On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 01:01:42PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> Do you mean the SmartList mentioned here[1]? ;)
>
> [1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
>
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On Sun,03.Jan.10, 13:18:59, Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> >
> > Hmm.. what exactly is your 'smartlist'?
>
> "Was" my smartlist. It was an attempt at a social list among fiends back in
> the day, when I fell in love with email and the usenet and th
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:41:51AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 17:00:11 -0800
> Freeman wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > I am forever struggling to keep posts brief, to be expeditious in editing
> > them down, to get to the point, to include vital details, and to somehow
> > avoid being disin
On Monday 04 January 2010 06:31:57 Chris Jones wrote:
> > Erratum: proprietorial :-(
> >
> > I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I
> > aim for "e". It happens, however, quite often. :-(
>
> Whichever way you spell it, I don't think there is such a word..??
Th
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:00:11PM -0800, Freeman wrote:
>
> LOL. The perpetual human problem. One can only hope to know less. Yet I wish
> I knew more.
>
Ars longa, vita brevis est - There's a lot to learn and life is short :)
>
> I am forever struggling to keep posts brief, to be expeditious
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 08:00:11PM EST, Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:39:14PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > Oh, oh.. sorry, I know next to nothing - i.e. I only know that I
> > know nothing :-) - about this area of computing, and resorted to
> > guessing your meaning, and what
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:39:51 -0700
RobertHoltzman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth that
> > spam consumes really that expensive (eSpam in e-mail started to become
> > a problem when the Intern
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 17:00:11 -0800
Freeman wrote:
...
> I am forever struggling to keep posts brief, to be expeditious in editing
> them down, to get to the point, to include vital details, and to somehow
> avoid being disingenuous. %0
"In the days when I was sitting in his class, he omitted so
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:02:08PM EST, Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 03 January 2010 23:49:12 Lisi wrote:
> > propriatorial
>
> Erratum: proprietorial :-(
>
> I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I aim
> for "e". It happens, however, quite often. :-(
Whichever w
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:49:12PM EST, Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 03 January 2010 22:39:14 Chris Jones wrote:
> > maybe Smartlist with a capital 'S', or 'smartlist' with quotes,
> > which would have put me on the right track to guessing that you were
> > referring to a software package and 'my-smartl
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:39:14PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:18:59PM EST, Freeman wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > > > My smartlist had that and a monthly FAQ. I believe it was a
> > > > feature of the program. Bu
On Sunday 03 January 2010 23:49:12 Lisi wrote:
> propriatorial
Erratum: proprietorial :-(
I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I aim
for "e". It happens, however, quite often. :-(
Lisi
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On Sunday 03 January 2010 22:39:14 Chris Jones wrote:
> maybe Smartlist with a capital 'S', or 'smartlist' with quotes,
> which would have put me on the right track to guessing that you were
> referring to a software package and 'my-smartlist' your personal
> implementation thereof.
My interpretat
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:18:59PM EST, Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > > My smartlist had that and a monthly FAQ. I believe it was a
> > > feature of the program. But a simple cron job could post a FAQ.
> > Hmm.. what exactly is your 'smar
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:26:40AM +, s. keeling wrote:
> John Hasler :
> > Celejar writes:
> > > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
> >
> > Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a
> > social one.
>
> Damn, I love your posts.
>
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:29:23PM EST, Freeman wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > > HNY, anyways..
> >
> > It would seem simple if the priority were high enough.
> >
> > The welc
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:30:24PM EST, Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 11:39:51AM -0700, RobertHoltzman wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > > Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth
> > > that spam consumes really that expensive
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:29:23PM EST, Freeman wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> [..]
>
> > > HNY, anyways..
> >
> > It would seem simple if the priority were high enough.
> >
> > The welc
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:29:23PM EST, Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
[..]
> > HNY, anyways..
>
> It would seem simple if the priority were high enough.
>
> The welcome message for new subscribers could say something.
Not sure that would do any
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:20:26AM +, s. keeling wrote:
> RobertHoltzman :
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale=EF=BF=BDn wrote:
> > >
> > > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-)
> >
> > I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-)
>
> Trust me, ya
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 11:39:51AM -0700, RobertHoltzman wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
> >
> > Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth that
> > spam consumes really that expensive (eSpam in e-mail started to become
> > a problem when the
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 06:55:59AM EST, Camaleón wrote:
> > On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >
> > >> Finding technical solutions to a so
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote:
>
> Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth that
> spam consumes really that expensive (eSpam in e-mail started to become
> a problem when the Internet was opened up to the general public in the
> mid-1990s. It grew e
On 2010-01-03 at 10:44:12 -0500, T o n g wrote:
> Blame the WYGIWYS/html mailer!
>
> They are the actual reason why the indenting instead of nested '>'s. If
> you ever use those mailer following discussions, you will remember those
> grey vertical bars at the beginning of the lines indicating t
Celejar writes:
> Why is the one technical and the other social?
Shooting is technical because it requires a tool: the gun. Strangling,
on the other hand, requires no tools at all but does require intense
social interaction.
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:26:59 -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> I see this:
>
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:42:39 +0200
Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,02.Jan.10, 22:23:25, Celejar wrote:
>
> > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
> > Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about?
>
> Exactly my point. Spam filtering kinda works, but i
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:13:18 -0500 (EST)
Stephen Powell wrote:
> On 2010-01-02 at 22:23:25 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
> > Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about?
>
> I wouldn't call spam filtering a "solution"
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:26:40 GMT
"s. keeling" wrote:
> John Hasler :
> > Celejar writes:
> > > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
> >
> > Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a
> > social one.
>
> Damn, I love your posts.
I do,
On 2010-01-02 at 22:23:25 -0500, Celejar wrote:
> What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
> Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about?
I wouldn't call spam filtering a "solution" to the spam problem.
spam still exists and still gets through, though not
On Sat,02.Jan.10, 22:23:25, Celejar wrote:
> What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
> Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about?
Exactly my point. Spam filtering kinda works, but is not really a
solution. Although you don't get to see much of the sp
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:20:26AM +, s. keeling wrote:
> RobertHoltzman :
> >
> > > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-)
> >
> > I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-)
>
> Trust me, ya gotta be careful with that kind of thinking. There were
> a lot of people who
RobertHoltzman :
>
> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale=EF=BF=BDn wrote:
> >
> > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-)
>
> I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-)
Trust me, ya gotta be careful with that kind of thinking. There were
a lot of people who t
John Hasler :
> Celejar writes:
> > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
>
> Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a
> social one.
Damn, I love your posts.
Sorry, but shooting them is a philosophical problem first ("Should
we?"). Th
Celejar writes:
> What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems?
Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a
social one.
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500
Chris Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
...
> > Finding technical solutions to a social problems? Good luck!
>
> Of course not, first we use the techical to determine who's who and
> who's doing what and then we shoo
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 12:46:03PM EST, RobertHoltzman wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale�n wrote:
> >
> > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-)
>
> I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-)
:-)
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On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 06:55:59AM EST, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
> >> Finding technical solutions to a social problems? Good luck!
> >
> > Of course not, first we use the techic
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale�n wrote:
>
> Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-)
I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-)
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> Finding technical solutions to a social problems? Good luck!
>
> Of course not, first we use the techical to determine who's who and
> who's doing what and then we shoot the
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:49:56AM EST, s. keeling wrote:
> Chris Jones :
[...]
> > More to the point, couldn't the list managing program identify
> > those messages and email back the perps that it is very very
> > naughty and they need to stop doing it immediately, or else be
> > spanked or
Chris Jones :
> On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Fri,01.Jan.10, 13:26:59, Chris Jones wrote:
> > > I noticed that some e-mails come back to this (and other) mailing lists
> > > with the traditional '>' quote markers removed.
> >
> > [...]
> [snip]
> More to t
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Fri,01.Jan.10, 13:26:59, Chris Jones wrote:
> > I noticed that some e-mails come back to this (and other) mailing lists
> > with the traditional '>' quote markers removed.
>
> [...]
>
> > Is this caused by 'poster four' in the ab
On Fri,01.Jan.10, 13:26:59, Chris Jones wrote:
> I noticed that some e-mails come back to this (and other) mailing lists
> with the traditional '>' quote markers removed.
[...]
> Is this caused by 'poster four' in the above example having manually
> removed the markers, or is an attempt from the
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