On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 04:18:53PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by that reference to recycling. Do you mean
> that replacing the machine will produce more waste
yes, in almost all parts of the planet when one dismiss a tecnological
product one produces something bad f
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 01:37:10AM +, J M Cerqueira Esteves wrote:
> Part of TeX's beauty was that it nicely ran in a 286 machine :)
and also on 8088. Editing is/was perfectly nice, but not so nice the
half an hour of "compilation" to produce a 1 page .dvi
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Jeff Soules wrote:
> it looks
> like there is support for LaTeX on Windows via MiKTeX, per a cursory
> look here[1]. I don't know if anyone uses it, but I guess someone
> must, since the MiKTeX package is still around...
and there is proTeXt (MiKTeX-based):
http://www.tug.org/protext/
and also...
Jeff Soules wrote:
>
> Anyway (trying to drag this back to the original topic) -- it looks
> like there is support for LaTeX on Windows via MiKTeX, per a cursory
> look here[1]. I don't know if anyone uses it, but I guess someone
> must, since the MiKTeX package is still around...
>
> [1] http:
>> Stefan "Who doesn't understand why people use such old systems
>> given the availability of cheap replacements which are
>> much smaller and consume less power."
Nothing wrong with running on whatever hardware is available.
But if your hardware was around
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> This is Debian: the family of the CPU doesn't really matter.
Wonderful! This is just another reason I like Debian so much -- one is
free to use on many supported processors.
I think no other distro comes anywhere near Debian's basic ideology of
real freedom. Debian is gre
>> Stefan "Who doesn't understand why pople use such old systems
>> given the availability of cheap replacements which are
>> much smaller and consume less power."
> * not everybody lives in regions with the same "techonological density"
> as, say, New York. Even less people live in places where d
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:20:36PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Stefan "Who doesn't understand why pople use such old systems
> given the availability of cheap replacements which are
> much smaller and consume less power."
* not everybody lives in regions
>> BTW, what do you mean by "disable UTF"?
>> Other than setting LANG=C what else have you done to tune the system?
> remove all the locales-related packages (remove anything I didn't
> specifically need: disk space is limited too).
> Sure, a 200 MHz box would give faster (twice?) bash response tha
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 05:42:00PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 07:57:15AM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > Surprisingly, from a very limited test on beige G3 mac machines (the
> > above tests were instead on a pentium mmx 200 machine), I expect that
> > lenny shoul
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 07:57:15AM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:40:20PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> Surprisingly, from a very limited test on beige G3 mac machines (the
> above tests were instead on a pentium mmx 200 machine), I expect that
> lenny should NO
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:10:25AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> BTW, what do you mean by "disable UTF"?
> Other than setting LANG=C what else have you done to tune the system?
>
remove all the locales-related packages (remove anything I didn't
specifically need: disk space is limited too).
> As for measuring speed, it was dramatic. From the bash prompt, hit
> enter to get a new prompt thus
> $
> $
> On Debian with UTF enabled (and the box otherwise idle), it would take
> more than one second, without the UTF stuff installed it was about half
> a second. OpenBSD was as instantane
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:40:20PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> down. At the time, OpenBSD was not UTF enabled and it ran much faster.
> I haven't checked the latest (4.4) which is UTF enabled to see if it has
> the same problem now.
my limited, un-scientific, console only, experience from
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:15:46AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > I use neither windows nor UTF. I purged all the UTF stuff from my
> > debian boxes. I don't need it slowing things down. What's the point of
>
> Have you noticed or even measured a difference?
Yes. I could run Sarge on my 486
> -Mensaje original-
> De: Douglas A. Tutty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el: Sábado, 08 de Noviembre de 2008 04:28 p.m.
> Para: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Asunto: Re: Software For Book Writing
>
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:50:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrot
> "Tzafrir" == Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you want them to be able to edit it: how are you going
> to merge in their changes?
That is very easy with plain text latex files - from diff on the
simple end to CVS on the even-simpler-but-a-bit-more-overhead
end.
M
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> I use neither windows nor UTF. I purged all the UTF stuff from my
> debian boxes. I don't need it slowing things down. What's the point of
Have you noticed or even measured a difference?
Stefan
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Subject: Re: Software For Book Writing
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:30:07PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> I think you can use a versioning system to merge latex files (since
> the
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 04:57:10AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:30:07PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > I think you can use a versioning system to merge latex files (since they
> > are plain text) Editing a LaTex file is straight-forward for anybody
> > with half a
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:30:07PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> I think you can use a versioning system to merge latex files (since they
> are plain text) Editing a LaTex file is straight-forward for anybody
> with half a clue.
That is a bit unfair. TeX/LaTeX is not that straight-forward and
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 12:54:11PM +0100, oneman wrote:
>
> On 9-nov-2008, at 10:35, Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
>> I think LaTeX is the best! You can convert export and manipulate the
>> document very efficiently and if you have graphics, mathematics and so
>> on
>> I've not seen anything better yet.
On 9-nov-2008, at 10:35, Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
oneman wrote:
On 7-nov-2008, at 2:04, TW wrote:
Hi,
I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
sure what software to use to write it.
I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
to be able to convert it to OpenOf
oneman wrote:
>
> On 7-nov-2008, at 2:04, TW wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
>> sure what software to use to write it.
>>
>> I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
>> to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. for
Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:04:03PM -0700, TW wrote:
>>> I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
>>> sure what software to use to write it.
>>>
>>> I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
>>> to be able to con
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:38:29PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 11/08/08 08:35, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> >On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 07:43:51AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>Oh yes. Usually people who impose submission requirements are people
> >>who PAY you - employers, publishers, grantin
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 10:39:56PM +0100, Johannes wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > I use neither windows nor UTF. I purged all the UTF stuff from my
> > debian boxes. I don't need it slowing things down. What's the point of
> > me seeing a Chinese font in iceweasel (for example): I don't r
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:50:40PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 11/08/08 12:41, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> >I use neither windows nor UTF. I purged all the UTF stuff from my
> >debian boxes. I don't need it slowing things down. What's the point of
> >me seeing a Chinese font in ice
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> I use neither windows nor UTF. I purged all the UTF stuff from my
> debian boxes. I don't need it slowing things down. What's the point of
> me seeing a Chinese font in iceweasel (for example): I don't read
> Chinese so its Greek to me anyway.
That's fine as long as y
On 11/08/08 12:41, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
I use neither windows nor UTF. I purged all the UTF stuff from my
debian boxes. I don't need it slowing things down. What's the point of
me seeing a Chinese font in iceweasel (for example): I don't read
Chinese so its Greek to me anyway.
Re
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 05:39:05PM +0100, Johannes wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 07:44:01AM -0700, TW wrote:
> > I think you can use a versioning system to merge latex files (since they
> > are plain text) Editing a LaTex file is straight-forward for anybody
> > wi
On 11/08/08 08:35, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 07:43:51AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Oh yes. Usually people who impose submission requirements are people
who PAY you - employers, publishers, granting agencies - just the people
you want to tick of by teaching them the f
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Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 07:44:01AM -0700, TW wrote:
>>> The book is free-as-in-beer. Sounds like he might not be expecting
>>> "patches".
>> Ha, ha! I do. I'm just not sure of how I'm going to go about this
>> projec
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:43:51 -0500, Miles Fidelman in gmane.linux.debian.user
wrote:
> Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>> editable. I think the best way to make them learn the folly of their
>>> (people who insist on .doc) ways is to convert each page of the
>>> pdflatex's output into a png and embed them
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 07:43:51AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Oh yes. Usually people who impose submission requirements are people
> who PAY you - employers, publishers, granting agencies - just the people
> you want to tick of by teaching them the folly of their ways.
Yes, this is an excel
Stefan Monnier wrote:
editable. I think the best way to make them learn the folly of their
(people who insist on .doc) ways is to convert each page of the
pdflatex's output into a png and embed them as pages in the .doc
format :)
Actually, that sounds like a good idea. Tho PNG being bitma
> editable. I think the best way to make them learn the folly of their
> (people who insist on .doc) ways is to convert each page of the
> pdflatex's output into a png and embed them as pages in the .doc
> format :)
Actually, that sounds like a good idea. Tho PNG being bitmapped is
a bad choice.
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 07:44:01AM -0700, TW wrote:
> >> Why not just use PDF/HTML? Those will do very well for a read-only version.
>
> I might just stick with PDF. I was thinking about something else when
> I mentioned Microsoft Word.
>
> >> If you want them to be able to edit it: how
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 07:55:38PM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
>
> >Can't you just send a pdf? It's as ubiquitous as Word (or even more),
> >and this will keep the beautiful formatting Latex does.
>
> If I can get them to accept it. They probably want it to be editable. I
> think the best way
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:55:38 +0530
Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > Can't you just send a pdf? It's as ubiquitous as Word (or even
> > more), and this will keep the beautiful formatting Latex does.
>
> If I can get them to accept it. They probably wan
Raj Kiran Grandhi escreveu:
> Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
>
>> Can't you just send a pdf? It's as ubiquitous as Word (or even more),
>> and this will keep the beautiful formatting Latex does.
>>
>
> If I can get them to accept it. They probably want it to be editable. I
> think the best wa
On 7-nov-2008, at 2:04, TW wrote:
Hi,
I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
sure what software to use to write it.
I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. format(s).
The reason tha
>> Why not just use PDF/HTML? Those will do very well for a read-only version.
I might just stick with PDF. I was thinking about something else when
I mentioned Microsoft Word.
>> If you want them to be able to edit it: how are you going to merge in their
>> changes?
Thank yo
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
Raj Kiran Grandhi escreveu:
Can it convert from latex to odt format? I have spent quite a bit of
time unsuccessfully searching for something that would do it without
causing a lot of grief. Please point me to it. It would be a life saver
in those cases where people
Raj Kiran Grandhi escreveu:
> Can it convert from latex to odt format? I have spent quite a bit of
> time unsuccessfully searching for something that would do it without
> causing a lot of grief. Please point me to it. It would be a life saver
> in those cases where people insist on receiving do
On 11/07/08 02:56, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:04:03PM -0700, TW wrote:
Hi,
I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
sure what software to use to write it.
I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
to be able to convert it to OpenOffice
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:04:03PM -0700, TW wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
> sure what software to use to write it.
>
> I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
> to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc.
TW wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
> sure what software to use to write it.
>
> I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
> to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. format(s).
> The reason that I want to use something l
On 06 Nov 2008, TW wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
> sure what software to use to write it.
>
> I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
> to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. format(s).
> The reason t
On Fri,07.Nov.08, 14:46:26, Charlie wrote:
> LyX
...but do read the tutorial if you are used to WYSIWYG (OOo, Word)
editors.
Regards,
Andrei
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>--} Hi,
>--}
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On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:25:40PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:55:51AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> > Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > >On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:04:03PM -0700, TW wrote:
> >
> > >There seems to be a module that converts LaTex into just about anythi
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:55:51AM +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:04:03PM -0700, TW wrote:
>
> >There seems to be a module that converts LaTex into just about anything,
>
> Can it convert from latex to odt format? I have spent quite a bit o
On 11/06/08 19:04, TW wrote:
Hi,
I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
sure what software to use to write it.
I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. format(s).
The reason that I want to use so
Steve Lamb wrote:
Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
Latex should be fine. But I have not found any tools to convert latex to
odt. You may also want to look at sisu. It is in the repos and claims to
be able to generate most formats one would care about.
Abiword.
Do you mean abiword is capable of
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:04:03PM -0700, TW wrote:
I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
sure what software to use to write it.
I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. f
TW wrote:
Hi,
I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
sure what software to use to write it.
I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. format(s).
The reason that I want to use something like Vim is
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 06:04:03PM -0700, TW wrote:
> I'm going to be writing a political book soon and I'm not
> sure what software to use to write it.
>
> I want to use something like Vim to write it, but, I want
> to be able to convert it to OpenOffice/MicrosoftWord, etc. format(s
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