On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 01:11:26PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 05:27:54AM EST, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > I wouldn't remove any changelog files because I think that is how
> > apt/dpkg (hence aptitude, syntaptic, etc) know the package version.
>
> Thanks for your recommendation
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 05:27:54AM EST, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:24:46AM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > As far as /usr/share/doc if you are _really_ short on disk space, you
> > could burn it to a CD, then remove the _contents_ of each directory (or at
> > least t
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 05:28:35AM EST, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:14:40PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > I tried locale + from a bash prompt on my sarge and found no
> > localepurge.
> >
> > I tried:
> >
> > $ locate locale | g purge
> >
> > .. and no joy either.
> >
> > T
On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 11:09:31AM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> yeah, sorry, I 'r'ed instead of 'L'ed...
No problem.
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On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 06:18:06PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:47:42AM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:14:40PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > you mention lots of locales you have no use for. localepurge will
> > > > remove these locales
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:24:46AM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> As far as /usr/share/doc if you are _really_ short on disk space, you
> could burn it to a CD, then remove the _contents_ of each directory (or at
> least the large files that concern you). Then upgrades will still put
> the s
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 06:09:19PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> In _my_ case it's really a question of "small is beautiful". Also, I'd
> like my system to be < 1G so that a compressed full-backup fits on a
> CD-R and runs under an hour on this ancient laptop of mine.
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/l
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:14:40PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> I tried locale + from a bash prompt on my sarge and found no
> localepurge.
>
> I tried:
>
> $ locate locale | g purge
>
> .. and no joy either.
>
> Then I did a "man locale" and looked for a purge option ("/purge") and
> couldn't find
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 09:47:42AM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:14:40PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > [...]
> > > you mention lots of locales you have no use for. localepurge will
> > > remove these locales for you. :)
> >
> > Sorry I missed your reply.
> >
> > I tried
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:14:40PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> [...]
> > you mention lots of locales you have no use for. localepurge will
> > remove these locales for you. :)
>
> Sorry I missed your reply.
>
> I tried locale + from a bash prompt on my sarge and found no
> localepurge.
>
> I trie
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:20:07AM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:09:46AM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:04:44PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:29:42PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > > > seems that all the locales
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 05:09:21PM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > > [...] or am
> > > I really *that* slow on typing? ;)
> >
> > gtypist? :-)
>
> > [...]
>
> Thanks a lot for the hint about gtypist. :-)
It's pretty good actually .. I
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 08:24:46AM EST, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
>
> > Is there any way I can have debian help me figure out if there is stuff
> > that should be removed such as libraries that nothing uses -- naturally
> > I did not rem
Greg Folkert wrote:
...
The issue here is that you only need to backup your data. Backups
of /usr and /var and so on mean nothing.
I think you're giving bad advice. Think about /var a little
more, for example:
/var/spool/mail/
/var/spool/cron/crontabs/
/var/lib/dpkg/info/
/var/log/
A /us
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > [...] or am
> > I really *that* slow on typing? ;)
>
> gtypist? :-)
> [...]
Thanks a lot for the hint about gtypist. :-)
Up to now I used ktouch but hated, that it pulls in that many
dependencies since I don't use KDE. So now I caould
FYI, the undesirable behaviour of debfoster2aptitude is caused by
a bug I just filed:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=409783
debfoster2aptitude calls debfoster but regardless of the exit
decision of the user it syncs /var/lib/debfoster/keepers to
/var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates. In m
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> Is there any way I can have debian help me figure out if there is stuff
> that should be removed such as libraries that nothing uses -- naturally
> I did not remove a single library myself.
>
Wow. I've read all the gawking you've trie
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:23:19PM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:07:32PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> > > This way you would really save time and could even keep your actual
> > > software selection without
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:14:37PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Mon February 5 2007 15:29, cga2000 wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:13:31PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote:
[...]
> I suspect (but haven't tried it) apt would be ok with stuff from /etc/share
> just going away. It would be put back on
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:09:46AM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:04:44PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:29:42PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > > seems that all the locales that I have no
> > > use for
> >
> > localepurge
>
> Not on my system.
yo
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:04:44PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:29:42PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > seems that all the locales that I have no
> > use for
>
> localepurge
Not on my system.
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On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 08:27:21PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:54:27PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
[..]
> > In any event, I never even _used_ the vast majority of these packages ..
> > let alone configure them .. My guess is that they got pulled in when I
> > installe
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 05:30:54AM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:54:43AM +0100, wrote:
> > Also debfoster2aptitude (provided by debfoster) might be of interest
> > for you. debfoster2aptitude because debfoster is deprecated by
> > aptitude, but this way you have can mig
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 07:54:27PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:48:34PM EST, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > cga2000, 06.02.2007 00:29:
> > > What bothers me, though, is that a lot of the stuff in /usr/share/ --
> > > one Meg here .. 600K there .. etc. apparently be
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:48:34PM EST, Mathias Brodala wrote:
> Hello.
>
> cga2000, 06.02.2007 00:29:
> > What bothers me, though, is that a lot of the stuff in /usr/share/ --
> > one Meg here .. 600K there .. etc. apparently belongs to packages I have
> > removed (apt-get remove package-name) ..
On Mon February 5 2007 15:29, cga2000 wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:13:31PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > On Sun February 4 2007 14:37, cga2000 wrote:
> > > I did notice that /usr/share/ has over 700M of stuff in it and this
> > > looks suspicious.
> >
> > That sounds about right. I have a base
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 06:29:42PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> seems that all the locales that I have no
> use for
localepurge
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> What bothers me, though, is that a lot of the stuff in /usr/share/ --
> one Meg here .. 600K there .. etc. apparently belongs to packages I have
> removed (apt-get remove package-name) .. Probably adds up to a hundred
> Meg or thereabout .. Looks like I should h
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 02:13:31PM EST, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Sun February 4 2007 14:37, cga2000 wrote:
>
> > I did notice that /usr/share/ has over 700M of stuff in it and this
> > looks suspicious.
>
> That sounds about right. I have a base install plus kde and my /usr/share/ is
> 1.8G. :)
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 01:49:43PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:37:50PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> >
> > I did notice that /usr/share/ has over 700M of stuff in it and this
> > looks suspicious.
>
> my /usr/share/doc has 154M of stuff, maybe you could kill some -do
On Sun February 4 2007 14:37, cga2000 wrote:
> I did notice that /usr/share/ has over 700M of stuff in it and this
> looks suspicious.
That sounds about right. I have a base install plus kde and my /usr/share/ is
1.8G. :)
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On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 05:37:50PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
>
> I did notice that /usr/share/ has over 700M of stuff in it and this
> looks suspicious.
my /usr/share/doc has 154M of stuff, maybe you could kill some -doc
packages... just a thought.
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On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 09:54:43AM +0100, wrote:
> Also debfoster2aptitude (provided by debfoster) might be of interest
> for you. debfoster2aptitude because debfoster is deprecated by
> aptitude, but this way you have can migrate your debfoster decision to
> aptitude. It can be run in interactiv
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 11:04:45PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> Is there any way I can have debian help me figure out if there is stuff
> that should be removed such as libraries that nothing uses -- naturally
> I did not remove a single library myself.
>
> I ran "deborphan -z" but at a glance it look
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:23:19PM EST, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:07:32PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> > This way you would really save time and could even keep your actual
> > software selection without backing up /etc.
>
> Oops, of course it has to be "... without
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 07:15:20PM EST, Dave Thayer wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 04:10:46PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > I think that on Debian, anything under /usr and /var (not /usr/local or
> > /var/local) should be considered to belong to apt.
>
> I got burned once not backing up
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 04:10:46PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> I think that on Debian, anything under /usr and /var (not /usr/local or
> /var/local) should be considered to belong to apt.
I got burned once not backing up /var/spool and losing my user
crontabs. You might get some grief loos
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:24:14PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:42:30PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:32:08PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > > > Is there a quick way to rem
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:51:13PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:06:57PM EST, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:42 -0500, cga2000 wrote:
>
> > The issue here is that you only need to backup your data. Backups
> > of /usr and /var and so on mean nothing.
>
> yo
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 09:07:32PM +0100, Marcus Blumhagen wrote:
> This way you would really save time and could even keep your actual
> software selection without backing up /etc.
Oops, of course it has to be "... without backing up /usr."
Anyway, mostly the other posters already wrote similar
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> that won't mess up apt..?
> If possible I would prefer not to remove a few gtk-based apps such as
> gpdf, gimp, and mozilla.
You should be able to achieve that goal by
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:06:57PM EST, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:42 -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > Sorry I was unclear.
> >
> > I want to remove all the crud from my system in order to be able to run
> > backups that are fast, small, and simple.
> >
> > I installed gnome and kd
On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:40:01 -0500
cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> that won't mess up apt..?
>
> If possible I would prefer not to remove a few gtk-based apps such as
> gpdf, gimp, and mozilla.
>
> The main objective is
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:06:57PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:42 -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > I want to remove all the crud from my system in order to be able to run
> > backups that are fast, small, and simple.
> >
> > I installed gnome and kde at one point but I never use
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:42:30PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:32:08PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > > Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> > > that won't mess up apt..?
>
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:42 -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> Sorry I was unclear.
>
> I want to remove all the crud from my system in order to be able to run
> backups that are fast, small, and simple.
>
> I installed gnome and kde at one point but I never use them.
>
> I have no intention of reinsta
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:59:13PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:44 -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:33:58PM EST, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > > On (04/02/07 12:40), cga2000 wrote:
> > > > Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> that won't mess up apt..?
>
> If possible I would prefer not to remove a few gtk-based apps such as
> gpdf, gimp, and mozilla.
>
> The main objective is to be able to
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:44 -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:33:58PM EST, Clive Menzies wrote:
> > On (04/02/07 12:40), cga2000 wrote:
> > > Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> > > that won't mess up apt..?
> > >
> > > If possible I would prefe
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:33:58PM EST, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (04/02/07 12:40), cga2000 wrote:
> > Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> > that won't mess up apt..?
> >
> > If possible I would prefer not to remove a few gtk-based apps such as
> > gpdf, gimp, a
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:32:08PM EST, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> > Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> > that won't mess up apt..?
>
> If I understand what you're trying to do, then I don't think t
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 12:40:01PM -0500, cga2000 wrote:
> Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> that won't mess up apt..?
If I understand what you're trying to do, then I don't think this is a
good solution. It introduces unecessary complication. That said, one
w
On (04/02/07 12:40), cga2000 wrote:
> Is there a quick way to remove the gnome and KDE desktop environments
> that won't mess up apt..?
>
> If possible I would prefer not to remove a few gtk-based apps such as
> gpdf, gimp, and mozilla.
>
> The main objective is to be able to run full system back
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