Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-19 Thread Michal
It's all well and good saying "ignorant windows users" but most people in general don't give a toss about computers as long as they work and they can do what they want. And as for saying debian is far more secure, in principle your right, but in reality that's still ignorant. Linux isn't really tar

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:43:31 + Tom Furie wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 04:04:09PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > > Mark writes: > > > ...is it a correct statement to say that these spyware/malware/virus > > > .exe type files that try to install on a given machine, are virtually > > > usele

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 04:04:09PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Mark writes: > > ...is it a correct statement to say that these spyware/malware/virus > > .exe type files that try to install on a given machine, are virtually > > useless against Debian systems unless the user logs in as root to > > a

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,18.Feb.10, 16:04:09, John Hasler wrote: > You could, in theory, be tricked into downloading a Linux executable, > installing it under your home directory, and running it. It would then > have access to all of your personal files. If the compromised account is the same account used to su/

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Mark
>On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Paul E Condon >wrote: > >Now, it looks to me like same-old-same-old. If so, the worry > >morphs into a worry about an onslaught of newbies moving to Debian and > >flooding this list with silly newbie questions (like mine of not so > >long ago). But that really is

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread John Hasler
Mark writes: > ...is it a correct statement to say that these spyware/malware/virus > .exe type files that try to install on a given machine, are virtually > useless against Debian systems unless the user logs in as root to > allow installation? If they are Microsoft Windows ".exe type files" (whi

RE: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread James Wu
would download them, switch to root to install and voila, infected machine. James -Original Message- From: Paul E Condon [mailto:pecon...@mesanetworks.net] Sent: February 18, 2010 4:59 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today On 201002

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100218_132513, Mark wrote: > > > > >On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:25:04 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > Today in Wall Street Journal (pg 3 in US edition), there is an article > > > about hacker break-ins to computers via the internet. Mentioned as the > > > method of break-in are spyware called

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:25:13 -0500 (EST), mamar...@gmail.com wrote: > > As someone still learning about Debian/Linux, is it a correct statement to > say that these spyware/malware/virus .exe type files that try to install on > a given machine, are virtually useless against Debian systems unless the

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Mark
> > >On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:25:04 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > Today in Wall Street Journal (pg 3 in US edition), there is an article > > about hacker break-ins to computers via the internet. Mentioned as the > > method of break-in are spyware called ZeuS, and Firefox browser, but no > > menti

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:25:04 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > Today in Wall Street Journal (pg 3 in US edition), there is an article > about hacker break-ins to computers via the internet. Mentioned as the > method of break-in are spyware called ZeuS, and Firefox browser, but no > mention of what OS

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul E Condon wrote: > Today in Wall Street Journal (pg 3 in US edition), there is an article > about hacker break-ins to computers via the internet. Mentioned as the > method of break-in are spyware called ZeuS, and Firefox browser, but > no mention o

Re: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 2/18/10, Paul E Condon wrote: > Today in Wall Street Journal (pg 3 in US edition), there is an article > about hacker break-ins to computers via the internet. Mentioned as the > method of break-in are spyware called ZeuS, and Firefox browser, but > no mention of what OS are aflicted. > > I assu

RE: Scary article in Wall Street Journal today

2010-02-18 Thread James Wu
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870439880457507110383415053 6.html The diagram shows that the attack still required the end user to click and download a file and execute it. Conceptually, this is no worse than running downloading hackme.exe and double clicking on it. There is an inher