Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-04 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Jerry Stuckle: But just the fact there are people who consider systemd to be > problematic enough to consider forking Debian should not be ignored. Denis Roio already has dyne:bolic. * http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-side.html

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-03 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Laurent Bigonville: The systemd umbrella project is made of 10+ different executables > that have all a specific scope (systemd PID1 used to manage the life > cycles of the daemons, systemd-logind manage the user sessions, > systemd-journald a logging system,...) and that are all > communicatin

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-01 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: A quick search reveals the following. > > I've a software that use libuuid. Until now, the uuidd had the > ability to start on-demand the uuidd if the later, quotting "... > setuid to an unprivileged user (e.g. uuidd:uuidd)". > > After that commit, i'm forced to use sy

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-01 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Christian Seiler: Finally: Upstart also supports socket activation. It's not quite as > powerful as systemd's, but is has enough features for this use case. > I don't know the people developing util-linux, but I could imagine > them accepting a patch to also support Upstart-style socket > activ

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Oct 2014 at 04:29:59 -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > Well I also seem to have systemd-shim installed. > So I am confused... How all this adds up... In its maintainer's words: systemd-shim expresses no preference for init system, and is completely coinstallable with systemd-sysv - and shoul

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:40:04 PM UTC+5:30, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Oct 2014 at 00:44:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written > > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd > Regarding > >apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-s

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Oct 2014 at 00:44:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd Regarding apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-shim systemd-sysv- The command apt-get install sysvinit-core systemd-s

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 20:07:06, Rusi Mody wrote: > > Thanks Andrei for that. > Some suggestions hopefully not too contentious :-) Constructive feedback is always welcome :) > 1. "Some packages may depend on systemd" should probably be linked to >some mention of gnome. [My hunch is that gnome is

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-22 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:20:05 AM UTC+5:30, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 22 oct 14, 23:26:15, Christian Seiler wrote: > > [snip excelent explanations] > > As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written > https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd Thanks Andrei for that.

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-22 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
WOW! Thank you again! :-D On 22 October 2014 19:26, Christian Seiler wrote: > > OMFG! Just did an upgrade and guess what?! A "new" packaged appeared, > > called: "libsystemd0"... > > [...] > > I can not believe my eyes... BSD stuff depending on systemd! > > The bsdutils package is actually not

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 22 oct 14, 23:26:15, Christian Seiler wrote: [snip excelent explanations] As penitence for being mean to Steve I've just written https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser#systemd Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users an

Re: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-10-22 Thread Christian Seiler
> OMFG! Just did an upgrade and guess what?! A "new" packaged appeared, > called: "libsystemd0"... > [...] > I can not believe my eyes... BSD stuff depending on systemd! The bsdutils package is actually not directly from BSD, it's built as part of util-linux, and provides utilities not specified i