On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 08:17:04PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:59:53AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> >
> > How does /usr/bin/mail know to put outbound mail in /var/spool/exim4/input?
> /usr/bin/main calls /usr/sbin/sendmail . This happens to be exim .
OK, that makes se
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 09:59:53AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> Hi Osamu,
> Thanks for the response. I really don't get it when it comes to mail.
> MTA/MDA/MUA are kind of confusing, if you know where I can find a 2 page
> explanation of email I'd really like to read it.
> I use /usr/bin/ma
Hi,
Unless you are very low in memory and lacks CPU power and swap space, it
is not worth the trouble to do nodaemon. I do not use it.
I use QUEUERUNNER='queueonly' now since I do not need to have SMTP port
listening daemon but nice to have queue daemon. My laptop is normal one
and is powerful
I save myself a lot of pain and use the esmtp package with Mutt. It
handles sending mail to my ISP and I don't need sophisticated local
delivery so it works for me. I wandered back into Exim land earlier
this year and it wasn't pretty.
- Nate >>
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the
Hi Osamu,
Thanks for the response. I really don't get it when it comes to mail.
MTA/MDA/MUA are kind of confusing, if you know where I can find a 2 page
explanation of email I'd really like to read it.
I use /usr/bin/mail, mutt, fetchmail and exim4.
The man page for /usr/bin/mail claims it
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:52:59AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:28:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
>
> > Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode. I fail
> Earlier in this thread someone suggested editing /etc/default/exim4
> setting QUEUERUNNER
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 04:23:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>> Not running a daemon means that you have the overhead of startup for
>> each new delivery. It implies less efficient handling of a queued mail.
>
> Given that he is doing this for local messages from daemons o
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:28:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode. I fail
Earlier in this thread someone suggested editing /etc/default/exim4
setting QUEUERUNNER='nodaemon'.
When I tried this and the mail stopped getting delivered un
On Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 15:04:57 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/skxmail/
> >
> >Works for me on my laptops..
>
> That looks very interesting. Why isn't it available from official Debian
> repos?
Because exim, postfix, nullmailer, ssmtp, all exist al
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 10:32:19, Steve Kemp wrote:
>
> http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/skxmail/
>
>Works for me on my laptops..
That looks very interesting. Why isn't it available from official Debian
repos? It might solve the endless "let's make postfix the default MTA in
Debian" thre
On Monday 21 September 2009 10:06:25 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> > >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
> >
> > Ok, first response was t
Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Not running a daemon means that you have the overhead of startup for
each new delivery. It implies less efficient handling of a queued mail.
Given that he is doing this for local messages from daemons only I think
resident memory is the primary concern, not efficiency o
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:06:25AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> Well the requirements were:
>
> - respects /etc/aliases
> - able to do local delivery
>
> NOT required (and not desired):
>
> - listening to port 25
What's wrong with listening on localhost:25 ?
IIRC this is the default configu
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:30:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> And did some research. From the packages providing mail-transport-agent
> (except the usual candidates) only xmail and dma seem interesting.
>
> Does anyone have experience with any of the two?
I tried using xmail for a while, bu
On Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 11:06:25 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> > >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
> >
> > Ok, first response was
09/21/2009 11:46 AM, Andrei Popescu:
- respects /etc/aliases
- able to do local delivery
Postfix with its non-monolithic architecture would help; but you'll
need an MDA in that case (Exim fills both roles).
Huh? Postfix works fine without an MDA...
He did not tell Postfix doesnt work. Or my e
Andrei Popescu wrote:
- I don't want to run a listening MTA on some machine just for that
Then don't run it in daemon mode. Not seeing the problem here. It isn't
like when it is called locally it binds to port 25.
--
Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream?
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 01:28:21, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >Well the requirements were:
>
> >- respects /etc/aliases
> >- able to do local delivery
>
> Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode.
> I fail to see what the issue is with Exim in that case. If run
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Well the requirements were:
- respects /etc/aliases
- able to do local delivery
Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode. I fail to
see what the issue is with Exim in that case. If runsize for the transient
time it is delivering mail is a pr
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
>
> Ok, first response was that nullmailer might work. Is the
> intent to get it to another MTA w
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need an
MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
Ok, first response was that nullmailer might work. Is the intent to get
it to another MTA which doe the final delivery nullmailer works. If it is
09/21/2009 10:36 AM, Andrei Popescu:
However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
lighter-weight than exim4?
I'm interested as well.
What about launching MTA from (x)inetd?
If I'm not mistaken that would replace one daemon (the MTA) with another
one ((x)inetd). Wh
On Mon,21.Sep.09, 09:58:45, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> 09/17/2009 07:48 PM, Andrei Popescu:
> >>Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> >>various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
> >>However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases a
09/17/2009 07:48 PM, Andrei Popescu:
Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
lighter-weight than exim4?
I'm interested as well.
What about
On Thu,17.Sep.09, 19:48:06, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Thu,17.Sep.09, 08:14:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>
> > Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> > various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
> >
> > However, isn't there a local-only mailer that r
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 02:07:21PM +0200, ludovico van wrote:
> > Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> > various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
> >
> > However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
> > lighter-weight than ex
> Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
>
> However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
> lighter-weight than exim4?
what i do on my computers is putting
QUEUERUNNER='nodaemon'
in /et
2009/9/18 Tom H :
> k.d.jant...@t-online.de wrote:
>>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>> Starting MTA:
>>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>>> quite some time.
>>> What does that mean?
>>> Do I have to have that?
>>> If not, ho
k.d.jant...@t-online.de wrote:
>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>> Starting MTA:
>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>> quite some time.
>> What does that mean?
>> Do I have to have that?
>> If not, how can I get rid of it.
qua
On Thu,17.Sep.09, 08:14:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Agreed. Cron and anacron both need a mailer to inform you of errors and
> various packages install cron jobs implicitly.
>
> However, isn't there a local-only mailer that respects /etc/aliases and is
> lighter-weight than exim4?
I'm
In <20090917111213.gl...@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote:
>Dale:
>> 2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
>>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>>
>>> Starting MTA:
>>>
>>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>>> quite some time.
>>>
>
Dale wrote:
> 2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
>> Hello
>>
>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>
>> Starting MTA:
>>
>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>> quite some time.
>>
>> What does that mean?
>> Do I have to have that?
>> If not, ho
Michal:
>
> MTA is mail transfer agent, exim is one of those, like sendmail,
> postfix et al, and you can remove this. Check the guide under
> install/remove some software
>
> update-rc.d -f exim remove
This is bad advice for various reasons.
- It doesn't solve the problem, it's just a workarou
Dale:
> 2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
>>
>> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>>
>> Starting MTA:
>>
>> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
>> quite some time.
>>
>> What does that mean?
>> Do I have to have that?
Exim4 is Debian's defau
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:28:35 +0200, K. Jantzen wrote:
> Hello
>
> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>
> Starting MTA:
>
> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting
> takes quite some time.
Check exim's configuration for DNS queries; you ca
-Original Message-
From: K. Jantzen [mailto:k.d.jant...@t-online.de]
Sent: 17 September 2009 11:29
To: DebianUser
Subject: Starting MTA:
Hello
in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
Starting MTA:
It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting t
2009/9/17 K. Jantzen :
> Hello
>
> in the booting sequence of Debian lenny I see a line saying
>
> Starting MTA:
>
> It "takes ages" until Debian comes up with "exim4". Thus booting takes
> quite some time.
>
> What does that mean?
> Do I have to have that?
> If not, how can I get rid of it.
> T
On Thursday 06 September 2007 23:28, Jeff D wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Chris wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:35, Celejar wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
> >>
> >> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whet
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Chris wrote:
On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:35, Celejar wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite
On 9/6/07, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to
> start on boot.
>
> I don't really know what the MTA is supposed to do on a laptop or desktop
>
On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:35, Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
>
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> > unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while
> > to sta
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to
> start on boot.
Googling for (parts of your) subject "Starting MTA takes long
On Thursday 06 September 2007 21:27, Michael Dominok wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
>
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> > unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while
> > to start o
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 21:13:02 +0200
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have several desktop systems, and regadless of whether I leave exim4
> unconfigured, or setup for local system use only, it takes quite a while to
> start on boot.
>
> I don't really know what the MTA is supposed to
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