Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-08 Thread freeman
On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 01:01:42PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Do you mean the SmartList mentioned here[1]? ;) > > [1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > Regards, > Andrei > -- > Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-c

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,03.Jan.10, 13:18:59, Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > > > Hmm.. what exactly is your 'smartlist'? > > "Was" my smartlist. It was an attempt at a social list among fiends back in > the day, when I fell in love with email and the usenet and th

Re: [OT] How to compose email [WAS] Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-04 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:41:51AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 17:00:11 -0800 > Freeman wrote: > > ... > > > I am forever struggling to keep posts brief, to be expeditious in editing > > them down, to get to the point, to include vital details, and to somehow > > avoid being disin

Re: Erratum - Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-04 Thread Lisi
On Monday 04 January 2010 06:31:57 Chris Jones wrote: > > Erratum: proprietorial :-(   > > > > I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I > > aim for "e".  It happens, however, quite often. :-( > > Whichever way you spell it, I don't think there is such a word..?? Th

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:00:11PM -0800, Freeman wrote: > > LOL. The perpetual human problem. One can only hope to know less. Yet I wish > I knew more. > Ars longa, vita brevis est - There's a lot to learn and life is short :) > > I am forever struggling to keep posts brief, to be expeditious

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 08:00:11PM EST, Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:39:14PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: [..] > > Oh, oh.. sorry, I know next to nothing - i.e. I only know that I > > know nothing :-) - about this area of computing, and resorted to > > guessing your meaning, and what

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:39:51 -0700 RobertHoltzman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth that > > spam consumes really that expensive (eSpam in e-mail started to become > > a problem when the Intern

[OT] How to compose email [WAS] Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 17:00:11 -0800 Freeman wrote: ... > I am forever struggling to keep posts brief, to be expeditious in editing > them down, to get to the point, to include vital details, and to somehow > avoid being disingenuous. %0 "In the days when I was sitting in his class, he omitted so

Re: Erratum - Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:02:08PM EST, Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2010 23:49:12 Lisi wrote: > > propriatorial > > Erratum: proprietorial :-( > > I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I aim > for "e". It happens, however, quite often. :-( Whichever w

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 06:49:12PM EST, Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 03 January 2010 22:39:14 Chris Jones wrote: > > maybe Smartlist with a capital 'S', or 'smartlist' with quotes, > > which would have put me on the right track to guessing that you were > > referring to a software package and 'my-smartl

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:39:14PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:18:59PM EST, Freeman wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > [..] > > > > > My smartlist had that and a monthly FAQ. I believe it was a > > > > feature of the program. Bu

Erratum - Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 January 2010 23:49:12 Lisi wrote: > propriatorial Erratum: proprietorial :-( I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I aim for "e". It happens, however, quite often. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 January 2010 22:39:14 Chris Jones wrote: > maybe Smartlist with a capital 'S', or 'smartlist' with quotes, > which would have put me on the right track to guessing that you were > referring to a software package and 'my-smartlist' your personal > implementation thereof. My interpretat

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:18:59PM EST, Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: [..] > > > My smartlist had that and a monthly FAQ. I believe it was a > > > feature of the program. But a simple cron job could post a FAQ. > > Hmm.. what exactly is your 'smar

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:26:40AM +, s. keeling wrote: > John Hasler : > > Celejar writes: > > > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? > > > > Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a > > social one. > > Damn, I love your posts. >

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:29:23PM EST, Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > [..] > > > > HNY, anyways.. > > > > It would seem simple if the priority were high enough. > > > > The welc

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:30:24PM EST, Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 11:39:51AM -0700, RobertHoltzman wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth > > > that spam consumes really that expensive

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:50:32PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:29:23PM EST, Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > [..] > > > > HNY, anyways.. > > > > It would seem simple if the priority were high enough. > > > > The welc

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 03:29:23PM EST, Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: [..] > > HNY, anyways.. > > It would seem simple if the priority were high enough. > > The welcome message for new subscribers could say something. Not sure that would do any

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:20:26AM +, s. keeling wrote: > RobertHoltzman : > > > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale=EF=BF=BDn wrote: > > > > > > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-) > > > > I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-) > > Trust me, ya

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 11:39:51AM -0700, RobertHoltzman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth that > > spam consumes really that expensive (eSpam in e-mail started to become > > a problem when the

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:18:27PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 06:55:59AM EST, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > >> Finding technical solutions to a so

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread RobertHoltzman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 09:26:54AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > Is this really true? Is the total amount of upstream bandwidth that > spam consumes really that expensive (eSpam in e-mail started to become > a problem when the Internet was opened up to the general public in the > mid-1990s. It grew e

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Stephen Powell
On 2010-01-03 at 10:44:12 -0500, T o n g wrote: > Blame the WYGIWYS/html mailer! > > They are the actual reason why the indenting instead of nested '>'s. If > you ever use those mailer following discussions, you will remember those > grey vertical bars at the beginning of the lines indicating t

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > Why is the one technical and the other social? Shooting is technical because it requires a tool: the gun. Strangling, on the other hand, requires no tools at all but does require intense social interaction. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread T o n g
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 13:26:59 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > I see this: > > +--- > Message | Comments > +--- >

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 10:42:39 +0200 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sat,02.Jan.10, 22:23:25, Celejar wrote: > > > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? > > Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about? > > Exactly my point. Spam filtering kinda works, but i

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:13:18 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: > On 2010-01-02 at 22:23:25 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? > > Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about? > > I wouldn't call spam filtering a "solution"

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:26:40 GMT "s. keeling" wrote: > John Hasler : > > Celejar writes: > > > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? > > > > Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a > > social one. > > Damn, I love your posts. I do,

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Stephen Powell
On 2010-01-02 at 22:23:25 -0500, Celejar wrote: > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? > Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about? I wouldn't call spam filtering a "solution" to the spam problem. spam still exists and still gets through, though not

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,02.Jan.10, 22:23:25, Celejar wrote: > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? > Isn't that what things like spam filtering are all about? Exactly my point. Spam filtering kinda works, but is not really a solution. Although you don't get to see much of the sp

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread RobertHoltzman
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 05:20:26AM +, s. keeling wrote: > RobertHoltzman : > > > > > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-) > > > > I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-) > > Trust me, ya gotta be careful with that kind of thinking. There were > a lot of people who

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread s. keeling
RobertHoltzman : > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale=EF=BF=BDn wrote: > > > > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-) > > I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-) Trust me, ya gotta be careful with that kind of thinking. There were a lot of people who t

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread s. keeling
John Hasler : > Celejar writes: > > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? > > Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a > social one. Damn, I love your posts. Sorry, but shooting them is a philosophical problem first ("Should we?"). Th

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > What's wrong with using technical solutions to solve social problems? Shooting them is a technical solution. Strangling them would be a social one. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500 Chris Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: ... > > Finding technical solutions to a social problems? Good luck! > > Of course not, first we use the techical to determine who's who and > who's doing what and then we shoo

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 12:46:03PM EST, RobertHoltzman wrote: > On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale�n wrote: > > > > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-) > > I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-) :-) CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 06:55:59AM EST, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > >> Finding technical solutions to a social problems? Good luck! > > > > Of course not, first we use the techic

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread RobertHoltzman
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 11:55:59AM +, Camale�n wrote: > > Educating them it always better than "shooting" them ;-) I dunno, thinning the herd has its merits :-) -- Bob Holtzman GPG key ID = 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch check the price of the beer. signature.asc Descript

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:50:47 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> Finding technical solutions to a social problems? Good luck! > > Of course not, first we use the techical to determine who's who and > who's doing what and then we shoot the

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Jan 02, 2010 at 03:49:56AM EST, s. keeling wrote: > Chris Jones : [...] > > More to the point, couldn't the list managing program identify > > those messages and email back the perps that it is very very > > naughty and they need to stop doing it immediately, or else be > > spanked or

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-02 Thread s. keeling
Chris Jones : > On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Fri,01.Jan.10, 13:26:59, Chris Jones wrote: > > > I noticed that some e-mails come back to this (and other) mailing lists > > > with the traditional '>' quote markers removed. > > > > [...] > [snip] > More to t

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-01 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:33:32PM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri,01.Jan.10, 13:26:59, Chris Jones wrote: > > I noticed that some e-mails come back to this (and other) mailing lists > > with the traditional '>' quote markers removed. > > [...] > > > Is this caused by 'poster four' in the ab

Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,01.Jan.10, 13:26:59, Chris Jones wrote: > I noticed that some e-mails come back to this (and other) mailing lists > with the traditional '>' quote markers removed. [...] > Is this caused by 'poster four' in the above example having manually > removed the markers, or is an attempt from the