Re: Re: Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread tor...@riseup.net
>Don't forget, I am also a user. If I felt the project no longer >represented >my interests, I would leave. I would not waste my time or the >project's >by continuing to complain about what might have been. That sure makes sense. But there might be people who a) are very emotional about Debian a

Re: Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I'm subscribed to the list. On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 09:53:49PM +0100, tor...@riseup.net wrote: > I could swear that the Social Contract states: > We will not hide problems > and > Our priority are our users. of course it does. But posting here about other OSes is not priori

Re: Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread tor...@riseup.net
Miles Fidelman wrote: > Please DO report back. Some of us really do want to know the state of > alternatives. After 6 years of using Debian, which was pretty much the only OS i ever used, Gentoo is a good systemd-free alternative for me. Slightly less comfortable, but a helpful community makes it

Re: Re: the developers have spoken

2014-11-19 Thread tor...@riseup.net
Jonathan Dowland wrote: >Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> No, not necessarily. For maony, it means that Debian Linux is dying >> and will soon be dead -- or rather, no longer relevant. I just hope >> that the alternative in FreeBSD works out. >I encourage you to find out sooner, rather than later, b