Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-17 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 15, 2018 01:51:30 PM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > (My understanding of SMTP may be faulty, but, AIUI, if your ISP is your > SMTP server, email is stored there (unless deleted) (so that you can > access it from more than one of your computers. For the record: 1) My statement

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Jan 2018 at 16:22:26 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:42:34PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 15 Jan 2018 at 14:51:56 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:34:33PM +0100, Jonathan Sélea wrote: > > > > > > > > As other people alrea

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-16 Thread Jonathan Sélea
On 01/15/18 22:30, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:56:20PM +0100, Jonathan Sélea wrote: I would not recommend having a emailserver on the same server as a website, because if the website is compromised the "hacker" can just use the mail() function to send

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:56:20PM +0100, Jonathan Sélea wrote: > >> I would not recommend having a emailserver on the same server as a > >> website, because if the website is compromised the "hacker" can just use > >> the mail() function > >> to send emails in your name. > > so can she/he if the m

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:42:34PM +, Brian wrote: > On Mon 15 Jan 2018 at 14:51:56 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:34:33PM +0100, Jonathan Sélea wrote: > > > > > > As other people already have said - do you really need emailserver of > > > this kind? > > > >

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Jan 2018 at 14:08:35 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, January 15, 2018 01:58:08 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:51:30PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Does the SMTP server encrypt both between it and the "client" and between > > > it and the ot

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Jan 2018 at 14:51:56 -0500, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:34:33PM +0100, Jonathan Sélea wrote: > > > > As other people already have said - do you really need emailserver of > > this kind? > > This however is a valid question. A full functional mailserver requires

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 15 Jan 2018 at 13:51:30 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, January 15, 2018 12:53:20 PM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > On Mon 15/Jan/2018 16:23:54 +0100 rhkramer wrote: > > > On Monday, January 15, 2018 04:39:17 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > > >> Since most email messages are sent

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Jonathan Sélea
>> I would not recommend having a emailserver on the same server as a >> website, because if the website is compromised the "hacker" can just use >> the mail() function >> to send emails in your name. > so can she/he if the mailserver is on a different host. That doesn't make > any difference. It w

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:34:33PM +0100, Jonathan Sélea wrote: > > > On 2018-01-15 00:19, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 16:43:53 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >> On Sunday, January 14, 2018 02:26:03 PM Brian wrote: > >>> On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 12:49:46 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 08:34:33PM +0100, Jonathan Sélea wrote: > I would not recommend having a emailserver on the same server as a > website, because if the website is compromised the "hacker" can just use > the mail() function > to send emails in your name. This can be done regardless of whethe

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Jonathan Sélea
On 2018-01-15 00:19, Brian wrote: > On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 16:43:53 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sunday, January 14, 2018 02:26:03 PM Brian wrote: >>> On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 12:49:46 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:36:40 AM J.W. Foster wrote: > I

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:58:08PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:51:30PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Does the SMTP server encrypt both between it and the "client" and between > > it > > and the other end destination / source? > > No, not always. Plaintext S

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 15, 2018 01:58:08 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:51:30PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Does the SMTP server encrypt both between it and the "client" and between > > it and the other end destination / source? > > No, not always. Plaintext SMTP is the

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 01:51:30PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Does the SMTP server encrypt both between it and the "client" and between it > and the other end destination / source? No, not always. Plaintext SMTP is the default for transferring mail from one server to another. Basicall

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 15, 2018 12:53:20 PM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Mon 15/Jan/2018 16:23:54 +0100 rhkramer wrote: > > On Monday, January 15, 2018 04:39:17 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > >> Since most email messages are sent in cleartext, it is also worth to > >> note explicitly the difference in

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 15/Jan/2018 16:23:54 +0100 rhkramer wrote: > On Monday, January 15, 2018 04:39:17 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> Since most email messages are sent in cleartext, it is also worth to note >> explicitly the difference in terms of privacy between receiving and >> collecting. > > I don't unders

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, January 15, 2018 04:39:17 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > Since most email messages are sent in cleartext, it is also worth to note > explicitly the difference in terms of privacy between receiving and > collecting. I don't understand, can you (or someone) attempt to clarify / amplify?

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Mon 15/Jan/2018 00:19:24 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 16:43:53 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sunday, January 14, 2018 02:26:03 PM Brian wrote: >>> On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 12:49:46 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:36:40 AM J.W. Foster wr

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 16:43:53 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 02:26:03 PM Brian wrote: > > On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 12:49:46 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:36:40 AM J.W. Foster wrote: > > > > I am looking for a reliable step by st

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, January 14, 2018 02:26:03 PM Brian wrote: > On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 12:49:46 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:36:40 AM J.W. Foster wrote: > > > I am looking for a reliable step by step process for setting up an > > > email server located on an existing we

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread deloptes
basti wrote: > exim users mailing list would be a good place for your question I think. > basti, first of all we do not top post and second we reply to the message we intend to answer. As I've been using exim extensively and was part of team supporting cloud with exim and imap (dovecot), I can t

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread Joe
On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 15:36:40 + (UTC) "J.W. Foster" wrote: > I am looking for a reliable step by step process for setting up an > email server located on an existing website server. As you say, you won't have trouble finding basic instructions. What you probably won't find is exactly what you

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 12:49:46 -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:36:40 AM J.W. Foster wrote: > > I am looking for a reliable step by step process for setting up an email > > server located on an existing website server. I have installed; exim4 > > light, dovecot, T

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 14 Jan 2018 at 15:36:40 +, J.W. Foster wrote: > I am looking for a reliable step by step process for setting up an > email server located on an existing website server. I have installed;  > exim4 light, dovecot, Thunderbird, OpenSSL, and TLS security. I have > tried following several bi

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread basti
exim users mailing list would be a good place for your question I think. On 14.01.2018 19:40, deloptes wrote: > J.W. Foster wrote: > >> I am looking for a reliable step by step process for setting up an email >> server located on an existing website server. I have installed;  exim4 >> light, dove

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread deloptes
J.W. Foster wrote: > I am looking for a reliable step by step process for setting up an email > server located on an existing website server. I have installed;  exim4 > light, dovecot, Thunderbird, OpenSSL, and TLS security. I have tried > following several bits of documentation regarding this wit

Re: Secure email server setup

2018-01-14 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:36:40 AM J.W. Foster wrote: > I am looking for a reliable step by step process for setting up an email > server located on an existing website server. I have installed; exim4 > light, dovecot, Thunderbird, OpenSSL, and TLS security. I have tried > following several b