Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: >Besides the discussion about how to preserve the installed packages state, > I would also backup the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat which helps to > restore the configuration of the configurable installed packages. But I > don't know how to do it automatically. d

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Besides the discussion about how to preserve the installed packages state, I would also backup the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat which helps to restore the configuration of the configurable installed packages. But I don't know how to do it automatically but I think its described in the man pag

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,01.May.09, 13:49:12, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Even if you think you do care, you probably do. Either that, or you have a > different goal. That's more likely. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.a

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090501183939.ga10...@think.homelan>, Andrei Popescu wrote: >On Fri,01.May.09, 13:26:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> Because we are talking about restoring the saved state, and which package >> satisfies an "virtual | package-i-don't-like | package-i-like" >> Depend/Recommend does matter,

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,01.May.09, 13:26:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Because we are talking about restoring the saved state, and which package > satisfies an "virtual | package-i-don't-like | package-i-like" > Depend/Recommend does matter, even if that package is marked automatically > installed. I c

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090501074519.gu10...@think.homelan>, Andrei Popescu wrote: >On Thu,30.Apr.09, 20:59:40, J.M.Roth wrote: >> dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install"' > packagesNG_installed >> aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' > packagesNG_autoinstalled > >I'm curious, why not replace these two with > >aptitu

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,30.Apr.09, 20:59:40, J.M.Roth wrote: > I have done more experiments and have come up with these notes for now. > > #BACKUP > dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install"' > packagesNG_installed > aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' > packagesNG_autoinstalled I'm curious, why not replace these t

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-30 Thread J . M . Roth
I have done more experiments and have come up with these notes for now. #BACKUP dpkg --get-selections | awk '$2 == "install"' > packagesNG_installed aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' > packagesNG_autoinstalled debconf-get-selections | grep -Ev '^[[:space:]]*(#|$)' > packagesNG_debconf # RESTORE # ma

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-26 Thread Owen Townend
2009/4/24 Paul E Condon : > On 2009-04-23_21:27:07, Daniel Burrows wrote: [snip] >> >>   The "state" is a flag indicating the package's current state.  It's >> written as an integer because I designed this code when I was young and >> foolish. :-)  The relevant values are: The hint was here.. ^^ .

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-24 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090424055608.gb20...@big.lan.gnu>, Paul E Condon wrote: >In the aptitude-create-state-bundle description, they give a list of > exactly what they (the documenters of the aptitude program no less) > believe to be the sum total of what is needed to recreate a living apt > system. This list is:

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:56:08PM -0600, Paul E Condon was heard to say: > Are you aware of the documentation package for aptitude? Yes. :-) Daniel (SCNR) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@li

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-23_21:27:07, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:13:38AM +, "J.M.Roth" > was heard to say: > > > >Oh and I guess to make things really right one would have to use > > > >--get-selections '*' > > > >during the backup, or an additional > > > >dpkg --clear-selections >

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 09:13:38AM +, "J.M.Roth" was heard to say: > > >Oh and I guess to make things really right one would have to use > > >--get-selections '*' > > >during the backup, or an additional > > >dpkg --clear-selections > > >before the restore. Just a thought. > > > > --clear-se

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-23 Thread J . M . Roth
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. iguanasuicide.net> writes: > In post.gmane.org>, J.M.Roth wrote: > >Now... I've been playing a little bit with this. > > > >First, I get some > >warning: Unknown type error, skipping line > >using debconf-set-selections < ... > > Hrm, that's somewhat troubling. It won't

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-22 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , J.M.Roth wrote: >Now... I've been playing a little bit with this. > >First, I get some >warning: Unknown type error, skipping line >using debconf-set-selections < ... Hrm, that's somewhat troubling. It won't affect which packages are installed, but it will affect how they are configured. >

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-22 Thread J . M . Roth
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. iguanasuicide.net> writes: > >I'd rather do > >aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' > auto_installed_packages > >Your command does not work if the package state is e.g. 'i A' > >(note the space) > > Actually, it only works in that case. Of course, because of the search > terms

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , J.M.Roth wrote: >Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. iguanasuicide.net> writes: >> aptitude search '~i~M' | awk '{print $3}' > auto_installed_packages > >I'd rather do >aptitude -F '%p' search '~i~M' > auto_installed_packages >Your command does not work if the package state is e.g. 'i A' >(note the space)

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-04-21 Thread J . M . Roth
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. iguanasuicide.net> writes: > > On Thursday 26 March 2009 22:09:28 Paul E Condon wrote: > >Your suggestion does raise in interesting issue: given a set of > >installed packages in a --get-selections file, and given that the > >dependency information is available in the pack

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-28 Thread Owen Townend
2009/3/28 Paul E Condon : > I'm convinced that the suggestion is worthwhile, but I'm having > difficulty following it. See below. > > On 2009-03-27_16:33:11, Owen Townend wrote: >> 2009/3/27 Paul E Condon : >> > On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> >> >> >> Many of those packages will

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <20090327195314.gt29...@swansys>, green wrote: >Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: >> Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to >> get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the >> query string should be. I think the most useful one

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
Sorry for breaking the thread. I was having sendmail troubles yesterday due to an ISP switch. :( -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/

Re: Question about get-selections - a little story

2009-03-27 Thread green
Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 18:14 -0600: > Recently I agreed to acquire a backtrace using gdb on > gnome-terminal. I had reported it crashing under a certain > situation. I'm not skilled at debugging, but gnome-terminal is > important to me, so I agreed. The work did not go well. Things went

Re: Question about get-selections - a little story

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_17:43:22, green wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 16:35 -0600: > > On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: > > > I think I have minimally tested these commands, but it has been a while. > > > It > > > would be great if someone could try this out and add a wiki page for it. ..

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread green
Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 16:35 -0600: > On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: > > I think I have minimally tested these commands, but it has been a while. > > It > > would be great if someone could try this out and add a wiki page for it. > > Well, I'm going to try it out, I can't promi

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_13:53:14, green wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: > > Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to > > get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the > > query string should be. > > Restoring the package set is not

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,27.Mar.09, 09:26:59, Paul E Condon wrote: > I see you have a different search string than has been mentioned before. > Is yours really what you use, or something typed from memory? The ones > I have tried didn't seem to give correct results. It was from memory, and I was even right ;) Le

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread green
Paul E Condon wrote at 2009-03-27 09:26 -0600: > Now, the discussion has moved to how to query the packaging system to > get the most useful file of information. I'm still not sure what the > query string should be. Restoring the package set is not so simple as restoring the packages that are ma

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-27_11:19:29, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu,26.Mar.09, 19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > I wouldn't put my backup info in /etc/apt. Most of what is in /etc/ > > (just like the rest of the file system) is managed by packages which are > > managed by apt. You may find that what y

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm convinced that the suggestion is worthwhile, but I'm having difficulty following it. See below. On 2009-03-27_16:33:11, Owen Townend wrote: > 2009/3/27 Paul E Condon : > > On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >> > >> Many of those packages will have been installed automatically b

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,26.Mar.09, 19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > I wouldn't put my backup info in /etc/apt. Most of what is in /etc/ > (just like the rest of the file system) is managed by packages which are > managed by apt. You may find that what you put in /etc/apt gets changed > (I don't know, but I w

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 26 March 2009 22:09:28 Paul E Condon wrote: >On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: >> > But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were >> > actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a scrip

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Owen Townend
2009/3/27 Paul E Condon : > On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> >> Many of those packages will have been installed automatically by your >> package manager.  If you use aptitude, you only need to record the >> packages which you manually installed: >> >> aptitude search `~i!~M' >> >>

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-26_19:08:32, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were > > actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a script, to be run > > nightly, that puts a fresh copy of my s

Re: Question about get-selections

2009-03-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 04:26:12PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > But I think I would like to have a record of what packages were > actually installed. So I'm thinking of writing a script, to be run > nightly, that puts a fresh copy of my selections in /etc/apt, e.g. > > # dpkg --get-selections >