Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/8/17, deloptes wrote: > Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > >> On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote: >>> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome. >>> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in >>> chrome too? >> >> I have

Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread deloptes
Daniel Bareiro wrote: > An update. A few days ago they switched to Beta. Yesterday I tried video > calls. A person with an Android device called me and I was able to pick > up the call and talk to her. So it's an important progress. > > Although I saw that the chat area shows the start time of th

Re: Skype

2017-03-04 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi! On 07/02/17 17:25, Anonymous wrote: > Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the > Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as > many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from > Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us

Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread ken
On 02/07/2017 03:25 PM, Anonymous wrote: Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Sk

Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Next Tuesday (Feb 14) is "I Love Free Software day", a good chance to > tell your favorite developer that yes, you appreciate her/his job and > to send her/him virtual hugs ♥♥♥ > > Go ahead :) haha, thank you tomas

Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread Ric Moore
On 02/08/2017 06:03 AM, Daniel Bareiro wrote: I am currently testing Jitsi Meet [1] with Debian. Here [2] you can see a server with Jitsi Meet open to the community for test the system. Kind regards, Daniel [1] https://jitsi.org/Projects/JitsiMeet [2] https://meet.jit.si I'm giving this a wh

Re: Skype

2017-02-08 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, deloptes. On 08/02/17 03:36, deloptes wrote: > If we are pragmatic it was a joke that skype was ported to linux, we'll need > to find another way. I'm thinking of mere SIP phone or just dropping the > desktop and using windows anyway. There was too much disappointment > recently from the linu

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Feb 08, 2017 at 07:36:58AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > > > On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote: > >> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > >>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome. > >> haha indeed - and w

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote: >> Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: >>> Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome. >> haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in >> chrome too? > > I have not tried a video call. > >> I can c

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 08/02/17 13:32, deloptes wrote: Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome. haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in chrome too? I have not tried a video call. I can choose between M$ and M$ ... oh well there is

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > Sound works for me in Skype for Web under the non-free Chrome. haha indeed - and what about video, have you tested it? does it work in chrome too? And another product buried by M$ ... in fact the biggest one was Nokia though - IMO ... well done Europe ... well done U

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 08/02/17 11:49, deloptes wrote: Very interesting. I log in to skype for web. It says at the top: "Interested in richer and more integrated experience? Download the official desktop app. Download" When I "download" I get debian package "skypeforlinux-64-alpha.deb" installing this creates cat /e

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 08/02/17 10:20, deloptes wrote: >> Anonymous wrote: >>> Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the >>> Pulseaudio issue. >> I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you >> are talking about. > > I use Skype 4.3

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 08/02/17 10:20, deloptes wrote: Anonymous wrote: Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the Pulseaudio issue. I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you are talking about. I use Skype 4.3.0.37 i386 on unstable. While it still works

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread Joshua M. Boniface
On 2017-02-07 3:25 PM, Anonymous wrote: Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the Pulseaudio issue. No other software I've ever used on Linux causes as many problems as Skype. Obviously this problem ultimately comes from Microsoft, but nevertheless many of us need Sky

Re: Skype

2017-02-07 Thread deloptes
Anonymous wrote: > Skype on Linux is terrible and crashes randomly, even after fixing the > Pulseaudio issue. I use debian jessie and skype 4.3.0.37 on daily basis - no idea what you are talking about.

Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread deloptes
Haines Brown wrote: which version of skype are you using and on what system? > No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes > up with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be > crossed out at any time, even before contact is made. if it is gr

Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 05:45 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > No luck. When I try to establish a connection, the interface still comes up > with the camera icon crossed out. I assume that this icon should not be > crossed out at any time, even before contact is made. Have you enabled the camera in the

Re: Skype video question

2015-06-01 Thread Haines Brown
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 01:22:49AM +0200, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Haines Brown wrote: > > I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they > can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them. > > Try this: > > LD_PRELOAD=/

Re: Skype video question

2015-05-31 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Haines Brown wrote: > I used to run skype without a problem, but now when someone calls, they > can hear and see me. I can hear but cannot see them. My video camera is > working fine. I installed guvcview and it has no trouble using my > camera. When I go to Skyp

Re: skype pauses vlc [solved]

2015-05-14 Thread Paul Seyfert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > this is PulseAudio issue, and commenting string "load-module > module-role-cork" in /etc/pulse/default.pa fixes it. After that restart > pusleaudio process and also all apps that use pulseaudio (i.e. skype and > vlc). Hi Max, exactly what i was loo

Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Maxim Karpenko
Hi all, I also had this issue, and till now didn't pay attention to it. Just made some searching and then tried by myself: this is PulseAudio issue, and commenting string "load-module module-role-cork" in /etc/pulse/default.pa fixes it. After that restart pusleaudio process and also all apps that

Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Paulo Roberto
Hi Paul and Raph, In my case there is a behavior not so stable. Some times the Skype pause the audio in VLC and it does not resume and some times it resumes. I'm using the new testing. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On

Re: skype pauses vlc

2015-05-14 Thread Ralph Katz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/14/2015 08:50 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote [snipped]: > Hi, > > since i upgraded from wheezie to jessie I observe that skype is able to > pause vlc as follows: > > vlc plays music > skype is online > someone writes me a message > vlc pauses and sky

Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker ( fixed)

2015-02-15 Thread German
Here is the fix: Skype has been known to mess up the mixer settings. So disable the automatic configuration of the mixer controls in Skype: right-click with your mouse on the Skype icon in the system tray - Options - Sound Devices - remove the tick at: Allow Skype to automatically adjust

Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread German
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:03:38 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500 > German wrote: > > > Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output > > from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would > > they hear me

Re: Skype, Pulseaudio, very quite output from a speaker

2015-02-15 Thread Ron
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:37:04 -0500 German wrote: > Just installed Skype and when I make a test call, I got very quite output > from the speakers. Is this bevaviour normal? I mean if I call someone would > they hear me clear. I know, I really have to call someone, but don't have > this opportun

Re: Skype + Linux? was Jack: was Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-18 Thread Raffaele Morelli
On 18/09/14 at 05:19pm, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 20:29:26 +0200 > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > On 18/09/14 at 11:09am, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > My understanding of Jack (and please correct me if I'm wrong), is > > > that it's like being able to patchcord together all sorts of >

Re: Skype + Linux? was Jack: was Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-18 Thread Brian
On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 17:19:01 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 20:29:26 +0200 > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > > Yes, jack compliant applications can be routed from/to every where. > > Non compliant apps can also be routed with little tweaking (eg. > > flashplayer, skype) > > Did

Re: skype error

2014-09-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 6. September 2014, 19:17:52 schrieb Hans: > > > What can be done with this? > > You can try this little hack on the older linux version skype-4.2.: > > - Install the 4.2 package. > - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype > - search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0

Re: skype error

2014-09-06 Thread Hans
> > What can be done with this? You can try this little hack on the older linux version skype-4.2.: - Install the 4.2 package. - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype - search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0.37" - save the file - restart skype and - voila! It is now connec

Re: skype error

2014-09-06 Thread Brian
On Sat 06 Sep 2014 at 23:21:41 +0700, Ivan Petrov wrote: > I've installed skype 4.3 on my squeeze-64 with new libs copied from > archive like here: > http://community.skype.com/t5/Skype-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-Linux/Skype-4-3-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-Debian-Squeeze-6-amd64/td-p/3554479 > > But when I tried

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-29 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Paul van der Vlis" > > > 3. Skype-compatible clients for D7++ which could be used to connect > > directly to an OP running that alternate service? > > > > I'm especially interested in evaluations of > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/skype > >> free and open s

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:40:48 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > When I first saw the message above, I thought "This is all way beyone > me - I have never done anything like work on Debian packages source > code, or build a Debian package." > > Then, it just occurred to me - maybe this is a thing fo

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-20 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
I am a huge fan of Jitsi (http://jitsi.org) Does SIP, XMMP and integrates with several others. Offers full OTR and Video/RTSP encryption. There are several SIP to SKYPE gateway providers out there which will allow you to use any Sip client to make skype voice calls. Jitsi's desktop app isn't the

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/08/2014, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:01:39 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> And, if the solution is to change that line >> >> " >> sslConfig.setProtocol( QSsl::TlsV1 ); >> " >> >> where do I find that line, to make the change? > > > You'll have to change it in the Arora's so

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:01:39 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > And, if the solution is to change that line > > " > sslConfig.setProtocol( QSsl::TlsV1 ); > " > > where do I find that line, to make the change? You'll have to change it in the Arora's source, then rebuild the package. And, please n

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/08/2014, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:06:26 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> > :~$ openssl s_client -host bistri.com -port 443 -showcerts > > I got the same certificates from this server as you. Which, since we're > obviously using different ISP, is a good thing. Moreover, se

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:06:26 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > > :~$ openssl s_client -host bistri.com -port 443 -showcerts I got the same certificates from this server as you. Which, since we're obviously using different ISP, is a good thing. Moreover, server's certificate has: Validity No

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/08/2014, Reco wrote: >> Hi. >> >> On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:17:25 +0800 >> Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> " >>> SSL Errors: >>> >>> for: https://bistri.com/ >>> The certificate has expired >>> Do you want to ignore these errors? >>> " >> >> Hmm. It appears that t

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/08/2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 8/19/2014 2:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> " >> SSL Errors: >> >> for: https://bistri.com/ >> The certificate has expired >> Do you want to ignore these errors? >> " >> > > The certificate is valid from 1/6/2014 to 2/20/2015. Are you sure your > system tim

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/08/2014, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:17:25 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> " >> SSL Errors: >> >> for: https://bistri.com/ >> The certificate has expired >> Do you want to ignore these errors? >> " > > Hmm. It appears that they practicing SSL Bump where you live. Can you >

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Steve Litt
I'm getting that same Skype-no-sound problem you mention. Thanks, steveT On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 21:03:44 +0100 Michael Jones wrote: > New version socks, no audio due to the removal of alsa support > On 19 Aug 2014 16:15, "Andrew McGlashan" < > andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote: > > >

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2014, 16:59:45 schrieb Haines Brown: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:03:44PM +0100, Michael Jones wrote: > > New version socks, no audio due to the removal of alsa support > > I have similar problem, no audio with new version. > > So let me ask, did you install pulseaudio and

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Haines Brown
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:03:44PM +0100, Michael Jones wrote: > New version socks, no audio due to the removal of alsa support I have similar problem, no audio with new version. So let me ask, did you install pulseaudio and doing that didn't help? How do you know that the problem is due to shif

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Michael Jones
New version socks, no audio due to the removal of alsa support On 19 Aug 2014 16:15, "Andrew McGlashan" < andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote: > On 20/08/2014 12:22 AM, Ralph Katz wrote: > > Steve Gibson reports, "Secure browser connections can be intercepted > > and decrypted..." Wort

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 20/08/2014 12:22 AM, Ralph Katz wrote: > Steve Gibson reports, "Secure browser connections can be intercepted > and decrypted..." Worth a look: > > https://www.grc.com/fingerprints.htm Got a good fingerprint in my browser, it matches from the Gibson tool 2C:A6:F7:D4:76:A4:B9:BF:2D:85:88

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:17:25 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > " > SSL Errors: > > for: https://bistri.com/ > The certificate has expired > Do you want to ignore these errors? > " Hmm. It appears that they practicing SSL Bump where you live. Can you please post the output of: openssl s_client -h

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Ralph Katz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/19/2014 02:31 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 19 August 2014 07:17:25 Bret Busby wrote: [snip] >>> When I went to look at that web site, I repeatedly got "The >>> certificate at (, even >>> though I was trying to get to only the home page of

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/19/2014 2:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > > " > SSL Errors: > > for: https://bistri.com/ > The certificate has expired > Do you want to ignore these errors? > " > The certificate is valid from 1/6/2014 to 2/20/2015. Are you sure your system time is set correctly? Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:17:25 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: Hello Bret, >SSL Errors: Like Lisi, I got no such problem. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Life's short, don't make a mess of it No Time To Be 21 - The Adve

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/11/14, Brian wrote: > On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 14:55:23 -0400, Tom Roche wrote: >> 1. Skype-compatible clients for D7++ which could be used to connect >> directly to an OP running Skype? > > The Skype network is a network relying on proprietry protocols to access > it. The only software which ha

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 19 August 2014 07:17:25 Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > > On 19/08/2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > >> op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef: > >>> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new > >>> version, I'd like to learn more about av

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-18 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 19/08/2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef: >>> >>> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new >>> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes >>> for Skype for D7/wheezy, p

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-18 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/08/2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef: >> >> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new >> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes >> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-18 Thread Paul van der Vlis
op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef: > > Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new > version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes > for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe > even more robust bits of sid. (For brevity,

Re: Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-17 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Monday 11 August 2014 12:09:07 Bret Busby wrote: > Is the new version available in 64 bit (for Debian amd64 7.x), or, is > it limited to 32 bit, with 32 bit stuff to enable it to run on 64 bit > operating systems , 32 bits > and, is the new version available as a .deb > package? yes. You sho

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-10 Thread Bret Busby
On 11/08/2014, Brian wrote: > On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 14:55:23 -0400, Tom Roche wrote: > >> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new >> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes >> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and m

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 14:55:23 -0400, Tom Roche wrote: > Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new > version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes > for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe > even more robust bits of sid

Re: [OT] [politics] Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 09 August 2014 21:42:32 Iain M Conochie wrote: > I find it interesting that you feel more in control of a privately > funded corporation than a legitimate arm of a sovereign government. It > is obvious what the NSA want to do (snoop), I'm not so sure what google > want to do. > > Almost

[OT] [politics] Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-09 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 03/08/14 00:21, Joel Rees wrote: Google has too much money and is out of control. The NSA has too much money and is out of our control. I find it interesting that you feel more in control of a privately funded corporation than a legitimate arm of a sovereign government. It is obvious wha

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-07 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Mark Carroll wrote: > Bret Busby writes: > >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > At least that you've noticed. (-: A persistently irritating problem with > both Skype

Re: Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Joel Rees
Well, now maybe I can find a place to sort of drag this thread back almost on topic for the list. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 4/08/2014 9:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: >>> I wonder about Kirby myself. To me,

Re: Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 4/08/2014 9:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> I wonder about Kirby myself. To me, it shouldn't be the court deciding >> a matter of fact via *their* opinion. If the law says "xa" and the >> opinion says "xb" ... then it is up to the parliam

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Curt
On 2014-08-04, Bret Busby wrote: > > I think that this sub-thread has digressed from both the original > post, and, from the nature of the mailing list, too far. > No shit. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 August 2014 10:08:59 Bret Busby wrote: > I disagree with you on a number of points, but, I believe, it would be > inappropriate to further discuss these points, in this thread, and, on > this list. Good for you and sorry. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Australian law was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 August 2014 09:44:31 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > I wonder about Kirby myself.  To me, it shouldn't be the court deciding > a matter of fact via *their* opinion.  If the law says "xa" and the > opinion says "xb" ... then it is up to the parliament to correct the > situation if it is fault

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 04/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: >> [...] >> > > Yeah, okay. > > But, some people with whom I have communicated, do not want others to > see them, when they are talking to them. > > And, to me, Skype was a wonderful facility - video calls are a >

use of video w/skype [was: Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7]

2014-08-04 Thread ken
On 08/04/2014 01:36 AM Bret Busby wrote: How many different people do you want to be able to video chat with? >What's your purpose? Figure out what you want to do, and you probably >don't need skype at all. > Relatives and acquaintances (for me), would be good, and, some people of whom I have no

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi Bret, > > On 3/08/2014 8:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here: http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/ >>> That applies only to Victoria - I believe that, like motor vehicle >

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Bret, On 3/08/2014 8:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here: >>> http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/ >>> >> That applies only to Victoria - I believe that, like motor vehicle >> roadworthiness testing, human rights legislatio

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 04/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >> >> >> >>> And the reas

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread mett
On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 03:05:28 -0400 Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bret Busby > wrote: > > > > I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently > > cancelled Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. > > > > With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > > > >> And the reason I decided to respond was to ask your reason fo

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 05:30:47 +1000 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the > > service) whether it be open or closed source, > > What about Google Han

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Mark Carroll
Bret Busby writes: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >>> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) >>> whether it be open or closed source, >> >> What about Goo

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Microsoft and Google are great big US companies ... that's a problem > just to start with; the US Government or any of their agents can easily > destroy all your privacy any time they like. Are you assuming US companies only gangrape your

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> > >> >>> And, in terms of party polit

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > >> I do not have a smart phone - I have an "Oldies Phone" - an unblocked >> Telstra

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > I do not have a smart phone - I have an "Oldies Phone" - an unblocked > Telstra EasyCall, with decent sized buttons, made in Taiwan,

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> In terms of hardware, I don't want any fingerprint readers, nor do I >> want any other unwanted spying /tools/ to be available to the spooks. >> Anything with Intel inside is also suspect for similar reasons to the

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >>> wrote: > If you have a smart phone, chances are it is Android (Google owned IP > and control) or iOS (Apple owned IP and control). Even if you have a > Linux based phone (oth

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> What about Google Hangouts? That might be a reasonable substitute >>> >> Google? That is even more sinister than the NSA, isn't it? The NSA >> doesn't drive around suburbia, filming everyone in their yard

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > There must be an alternative to Skype. > > http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/fed-up-with-skype-here-are-6-of-the-best-free-alternatives/ In theory but not in practice - unless you want to use one of the above and talk to yourself. -- To UN

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > > I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled > Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. > > With the error message that I encountered, with my Skype 2.2 (beta) > running on Debian 6, I went to the Skype web site

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Paul Ausbeck
What is the difference between Microsoft insisting that Bret upgrade from Debian 6 to 7 and other Debian users insisting that Bret upgrade from Debian 6 to 7. Don't Debians know why they don't like Microsoft? !systemd, !systemd, !systemd On 8/2/2014 4:55 PM, Bret Busby wrote: On 03/08/2014, J

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 03, 2014 at 06:42:38AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: > > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > >> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) > >> whether it be

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread AW
Unfortunately, software has bugs. Some of these bugs are probably very bad. I don't work for Microsoft, and I don't use Skype. In fact, I haven't used a Microsoft product in many years --- and I would refuse to use one now mostly on principle However, I wouldn't be too surprised that there's

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, AW wrote: >> > > > >> So, for many users a Skype client is necessary... unless Microsoft >> decided to work on making Skype fully interoperable with other SIP >> servers. Although, I somehow doubt this would ever happen. >> >> But... To the OP..

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, AW wrote: > > So, for many users a Skype client is necessary... unless Microsoft > decided to work on making Skype fully interoperable with other SIP > servers. Although, I somehow doubt this would ever happen. > > But... To the OP... Debian 6 is no longer a supported version. >

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan >> wrote: >>> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > And the reason I decided to respond was to ask your reason for not > wanting to use wheezy. Or, rather, if your reason is m

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread AW
I've tried linphone once or twice. The basic issue with SIP phones is that it's not really possible to jump networks. It's kind of like a cellphone network where you can only dial other subscribers of the same network. http://en.flossmanuals.net/linphone/ So, for many users a Skype client is ne

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Any experiences with linphone, an open source, multi-platform alternative? > -- > Regards, > jvp. > > Hello. Yes - I tried that, to connect with another person using Linux, and it did not work. Queries were posted to the Linphone list, in February last

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >>> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >>> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) >>> whether it be open or close

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
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Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Brian wrote: > On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I have found, in the last day, that Microsoft has apparently cancelled >> Skype access for versions of Debian before 7.x. > > How did you find out? (Please excuse the verbose and convoluted mat

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) >> whether it be open or closed source, > > What about Google Hangouts? That might be a r

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Bret Busby
On 03/08/2014, Stephen Maxwell wrote: > > Hello, > > There was an email sent out by Skype within the last couple of weeks which > stated that I was using an old version of skype that would cease to function > if I > did not update (deleted the email). > I did not receive that email message. Belo

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 3/08/2014 4:39 AM, Brian wrote: > On Sun 03 Aug 2014 at 01:29:57 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > There is no substitute for Skype (either the software or the service) > whether it be open or closed source, What about Google Hangouts? That might be a reasonable substitute I haven't used Skype

Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-02 Thread Stephen Maxwell
Hello, There was an email sent out by Skype within the last couple of weeks which stated that I was using an old version of skype that would cease to function if I did not update (deleted the email). The below post on the Skype blog states "So everyone can benefit from the latest improvemen

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