Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On 09/11/2018 20.40, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 06:59:48PM +0300, Reco wrote: lxde-core depends on www-browser already (Suggests, actually, but that's irrelevant). So it might as well depend on this to-be-done x-www-browser. Yes. That's exactly what I am advocating in the

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 11:12:29AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: Can a package depend on a non-existant virtual package? It can, but this is likely a bug if it happens. Is x-www-browser due to be added to the official Debian virtual package list? I'm advocating for x-www-browser to exist, but

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 06:59:48PM +0300, Reco wrote: lxde-core depends on www-browser already (Suggests, actually, but that's irrelevant). So it might as well depend on this to-be-done x-www-browser. Yes. That's exactly what I am advocating in the bug I reported about this (=833268, in 2016).

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On 09/11/2018 00.59, Reco wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 03:53:54PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:53:01AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: www-browser and x-www-browser being different things, this would be a bug in the LXDE metapackage? It is indeed, yes,* but what's t

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

Hi. On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 03:53:54PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:53:01AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: > > www-browser and x-www-browser being different things, this would be a bug > > in the LXDE metapackage? > > It is indeed, yes,* but what's the fix: wha

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 10:53:01AM +0900, John Crawley wrote: www-browser and x-www-browser being different things, this would be a bug in the LXDE metapackage? It is indeed, yes,* but what's the fix: what should the metapackage actually depend upon, given x-www-browser virtual package does not

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On 08/11/2018 00.47, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 05:50:02PM +0300, Reco wrote: So it kind of makes sense for gnome-core to depend on gnome-www-browser, isn't it? Or there's a reason why using gnome-www-browser is unsuitable for GNOME DE? Yeah that makes perfect sense in tha

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On 11/5/18, David Parker wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running Debian 9.5 (amd64) and attempting to uninstall firefox-esr. > However, apt says that gnome and gnome-core are among the packages which > will also be uninstalled. Does anyone know why Gnome apparently depends on > firefox-esr, and how I can

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 05:50:02PM +0300, Reco wrote: So it kind of makes sense for gnome-core to depend on gnome-www-browser, isn't it? Or there's a reason why using gnome-www-browser is unsuitable for GNOME DE? Yeah that makes perfect sense in that case. I think we need an x-www-browser for s

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

Hi. On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 12:42:39PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:24:22PM -0500, David Parker wrote: > > Thanks for the information. I guess I'm just surprised that the > > dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium. Seems like other > > bro

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:24:22PM -0500, David Parker wrote: Thanks for the information. I guess I'm just surprised that the dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium. Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. This is partially because we don't ha

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48AM -0500, David Parker wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running Debian 9.5 (amd64) and attempting to uninstall firefox-esr. > However, apt says that gnome and gnome-core are among the packages which > will also be uninstalled. Does anyone know why Gnome apparently depends o

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On 06/11/2018 04.24, David Parker wrote: Thanks for the information.  I guess I'm just surprised that the dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium.  Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-note

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On 2018-11-05, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48AM -0500, David Parker wrote: >> Does anyone know why Gnome apparently depends on >> firefox-esr, and how I can just uninstall firefox-esr and leave Gnome alone? > > apt-cache show gnome-core | grep Depends > > It says "... fire

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On 06/11/2018 08:37, Reco wrote: Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. It's been two years since they discontinued Iceweasel. Iceweasel was just Debian's Firefox rebranded to address trademark and logo licensing issues

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

Hi. On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 02:24:22PM -0500, David Parker wrote: > Thanks for the information. I guess I'm just surprised that the > dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium. Other browsers don't have whatever it takes to make chrome-gnome-shell working. Or are proprieta

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

Thanks for the information. I guess I'm just surprised that the dependencies are limited to firefox/firefox-esr/chromium. Seems like other browsers like Iceweasel are just arbitrarily left out. - Dave On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 12:01 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48AM -0500, David Parker wrote: > Does anyone know why Gnome apparently depends on > firefox-esr, and how I can just uninstall firefox-esr and leave Gnome alone? apt-cache show gnome-core | grep Depends It says "... firefox-esr (>= 30) | firefox (>= 30) | chromium ..

Re: Removing firefox-esr also removes gnome

Hi. On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 11:55:48AM -0500, David Parker wrote: > Hello, > > I'm running Debian 9.5 (amd64) and attempting to uninstall firefox-esr. > However, apt says that gnome and gnome-core are among the packages which > will also be uninstalled. Does anyone know why Gnome apparen