskett wrote: >> On 12/4/23 05:22, Anssi Saari wrote: >> > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: >> > >> >>> I concur, and would add that even on an isolated network one >> >>> should prefer ssh. First, to be in the right habit. Second >> >>> because it

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-12-05): > It does have a line mode with local echo (meaning you can type without > anything > being sent until you hit ENTER, with limited line editing capabilities > (backspace > and things). No readline's full power, though: that was more like a > Christmas's > wish :-)

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 08:29:04PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (12023-12-04): > > Back then (TM) (must have been 1990ies or so) I knew. And I sometimes still > > miss the "easy interactivity". I haven't investigated whether there is an > > equivalent socat mode (say line-mode wi

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-12-04): > Back then (TM) (must have been 1990ies or so) I knew. And I sometimes still > miss the "easy interactivity". I haven't investigated whether there is an > equivalent socat mode (say line-mode with readline editing or something). That > would be a market niche, would

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 08:04:40PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de (12023-12-04): > > Which, in the case of interaction with HTTP (and most others) actually > > comes in handy. Those explicit \r\n get old pretty fast... > > Just hope you will not need to emit a LATIN SMALL LETTER Y

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-12-04): > Which, in the case of interaction with HTTP (and most others) actually > comes in handy. Those explicit \r\n get old pretty fast... Just hope you will not need to emit a LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH DIAERESIS in ISO-8859-1. Anyway, the treatment done by telnet is no

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > Curt (12023-12-04): > > Telnet doesn't alter the actual data being transmitted > > Yes it does, read the doc before posting wrong information here. Which, in the case of interaction with HTTP (and most others) actually comes in han

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
Curt (12023-12-04): > I think you're buggering yet another fly here. I think you should read the docs and shut up. I know what I am saying. -- Nicolas George

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Curt
On 2023-12-04, Nicolas George wrote: > Curt (12023-12-04): >> Telnet doesn't alter the actual data being transmitted > > Yes it does, read the doc before posting wrong information here. > I think you're buggering yet another fly here.

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
Curt (12023-12-04): > Telnet doesn't alter the actual data being transmitted Yes it does, read the doc before posting wrong information here. -- Nicolas George

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
Marco Moock (12023-12-04): > Is that really the case? Yes. > Other applications like telnet or vi don't care about it, so I > assume(d), it is up to the application to handle it. Applications can decide to change the mode of the tty or catch SIGINT. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Marco Moock
Am 04.12.2023 um 09:28:30 Uhr schrieb Nicolas George: > Marco Moock (12023-12-04): > > ncat also uses ^C to kill the process. > > No, this effect of ^C is part of the operating system. Is that really the case? Other applications like telnet or vi don't care about it, so I assume(d), it is up

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Curt
On 2023-12-04, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 04.12.2023 um 09:23:16 Uhr schrieb Nicolas George: > >> If you want to test a network protocol, you should use a really >> transparent client. Traditionally people use netcat (nc), but it >> handles EOF approximatively. > > ncat also uses ^C to kill the proce

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread debian-user
gene heskett wrote: > On 12/4/23 05:22, Anssi Saari wrote: > > debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: > > > >>> I concur, and would add that even on an isolated network one > >>> should prefer ssh. First, to be in the right habit. Second > >>> because it will do things that telnet won't, like tunne

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, 2:23 AM Nicolas George wrote: > Charles Curley (12023-12-03): > > True. None the less, there is at least one perfectly good use for > > telnet: testing connections to servers. > > Wrong. The telnet client is not entirely transparent, as the telnet > protocol defines an escape

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On 04/12/2023 11:30, gene heskett wrote: On 12/4/23 05:22, Anssi Saari wrote: debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: I concur, and would add that even on an isolated network one should prefer ssh. First, to be in the right habit. Second because it will do things that telnet won't, like tunnel X.

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread gene heskett
On 12/4/23 05:22, Anssi Saari wrote: debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: I concur, and would add that even on an isolated network one should prefer ssh. First, to be in the right habit. Second because it will do things that telnet won't, like tunnel X. Ah but will it tunnel wayland?? Enquiring

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Dec 03, 2023 at 11:52:51AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: True. None the less, there is at least one perfectly good use for telnet: testing connections to servers. charles@hawk:~$ telnet hawk Trying 127.0.1.1... telnet: Unable to connect to remot

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Anssi Saari
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk writes: >> I concur, and would add that even on an isolated network one should >> prefer ssh. First, to be in the right habit. Second because it will do >> things that telnet won't, like tunnel X. > > Ah but will it tunnel wayland?? Enquiring minds want to know :) Yes.

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
Marco Moock (12023-12-04): > ncat also uses ^C to kill the process. No, this effect of ^C is part of the operating system. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Marco Moock
Am 04.12.2023 um 09:23:16 Uhr schrieb Nicolas George: > If you want to test a network protocol, you should use a really > transparent client. Traditionally people use netcat (nc), but it > handles EOF approximatively. ncat also uses ^C to kill the process.

Re: Telnet

2023-12-04 Thread Nicolas George
Charles Curley (12023-12-03): > True. None the less, there is at least one perfectly good use for > telnet: testing connections to servers. Wrong. The telnet client is not entirely transparent, as the telnet protocol defines an escape octet to introduce commands. If you want to test a network pro

Re: Telnet

2023-12-03 Thread debian-user
Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 14:01:38 -0500 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > The question is whether anyone should be running a telnetd *server*. > > On an isolated network, it might be acceptable. But it's really a > > bad habit that should be stomped out aggressively, as machines >

Re: Telnet

2023-12-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 14:01:38 -0500 Greg Wooledge wrote: > The question is whether anyone should be running a telnetd *server*. > On an isolated network, it might be acceptable. But it's really a bad > habit that should be stomped out aggressively, as machines which are > currently on an isolated

Re: Telnet

2023-12-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Dec 03, 2023 at 11:52:51AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 17:00:44 +0100 > Marco Moock wrote: > > > > > > > How do you find 1994? It seems to be a mail from yesterday: > > > > For me it sounded like a joke. > > > > Telnet is unencrypted (although it is possible to

Re: Telnet

2023-12-03 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 17:00:44 +0100 Marco Moock wrote: > > > > How do you find 1994? It seems to be a mail from yesterday: > > For me it sounded like a joke. > > Telnet is unencrypted (although it is possible to run it over TLS to > encrypt it) and SSH exists more than 20 years. True. None th

Re: Telnet

2023-12-03 Thread Marco Moock
Am 03.12.2023 um 12:06:40 Uhr schrieb Michel Verdier: > On 2023-12-02, Andy Smith wrote: > > > Can someone examine the list's configuration? This email from 1994 > > seems to have only just been delivered. > > How do you find 1994? It seems to be a mail from yesterday: For me it sounded like

Re: Telnet

2023-12-03 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2023-12-02, Andy Smith wrote: > Can someone examine the list's configuration? This email from 1994 > seems to have only just been delivered. How do you find 1994? It seems to be a mail from yesterday: Received: from mail-lf1-x12d.google.com (mail-lf1-x12d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::

Re: Telnet

2023-12-02 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 09:50:00AM -0600, William Torrez Corea wrote: > My telnet not operate, try connect my laptop by means of telnet: Can someone examine the list's configuration? This email from 1994 seems to have only just been delivered. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-

Re: Telnet

2023-12-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 02, 2023 at 05:01:37PM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 02.12.2023 um 09:50:00 Uhr schrieb William Torrez Corea: > > > sudo telnet 192.168.1.1 Also, just for the record, there is *no* need to use sudo here.

Re: Telnet

2023-12-02 Thread Marco Moock
Am 02.12.2023 um 09:50:00 Uhr schrieb William Torrez Corea: > sudo telnet 192.168.1.1 > > Trying 192.168.1.1... > > Connected to 192.168.1.1. > > Escape character is '^]'. That means that the telnet connection was successful > > Telnet connection from 192.168.1.5:55670 refused. That means that

Re: telnet and harden-clients

2012-10-03 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
Try: # aptitude why-not telnet On 09/29/2012 06:46 PM, lina wrote: > Hi, > > I have the harden-clients installed. > > when I tried to install the telnet, > > it showed me conflict. > > # aptitude why telnet > Unable to find a reason to install telnet. > > I am just curious how telnet work. I

Re: telnet and harden-clients

2012-09-29 Thread Yoann CONGAL
I think that is because everything in telnet is sent in plaintext... password included. It is also vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks. See : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet#Security 2012/9/29 lina : > Hi, > > I have the harden-clients installed. > > when I tried to install the telnet, >

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-11 Thread Jeff Grossman
Todd A. Jacobs wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:37:06PM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. Just a shot in the dark, but I've occasionally run into weird problems where one system has UTF-8 support installed while the othe

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-11 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:37:06PM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: > or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. Just a shot in the dark, but I've occasionally run into weird problems where one system has UTF-8 support installed while the other doesn't. Make sure both system

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Grossman
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:24:27PM -0800, Jeff Grossman wrote: s. keeling wrote: Your problem isn't related to locale. I suspect it's your terminal emulation that's buggered. Are you using xterm, rxvt, or one of the clueless children (kterm/gnome-terminal)

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:24:27PM -0800, Jeff Grossman wrote: > s. keeling wrote: > >Your problem isn't related to locale. I suspect it's your terminal > >emulation that's buggered. Are you using xterm, rxvt, or one of the > >clueless children (kterm/gnome-terminal)? > > > I am using TERM=linux

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-07 Thread Jeff Grossman
s. keeling wrote: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: s. keeling wrote: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=l

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-07 Thread s. keeling
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > s. keeling wrote: > > Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >>> Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >>> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: > > > If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-04 Thread Jeff Grossman
s. keeling wrote: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to act the same. The display is much better but still not perfect.

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-11-04 Thread s. keeling
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: > >>> > >>> If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to > >>> act the same. The display is much better but still not perfect. I > >>> have

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: >> > >> >>> If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to >>> act the same. The display is much better but still not perfect. I >>> have >>> updated a new picture at http://www.st

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: > If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to act the same. The display is much better but still not perfect. I have updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdispla

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: > > If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to > act the same. The display is much better but still not perfect. I have > updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg. > What about

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:43:54AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude or mc

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:43:54AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: > >On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: > > > >>I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet > >>or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude > >>or mc it does not show a

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
Tim Gruene wrote: It might help to use a standard language setting, like export LC_ALL=C before you start the command. On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Jeff Grossman wrote: I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
Nate Duehr wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. I did a scree

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-28 Thread Tim Gruene
It might help to use a standard language setting, like export LC_ALL=C before you start the command. On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Jeff Grossman wrote: I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude or mc it d

Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-28 Thread Nate Duehr
On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. I did a screen shot and put i

Re: Re: Telnet mailserver 110

2006-07-03 Thread Mr. Jonathan P. Mwakijele
Dear Pol,I am interest is to configure POP3 client.Thanks  > I can telnet to my server normally, BUT I can't > telnet mailserver 110. ok :-) what do u do 4 connect? Check where your mailserver listening (loopback only? or in which interface) Which mailserver do u use? which error message appe

Re: [Telnet]Permanent stop

2006-06-06 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 05:58:20 +0200, JB MORLA wrote: > Hi, > > I've installed sshd and putty, I'd like to stop telnet permanently without > removing it. > > Here is a Fedora command: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] tmp]# chkconfig telnet off > > Is there a similar one under Debian? The generic Debian

Re: Telnet mailserver 110

2006-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Friday 10 March 2006 10:07, Jonathan P. Mwakijele wrote: > Dear Brian, > > I am Redhat Linux user. > > I can telnet to my server normally, BUT I can't > telnet mailserver 110. > > What might be a problem. Anything. Ask a smarter question? http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html --

Re: Telnet mailserver 110

2006-03-10 Thread Pol Hallen
> I can telnet to my server normally, BUT I can't > telnet mailserver 110. ok :-) what do u do 4 connect? Check where your mailserver listening (loopback only? or in which interface) Which mailserver do u use? which error message appear? Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

Re: telnet as login shell

2005-10-16 Thread Aurelien Ricard
Stephen Le wrote: On 10/16/05, Aurelien Ricard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stephen, try to put a telnet session in their ~/.bashrc I've never tried but it should work. While this works, it is insecure. A user can easily run a command like 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm .bashrc' to delete th

Re: telnet as login shell

2005-10-16 Thread Stephen Le
On 10/16/05, Aurelien Ricard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen, try to put a telnet session in their ~/.bashrc > I've never tried but it should work. While this works, it is insecure. A user can easily run a command like 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm .bashrc' to delete the .bashrc file and get full

Re: telnet as login shell

2005-10-16 Thread Aurelien Ricard
Benjamin A'Lee wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 08:56 -0700, Stephen Le wrote: Is it possible to change a user's login shell to an instance of telnet to a user-unique port? When a user logs into my server, I'd like them to be immediately dropped into a telnet session on a specific port running o

Re: telnet as login shell

2005-10-15 Thread Benjamin A'Lee
On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 08:56 -0700, Stephen Le wrote: > Is it possible to change a user's login shell to an instance of telnet > to a user-unique port? When a user logs into my server, I'd like them > to be immediately dropped into a telnet session on a specific port > running on the server and to b

Re: Telnet Problem

2005-05-05 Thread Jacob S
On Fri, 06 May 2005 08:58:50 +0500 (IST) Arun Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sir , > >I am new to qmail ,after the installation of qmail .the service >qmail-smtp and qmail-send is running but i cant able to telnet it >throughs following errors . > > The service are running > > [

Re: telnet problem

2004-11-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
Jacco Hoeve wrote: Andreas Janssen wrote: Jacco Hoeve (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: One more quick question: I am used to typing "telnet 0 port" .. but after I upgraded woody to sarge "telnet 0" gives: server01:/etc# telnet 0 25 telnet: could not resolve 0/25: Name or service not known It does the s

RE: telnet problem

2004-11-17 Thread Jacco Hoeve
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Janssen > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:53 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: telnet problem > > Hello > > Jacco Hoeve (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > >

Re: telnet problem

2004-11-17 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Jacco Hoeve (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > One more quick question: > > I am used to typing "telnet 0 port" .. but after I upgraded woody to > sarge "telnet 0" gives: > > server01:/etc# telnet 0 25 > telnet: could not resolve 0/25: Name or service not known Use the full IP address or nam

Re: Telnet broken on Woody? (was Help with telnet...)

2004-06-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Scott wrote: > Any other suggestions? It just appears telnet is broke on woody. telnet works fine on woody. I hate to admit to it but we have it installed on all of our machines and it works fine. I recommend using telnetd-ssl insetad of telnetd becuase ssh will nag you about it otherwise. A d

re: Telnet broken on Woody? (was Help with telnet...)

2004-06-28 Thread Scott
Thanks, Shaun. No luck: > I am no xinetd guru, but if I were to guess I'd say there's > something wrong with the "user=nobody" line. If the telnet > daemon starts as nobody, it won't be able to gain the > permissions of the user that wants to login. > > $ ls -l /usr/lib/telnetlogin > -rwsr-xr--

Re: Telnet 25 port problem

2003-10-07 Thread Greg Norris
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:46:43PM -0300, Agustín Ciciliani wrote: > These are some of the mail servers that I can't reach with my Debian: > mail.matrocolayasoc.com.ar, mail.skytel.com.ar, mail.ecogas.com.ar, and > others... Do you have ECN enabled in your kernel? You can check this by doing "cat

Re: Telnet 25 port problem

2003-10-07 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 01:46:43PM -0300, Agustín Ciciliani wrote: | Hi Everybody, | | I'm having an issue with qmail and my server to send mails to some domains. | Here is the error. This have been happening for three weeks. Have you looked in the logs? I have never used qmail and am not famili

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-30 Thread Kevin Buhr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > If I run telnet localhost 22 then I have to wait 15-30 seconds before it > connects; with telnet 127.0.0.1 22 it connects at once. I have the same > results using other open ports. Does telnet -4 localhost give the same delay? If not, then the problem is IP

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-26 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Shyamal Prasad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030816 13:59]: > "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rupert> Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Rupert> Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-18 Thread Rupert Levene
Mental Patient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RUPERT LEVENE wrote: >> Indeed. Netcat and galeon appear to do the right thing too, while >> telnet, lynx and links all suffer from a delay. (I first noticed >> the problem using lynx). My guess at the moment is that the >> combination of a slow machine

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-18 Thread Mental Patient
RUPERT LEVENE wrote: Indeed. Netcat and galeon appear to do the right thing too, while telnet, lynx and links all suffer from a delay. (I first noticed the problem using lynx). My guess at the moment is that the combination of a slow machine and a slow nameserver is exposing an odd bug in these pr

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-16 Thread RUPERT LEVENE
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rupert> Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rupert> Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> On Sat,

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rupert> Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rupert> Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 12:25:16AM +0100, >> >> [EMAIL P

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-16 Thread RUPERT LEVENE
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rupert> Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 12:25:16AM +0100, > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> Running strace telnet localhost 22 shows that

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Rupert" == RUPERT LEVENE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rupert> Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 12:25:16AM +0100, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Running strace telnet localhost 22 shows that it's trying to >>> resolve the hostname localho

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-16 Thread RUPERT LEVENE
Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 12:25:16AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> If I run telnet localhost 22 then I have to wait 15-30 seconds >> before it connects; with telnet 127.0.0.1 22 it connects at once. I >> have the same results using other open ports. >>

Re: telnet localhost slow, telnet 127.0.0.1 ok

2003-08-15 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 12:25:16AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I run telnet localhost 22 then I have to wait 15-30 seconds before it > connects; with telnet 127.0.0.1 22 it connects at once. I have the same > results using other open ports. > > Running strace telnet localhost 22 shows tha

Re: Telnet Access as root

2003-08-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 09:08:56PM +0200, vinz wrote: > Why can I not access my linux server as the root? Because that's a very bad idea. You really should be using SSH if you're going to be sending passwords anyway. Uninstall telnetd, get ssh, forg

Re: Telnet Access as root

2003-08-04 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 15:08, vinz wrote: > Why can I not access my linux server as the root? Because it is brain dead to do that. Clear Text Passwords... plus it allows someone to try direct hacking into a machine with a "absolutely known" account. Bare minimum would be SSH for ROOT. But even the

Re: Telnet Access as root

2003-08-04 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* vinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030804 21:08]: > Why can I not access my linux server as the root? For security reasons. Telnet transfers your password (or to be correct: ALL transmitted data) in plain text. Yours sincerely Alexander pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Telnet Access as root

2003-08-04 Thread David Z Maze
"vinz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. (*) text/plain ( ) text/html (Please don't post to mailing lists using HTML; set your mailer to send plain text only.) > Why can I not access my linux server as the root? It's easier to tell who did what, and is slightly more secure (

Re: Telnet Access as root

2003-08-04 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Monday 04 August 2003 21:08, vinz wrote: > Why can I not access my linux server as the root? Don't use telnet, use SSH. Putty (http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/) is a pretty good SSH client and should do everything you need. -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: telnet: could not resolve

2003-06-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 08:21:11AM -0400, Shawn Lamson wrote: > On Mon, June 23 at 2:10 PM EDT > - = k o l i s k o = - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i am using on all woody machines commands like "telnet 0 25" or > > "telnet 0 110" for telnet to localhost port. > > > > Since i upgraded to sarge

Re: telnet: could not resolve

2003-06-24 Thread Shawn Lamson
On Mon, June 23 at 2:10 PM EDT - = k o l i s k o = - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > i am using on all woody machines commands like "telnet 0 25" or > "telnet 0 110" for telnet to localhost port. > > Since i upgraded to sarge on few machines "telnet 0 port" dont work: > > 1 [EMAIL PRO

Re: telnet: could not resolve

2003-06-23 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Nathan" == Nathan Poznick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nathan> Use localhost when you mean localhost? I wasn't aware Nathan> that '0' was valid shorthand for localhost. Actually it is. From RFC 1700 ("Assigned Numbers") (a) {0, 0} This host on this network. Can on

Re: telnet: could not resolve

2003-06-23 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Michal Kolesar: > Hi all, > > i am using on all woody machines commands like "telnet 0 25" or "telnet > 0 110" for telnet to localhost port. > > Since i upgraded to sarge on few machines "telnet 0 port" dont work: > Any idea? Use localhost when you mean localhost? I wasn't aware that

Re: TELNET

2003-03-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030315 11:32 PST]: > and "telnet localhost pop3s" or https fails simply because the other end > wont speak to ya.. :-) .. woulda been nice to see which pop3s server but > oh well openssl s_client -connect $HOST:$PORT good times, Vineet -- http://www.doorsto

Re: TELNET

2003-03-17 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 11:12:13AM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > and "telnet localhost pop3s" or https fails simply because the other end > wont speak to ya.. :-) .. woulda been nice to see which pop3s server but > oh well Have you tried it with telnet-ssl? -- The freedoms that we enjoy presentl

Re: TELNET

2003-03-15 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:09:59PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Joao Paulo wrote: > > > telnet is also very good (but for other things). > > > telnet host 25 > > > telnet host 21 > > > ... > > > > but your firewall shoul

Re: TELNET

2003-03-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 12:09:59PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Joao Paulo wrote: > > telnet is also very good (but for other things). > > telnet host 25 > > telnet host 21 > > ... > > but your firewall should also block "the wrong protocols" > connecting to the wrong

Re: TELNET

2003-03-14 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Joao Paulo wrote: > > > >Telnet is considered harmful, use ssh instead. yuppers... but > > > telnet is also very good (but for other things). > telnet host 25 > telnet host 21 > ... but your firewall should also block "the wrong protocols" connecting to the wro

Re: TELNET

2003-03-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 11:43:44AM +, Joao Paulo wrote: > telnet is also very good (but for other things). >telnet host 25 >telnet host 21 >... Yuck. Use 'nc' from the netcat package instead. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Great minds discuss id

Re: TELNET

2003-03-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 11:43:44AM +, Joao Paulo wrote: > telnet is also very good (but for other things). >telnet host 25 >telnet host 21 >... Well, of course, but using it for it's intended purpose (with telnetd) is considered harmfu

Re: TELNET

2003-03-14 Thread Joao Paulo
Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 10:27:29AM +0100, ?ukasz Milewski wrote: How to telnet to your comp in network from other network without logging on router. Fix your router so it's passing traffic (if your local network is routable

Re: TELNET

2003-03-14 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 14, 2003 at 10:27:29AM +0100, ?ukasz Milewski wrote: > How to telnet to your comp in network from other network without > logging on router. Fix your router so it's passing traffic (if your local network is routable). If it's a private (

Re: TELNET

2003-03-14 Thread Robert Ian Smit
* ?ukasz Milewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [14-03-2003 10:45]: > How to telnet to your comp in network from other network without > logging on router. First of all I recommend using ssh, especially if you travel across different networks. I don't know what your setup looks like, but you should have a

Re: telnet and old ANSI graphics

2002-09-09 Thread Ben Goodstein
On (08 Sep 02 20:36), Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > Is there a way to get that standard telnet command in a terminal > window to support ANSI graphics? > > I am really embarrassed to mention why :) The real issue here is the font the terminal is using (I'm assuming X terminal? if it's on the cons

Re: telnet and old ANSI graphics

2002-09-08 Thread nate
Matthew Daubenspeck said: > Is there a way to get that standard telnet command in a terminal > window to support ANSI graphics? > > I am really embarrassed to mention why :) it doesn't depend upon the telnet command it depends upon the terminal emulator(the "terminal window"). I prefer gnome-term

Re: Telnet weirdness

2002-05-20 Thread Jeff
Carl Weidling, 2002-May-20 12:55 -0700: > but if I try to telnet, I get: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet ragwind > Trying 192.168.0.2... > Connected to ragwind.loc.net. > Escape character is '^]'. > > and that's it, it hangs until I quit out. ssh also hangs. > (However, ftp see

Re: telnet unable to connect

2001-12-16 Thread Ray Spartz
Not sure if this helps, since I am just now installing debian for the 1st time. If the file /etc/securetty exists, delete it, and root should be able to telnet in to that machine. (from RH6.2-zoot) At 10:59 AM 12/16/2001 -0500, Marc Britten wrote: On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 02:36, Paul Scott wr

Re: telnet unable to connect

2001-12-16 Thread Marc Britten
On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 02:36, Paul Scott wrote: > Thanks, I was aware of that and these two machines are right next to > each other and just used by me and my wife. OTOH I now realize that I > should not setup or allow telnet at all. Is the setup for ssh exactly > the same as for telnet. I d

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