Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-25 04:20:20 +1100]: > > > Chrony is designed to work with intermittent connections. ntpd works well with intermittent connections too. > No idea...chrony is a lot smarter than ntpdate though; it gradually > moves your clock back and forth so that running apps

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > Any idea why it conflicts with ntpdate? Installing it remvoed ntpdate. > ntp didn't conflict with ntpdate. Because chrony is a ntpdate replacement as well. ntpdate, thus, conflicts with chrony. -- .''`. Baloo <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread John Hasler
Bill Moseley writes: > Any idea why [Chrony] conflicts with ntpdate? I didn't think it was a good idea to have two programs yanking on the system clock at the same time. As far as I know chronyc lets you do everything that ntpdate does. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Bob Nielsen wrote: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:44:23AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > > > On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bill Moseley write

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 09:44:23AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > > On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: > > > > > > > Bill Moseley writes: > > > > > I just don't think it unreasonable that th

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: > > > > > Bill Moseley writes: > > > > I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time > > > > when ntp can't connect to the remote ho

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 06:36:22AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: > > > Bill Moseley writes: > > > I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time > > > when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that should not stop > > > ntp. > > >

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread James Tappin
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:19:35 +1100 Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say this is the sort of thing people mean when people say 'IDE > sucks!'; the CPU has to babysit the burner through the entire process... It's actually probably even more subtle. My experience has been that cdrdao causes

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On 24 Dec 2002, John Hasler wrote: > Bill Moseley writes: > > I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time > > when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that should not stop > > ntp. > > Chrony is designed to work with intermittent connections. Any idea why it c

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread John Hasler
Bill Moseley writes: > I just don't think it unreasonable that there could be periods of time > when ntp can't connect to the remote hosts -- and that should not stop > ntp. Chrony is designed to work with intermittent connections. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Rob Weir wrote: > I'd say this is the sort of thing people mean when people say 'IDE > sucks!'; the CPU has to babysit the burner through the entire process... It's hard for me to believe that can be the only problem. The clock falls behind almost a minute during a 4 minute

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-24 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 06:46:50PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: > On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:32:43AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Shawn Lamson wrote: > > > > Maybe it's because the CD-R is so fast? "Let's do the time warp again!" > > > > > > This is why I installed rdate, I thi

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-22 Thread Adam Majer
On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:32:43AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Shawn Lamson wrote: > > > > date; burn-cd.sh; date > > > > > > and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a > > > CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. > > >

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-22 Thread Bill Moseley
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Shawn Lamson wrote: > > date; burn-cd.sh; date > > > > and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a > > CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. > > > > Maybe it's because the CD-R is so fast? "Let's do the time warp again!

Re: Speaking of ntp, yes CD-R does mess with the clock!

2002-12-22 Thread Shawn Lamson
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 22:46:34 -0800 (PST) Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I had somene run: > > date; burn-cd.sh; date > > and burning the CD using cdrdao (48x drive -- about 4 minutes to burn a > CD) caused the system clock to fall behind about *50* seconds. > > Maybe it's becaus