Re: Reading an old HDD

On Sun 06 Oct 2024 at 03:02:13 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: > * Henrik Ahlgren [24-10/06=Sun 11:20 +0300]: > > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 08:40 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > >> However, head movement isn't always audible. 3½" and 5¼" drives aren't > >> usually audible, although I've had a few very n

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Henrik Ahlgren [24-10/06=Sun 11:20 +0300]: > On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 08:40 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: >> However, head movement isn't always audible. 3½" and 5¼" drives aren't >> usually audible, although I've had a few very noisy 5¼ drives. And of >> course SSDs are utterly silent. > > I wonder

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Sat, 2024-10-05 at 08:40 -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > However, head movement isn't always audible. 3½" and 5¼" drives aren't > usually audible, although I've had a few very noisy 5¼ drives. And of > course SSDs are utterly silent. I wonder how ancient drives you are using? Have there even bee

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 23:44:01 -0700 Will Mengarini wrote: > As for the noise > of the heads, there was none, probably because the operating > system never saw the disk so never tried to read the disk. There is always head movement when a drive first spins up. Part of shutting a drive down is movin

Re: Reading an old HDD

> When I unplugged the transformer just now to store it, I > discovered that on the back it is labeled to output 12 volts > and 2.0 amps. That is 24 watts, which might not be enough to > spin up some hard drives. I'm not sure; it seems borderline. It should be OK and in any case it should be eas

Re: Reading an old HDD

>> https://storedbits.com says a 7200 RPM hard drive would normally consume >> 20-25W for 5-10 seconds during startup. It will then idle at around >> 6-8 watts. The average power consumption during read/write tasks >> will be around 8-12 watts, and the maximum can go up to 16 watts. >> >> I would

Re: Reading an old HDD

For 3,5" HDD you need an usb-case with extra power. The standard usb power is not enough for this needed power. Most usp ports deliver about 50-70mA at 5V, so you must use a case with an external power supply. This is also needed for eSATA ports. Hans > > The smallest 3.5" HDD (3 TB) for wh

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 12:51 +0700]: > On 05/10/2024 11:15, Will Mengarini wrote: >> * Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 10:48 +0700]: >> >>> Try to connect the enclosure without the disk. It may appear >>> in lsusb output and may generate some journalctl logs. >> >> That's a clever idea, but it wil

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 05/10/2024 11:15, Will Mengarini wrote: * Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 10:48 +0700]: Try to connect the enclosure without the disk. It may appear in lsusb output and may generate some journalctl logs. That's a clever idea, but it will be a while before I can carefully unscrew the disk from t

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Will Mengarini [24-10/04=Fri 20:10 -0700]: > * Ash Joubert [24-10/05=Sat 15:56 +1300]: >> On 2024-10-04 20:19, Will Mengarini wrote: - Do you see anything in "blkid" when the USB enclosure is attached? >>> Nothing changes. - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the

Re: Reading an old HDD

* basti [24-10/04=Fri 13:54 +0200]: > Am 04.10.24 um 04:57 schrieb Will Mengarini: >> I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an >> HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that >> connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the >>

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Hans [24-10/04=Fri 10:24 +0200]: > Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 04:57:19 CEST schrieb Will Mengarini: >> I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an >> HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that >> connects to the new machine by USB and powered every

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Max Nikulin [24-10/05=Sat 10:48 +0700]: > On 04/10/2024 14:19, Will Mengarini wrote: >> * Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: >>> - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? >> >> No output when I unplug it and replug it. > > Do you start "journalctl -f" as r

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 04/10/2024 14:19, Will Mengarini wrote: * Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? No output when I unplug it and replug it. Do you start "journalctl -f" as root (e.g. sudo)? It is rather strange that nothing is

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Ash Joubert [24-10/05=Sat 16:02 +1300]: > On 2024-10-04 20:43, Will Mengarini wrote: >> Now I realize that there may be an error LED blinking on the HDD. That may not have been an error LED; it's an LED on the PCB of the enclosure, and it may be intended to blink red whenever the disk is being

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Ash Joubert [24-10/05=Sat 15:56 +1300]: > On 2024-10-04 20:19, Will Mengarini wrote: >>> - Do you see anything in "blkid" when the USB enclosure is attached? >> Nothing changes. >>> - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? >> No output when I unplug it and re

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 2024-10-04 20:43, Will Mengarini wrote: Now I realize that there may be an error LED blinking on the HDD. What is the model of the HDD? What is its documented peak power draw? Kind regards, -- Ash Joubert (they/them) Director / Game Developer Transient Software Limited

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 2024-10-04 20:19, Will Mengarini wrote: - Do you see anything in "blkid" when the USB enclosure is attached? Nothing changes. - Do you see anything in "journalctl -f" when you plug in the USB enclosure? No output when I unplug it and replug it. The HDD may not be able to draw enough power

Re: Reading an old HDD

Am 04.10.24 um 04:57 schrieb Will Mengarini: I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the stable Debian doesn't see the new disk that is

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 00:19:31 -0700 Will Mengarini wrote: > * Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: > > On 2024-10-04 16:26, Will Mengarini wrote: > >> The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an > >> ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But > >> the new Debian shows nothing new in `d

Re: Reading an old HDD

Am Freitag, 4. Oktober 2024, 04:57:19 CEST schrieb Will Mengarini: > I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an > HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that > connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the > stable Debian doesn't

Re: Reading an old HDD

* David Wright [24-10/03=Thu 22:44 -0500]: > On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 20:26:55 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: >> The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an >> ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. [...] > > Take a look at /dev/disk/... where the names of the next level > of directories are s

Re: Reading an old HDD

* Ash Joubert [24-10/04=Fri 16:38 +1300]: > On 2024-10-04 16:26, Will Mengarini wrote: >> The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an >> ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But >> the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is >> there some other command I should use to probe for >> wheth

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 10/3/24 22:57, Will Mengarini wrote: I have a freshly installed Debian stable and I'm trying to read an HDD from a previous machine. I put it into a disk enclosure that connects to the new machine by USB and powered everything up, but the stable Debian doesn't see the new disk that is connect

Re: Reading an old HDD

On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 20:26:55 (-0700), Will Mengarini wrote: > The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an > ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But > the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is > there some other command I should use to probe for > whether Debian knows there's a HDD c

Re: Reading an old HDD

On 2024-10-04 16:26, Will Mengarini wrote: The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is there some other command I should use to probe for whether Debian knows there's a HDD connected by USB? "df" wil

Re: Reading an old HDD

The old HDD is mostly ext3; there was also an ext2 boot partition, and a swap partition. But the new Debian shows nothing new in `df`. Is there some other command I should use to probe for whether Debian knows there's a HDD connected by USB? * victoria crenshaw [24-10/03=Thu 22:00 -0500]: > whi

Re: Reading an old HDD

which file system is the old hdd formated in ntfs? if so run in terminal sudo apt install ntfs-3g or use gparted to see the file system of the hdd sudo apt install gparted On Thu, 2024-10-03 at 19:57 -0700, Will Mengarini wrote: > e new disk that is connected by USB.  Is > there