On Mon 07 Feb 2022 at 18:08:41 (-0500), Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> On 2/7/2022 4:36 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> > > On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
> > > > I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can
Chuck Zmudzinski writes:
On 2/7/2022 4:36 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
and run on an older Pentium III compute
On Mon, 7 Feb 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a
On Mon, 2022-02-07 at 16:37 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
[...]
> > William Lee Valentine wrote:
> > > I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
> > > and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a
> > > DVD.)
> > >
> > > The computer is
> > >
> > >
On 2/7/2022 4:36 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a
On Monday, February 7, 2022 11:22:11 AM EST Dan Ritter wrote:
> William Lee Valentine wrote:
> > I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
> > and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a
> > DVD.)
> >
> > The computer is
> >
> >Dell Dimension
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote:
> On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
> > I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
> > and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a DVD.)
> >
> > The computer is
> >
On 2/7/2022 10:50 AM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a DVD.)
The computer is
Dell Dimension XPS T500: Intel Pentium III processor (Katnai)
memory: 756 megab
On Mon, 7 Feb 2022 08:50:36 -0700
William Lee Valentine wrote:
> I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
> and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a
> DVD.)
And have something usable? With the default GNOME desktop? Probably
not. With a ligh
On Mon, Feb 07, 2022 at 08:50:36AM -0700, William Lee Valentine wrote:
> I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
> and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a DVD.)
>
> The computer is
>
> Dell Dimension XPS T500: Intel Pentium III processor
William Lee Valentine wrote:
> I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
> and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a DVD.)
>
> The computer is
>
> Dell Dimension XPS T500: Intel Pentium III processor (Katnai)
> memory: 756 megabytes, run
On 2022-02-07 10:50, William Lee Valentine wrote:
I am wondering whether a current Debian distribution can be installed
and run on an older Pentium III computer. (I have Debian 11.2 on a DVD.)
The computer is
Dell Dimension XPS T500: Intel Pentium III processor (Katnai)
memory: 756 mega
didier gaumet wrote:
> By default Stretch seems too ancient to support your chip and you would
> need is install both the kernel and the firmware from Backports to support
> it
In any case the OP is asking also if this is on the installer, which it is
obviously not.
So th answer to actually both
Le vendredi 11 décembre 2020 à 10:30:06 UTC+1, Pratiek N a écrit :
> Hello Team,
>
> Greetings for the day!
>
> I need your help regarding a query about Debian 9.9
>
> Please help me understand if Intel Wi-Fi Module AC9260 supports Debian 9.9 ?
>
> If it is supported then is the wifi driver par
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 02:42:38PM +0530, Pratiek N wrote:
> Hello Team,
>
> Greetings for the day!
>
> I need your help regarding a query about Debian 9.9
>
> Please help me understand if Intel Wi-Fi Module AC9260 supports Debian 9.9
> ?
>
> If it is supported then is the wifi driver part of
On Tue 08 Sep 2020 at 14:29:02 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-09-08 03:45, nenu crok wrote:
> > i have read somewhere using ctrl alt f2 option to start new session. is
> > word session correct ? by jumping using above option will log out from
> > existing session.
>
> That sounds l
On Tue 08 Sep 2020 at 14:29:02 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-09-08 03:45, nenu crok wrote:
> > i have read somewhere using ctrl alt f2 option to start new session. is
> > word session correct ? by jumping using above option will log out from
> > existing session.
>
> That sounds l
> i am privacy freak, hence not using android. however, after seeing size of
> libreoffice, is there any way an option to download only small portion. i
> have overheard aboout similar option in our os debian. this is must, only
> metered ethernet or wifi connections in my area. i am specifical
On 2020-09-08 15:04, Charles Curley wrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 13:48:03 -0700
David Christensen wrote:
I added an alias to my .profile so that --no-install-recommends is
always set:
2020-09-08 13:45:56 root@tinkywinky ~
# grep 'no-install-recommends' .profile*
.profile:alias apt-get='apt-get -
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 13:48:03 -0700
David Christensen wrote:
> I added an alias to my .profile so that --no-install-recommends is
> always set:
>
> 2020-09-08 13:45:56 root@tinkywinky ~
> # grep 'no-install-recommends' .profile*
> .profile:alias apt-get='apt-get --no-install-recommends'
You may
On 2020-09-08 03:45, nenu crok wrote:
hello debian users,
Hello. :-)
after bit of research, i have decided to install debian. it is rock solid.
i have few queries. please be simple. english is not my native language.
i assumed kernel is most important for system security. do we have tweak
On 2020-09-08 10:27, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:45:41 +
nenu crok wrote:
i am privacy freak, hence not using android. however, after seeing size of
libreoffice, is there any way an option to download only small portion. i have
overheard aboout similar option in our os
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:45:41 +
nenu crok wrote:
> i am privacy freak, hence not using android. however, after seeing size of
> libreoffice, is there any way an option to download only small portion. i
> have overheard aboout similar option in our os debian. this is must, only
> metered ethe
On 9/8/20, nenu crok wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:45:41 +
> nenu crok wrote:
>
>> after seeing size of libreoffice, is there any way an option to
>> download only small portion.
>
>> Consider other office software instead: ABIword, gnumeric, etc.
I always recommend AbiWord: it's not just m
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:45:41 +
nenu crok wrote:
> after seeing size of libreoffice, is there any way an option to
> download only small portion.
> Consider other office software instead: ABIword, gnumeric, etc.
i will certainly consider your suggestion.
_ nenu
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 10:45:41 +
nenu crok wrote:
> after seeing size of libreoffice, is there any way an option to
> download only small portion.
Consider other office software instead: ABIword, gnumeric, etc.
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nenu crok wrote:
> i have few queries. please be simple. english is not my native language.
That's true for lots of people here.
> i assumed kernel is most important for system security. do we have tweaked
> kernel packages. i dont mind a little of sluggishness or loss of performance.
The ker
Bret Busby wrote:
> And, with Debian 6 LTS, in /etc/apt/sources.list, I have, apart from
> the commented out lines,
>
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
> deb http://http.debian.net/debian squeez
On 23/05/2015, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> ... so, upon checking (using Synaptic) the tzdata package(s), and
>> finding they needed updating, apparently without depending on the
>> kernel update(s), I have now updated the tzdata packages. There are
>> tzdata and tzdata-java, both of w
Bret Busby wrote:
> ... so, upon checking (using Synaptic) the tzdata package(s), and
> finding they needed updating, apparently without depending on the
> kernel update(s), I have now updated the tzdata packages. There are
> tzdata and tzdata-java, both of which had updates available.
The tzdata
On 22/05/2015, Iain M Conochie wrote:
>
>
> On 21/05/15 22:15, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> Iain M Conochie wrote:
>>> Bret Busby wrote:
I have today seen the news report below, and wonder whether it needs
some kind of patch for Debian Linux, and, if so, whether it has
already been done, or
On 21/05/15 22:15, Bob Proulx wrote:
Iain M Conochie wrote:
Bret Busby wrote:
I have today seen the news report below, and wonder whether it needs
some kind of patch for Debian Linux, and, if so, whether it has
already been done, or is pending.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?b
Iain M Conochie wrote:
> Bret Busby wrote:
> >I have today seen the news report below, and wonder whether it needs
> >some kind of patch for Debian Linux, and, if so, whether it has
> >already been done, or is pending.
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679882#87
Good to see th
On 21/05/15 09:45, Bret Busby wrote:
Hello.
I have posted this message to the general Debian Users list, rather
than to only the LTS list, as, whilst my interest is limited to Debian
6 LTS, I believe that, if the issue involving any possible problem,
applies, then it would likely apply to all
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 16:55:07 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> My query is this; given the specified version of GRUB, and, given that
> the computer does not have an operable operating system, does the GRUB
> command line that is present, have the functionality of being able to
> mount (and then, later
On Du, 07 dec 14, 18:51:53, David Baron wrote:
> On Sunday 07 December 2014 13:30:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 07 dec 14, 12:52:06, David Baron wrote:
>
> > > 2. 1.18 has been the current intramf-tools version for quite a while and
> > > several serious or worse bugs are open.
> >
> > And
David Baron wrote:
> On Sunday 07 December 2014 13:30:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> On Du, 07 dec 14, 12:52:06, David Baron wrote:
>>> 2. 1.18 has been the current intramf-tools version for quite a while
>>> and several serious or worse bugs are open.
>>
>> And the question is?
> Is 1.18 safe to
On Sunday 07 December 2014 13:30:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 07 dec 14, 12:52:06, David Baron wrote:
> > 1. I noticed that several of these are listed as deprecated. What replaces
> > them or are they used at all? (Do not want to risk and unbootable, or
> > unloginable [SIC] system by simply
On Du, 07 dec 14, 12:52:06, David Baron wrote:
> 1. I noticed that several of these are listed as deprecated. What replaces
> them or are they used at all? (Do not want to risk and unbootable, or
> unloginable [SIC] system by simply removing them :-)
I'm guessing you mean libsystemd-daemon0, lib
B writes:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:53:50 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Have you actually tested (with hot-pluggable disks) what happens when
>> one of the partitions the system is swapping to suddenly becomes
>> unavailable or difficult to access and what happens when the data (on
>> one of the sw
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 15:07:48 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 15/09/2014, Chen Wei wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> >> .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and
> >> has been growing in the last hour.
> >>
> >> entries from before the cu
On 15/09/2014, Chen Wei wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
>> .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and has
>> been growing in the last hour.
>>
>> entries from before the current boot session) entries, so as to reduce
>> the file size to co
On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 03:29:04PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> .xsession-errors, which is currently sitting at about 740MB, and has
> been growing in the last hour.
>
> entries from before the current boot session) entries, so as to reduce
> the file size to content that is necessary to retain for
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:53:50 +0200
lee wrote:
> Have you actually tested (with hot-pluggable disks) what happens when
> one of the partitions the system is swapping to suddenly becomes
> unavailable or difficult to access and what happens when the data (on
> one of the swap-partitions) becomes co
B writes:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:56:48 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Multiplication is an algorithmic operation.
>
> Well, technically speaking, it is additions.
In any case, some algorithm is used :)
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B writes:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:09:58 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Does swapping to partitions use
>> checksumming for data integrity?
>
> Not that I know of (but I always make a looong destructive test
> before use, either on regular partitions and swaps).
Have you actually tested (with ho
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 23:09:58 +0200
lee wrote:
> RAID doesn't provide data integrity even with ECC RAM.
You still have much more chances to avoid writing a bad byte w/ ECC
than with regular RAM, though.
> It only provides redundancy (with some RAID levels). Use ECC RAM and a
> file system that
On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 22:56:48 +0200
lee wrote:
> Multiplication is an algorithmic operation.
Well, technically speaking, it is additions.
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B writes:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:32:08 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Mounting swap partitions with the same priority does not provide
>> redundancy.
>
> As RAID doesn't provide data integrity w/ regular RAM.
RAID doesn't provide data integrity even with ECC RAM.
It only provides redundancy (wi
The Wanderer writes:
> On 09/12/2014 at 12:25 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> On 12/09/2014, The Wanderer wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/10/2014 at 04:00 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>>
>> So, whether or not the swap partition is bigger than needed,
>> should not influence the inability of the system, to use the swa
Don Armstrong writes:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, lee wrote:
>> "Go down" can have various meanings. When you run a server and a
>> server process (like an MTA or an IMAP or web server) is killed
>> because the system runs out of memory, the server is effectively down.
>
> This is why you use things l
Curt writes:
> On 2014-09-12, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>>
>> Possibly because nobody has stepped up to write a new algorithm.
>>
>
> Seems more like simple multiplication than algorithmic calculation to me.
Multiplication is an algorithmic operation.
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B writes:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:22:01 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> Why would you say that?
>
> root denied access to sysctl keys (that doesn't even exist on my
> systems).
I got some denied, too, and some didn't exist.
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On 09/12/2014 at 12:25 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 12/09/2014, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 09/10/2014 at 04:00 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> I had understood the rule to be that swap space size should be
>>> at least double the size of the RAM.
>>
>
On 2014-09-12, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
> Possibly because nobody has stepped up to write a new algorithm.
>
Seems more like simple multiplication than algorithmic calculation to me.
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On 12/09/2014, The Wanderer wrote:
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> On 09/10/2014 at 04:00 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> On 10/09/2014, B wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800 Bret Busby
>>> wrote:
>>>
Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% o
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On 09/10/2014 at 04:00 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 10/09/2014, B wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800 Bret Busby
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB
>>> memory usage, and, swapping only 4%
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 05:07:32PM +, Curt wrote:
> Then why do the (net)installer(s) apply an obsolete principle when you
> accept a/the default partioning scheme(s) (well, at least the Squeeze
> netinstaller I used way back when did so).
Possibly because nobody has stepped up to write a new
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:51:16 +0200
B wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:22:01 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
> > Why would you say that?
>
> root denied access to sysctl keys (that doesn't even exist on my
> systems).
No, sysctl works the way it should:
$ ls -al /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/register \
/
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, lee wrote:
> "Go down" can have various meanings. When you run a server and a
> server process (like an MTA or an IMAP or web server) is killed
> because the system runs out of memory, the server is effectively down.
This is why you use things like systemd or similar which are
On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:22:01 +0200
lee wrote:
> Why would you say that?
root denied access to sysctl keys (that doesn't even exist on my
systems).
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:32:08 +0200
lee wrote:
> Mounting swap partitions with the same priority does not provide
> redundancy.
As RAID doesn't provide data integrity w/ regular RAM.
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B writes:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:21:07 +0200
> lee wrote:
>
>> To prevent an undesirable state of the system due to insufficient
>> memory, you can use (a large amount of) swap space on a slow medium
>> because that may give you a chance to do something before processes are
>> being killed
B writes:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:34:42 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> :~# sysctl -a|grep swap
>> vm.swappiness = 90
>> error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register"
>> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.route.flush'
>> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.rout
2014/09/11 0:31 "B" :
>
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:08:31 -0500
> John Hasler wrote:
>
> > That has been obsolete for at least a decade and may never have
> > applied to Linux. IIRC it had to do with specific characteristics
> > of BSD kernels.
>
> IIRC it was 1.5xRAM.
>
> Today, the only "oblig
Don Armstrong writes:
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, lee wrote:
>> Why would 40GB be too much?
>
> It's probably too much, unless you have processes which allocate lots of
> memory and then use it very infrequently or you have incredibly fast
> disks.
It works fine, only can slow the system down very mu
Bret Busby writes:
> So, I believe (unttil and unless, advised otherwise) that the
> deleteing the file (which did not free up the disc space, in itself),
> and then, renaming the xsystem-errors.old file, to xsystem-errors,
> appears to have disappeared the problem, which, if I had known
> earlie
Bret Busby writes:
> I note that, with that file that is being accessed by Nautilus,
> assuming that the number 1169162 , is the size of the file, I have
> tried, but, apparently, can not reduce that to zero, as that number
> does not change, with my attempts.
On a side note: You could try nemo
On 10/09/2014, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:04:46 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> On 10/09/2014, Steve Litt wrote:
>> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:51:35 +0200
>> > B wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
>> >> Bret Busby wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Alright, then; it is doin
On 09/10/2014 02:51 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 10 September 2014 19:42:57 Martin Read wrote:
On 10/09/14 18:07, Curt wrote:
Then why do the (net)installer(s) apply an obsolete principle when you
accept a/the default partioning scheme(s) (well, at least the Squeeze
netinstaller I used wa
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:34:42 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> :~# sysctl -a|grep swap
> vm.swappiness = 90
> error: "Invalid argument" reading key "fs.binfmt_misc.register"
> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv4.route.flush'
> error: permission denied on key 'net.ipv6.route.flush'
You're system's
On Wednesday 10 September 2014 19:42:57 Martin Read wrote:
> On 10/09/14 18:07, Curt wrote:
> > Then why do the (net)installer(s) apply an obsolete principle when you
> > accept a/the default partioning scheme(s) (well, at least the Squeeze
> > netinstaller I used way back when did so).
>
> My firs
On 09/10/2014 03:34 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
On 10/09/2014, B wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't
seriously tell me that the swap
On 10/09/14 18:07, Curt wrote:
Then why do the (net)installer(s) apply an obsolete principle when you
accept a/the default partioning scheme(s) (well, at least the Squeeze
netinstaller I used way back when did so).
My first guess would be "because it's not so bad an idea that anyone in
a posit
On 2014-09-10, John Hasler wrote:
>
> That has been obsolete for at least a decade and may never have applied
> to Linux. IIRC it had to do with specific characteristics of BSD
> kernels.
Then why do the (net)installer(s) apply an obsolete principle when you
accept a/the default partioning schem
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:08:31 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> That has been obsolete for at least a decade and may never have
> applied to Linux. IIRC it had to do with specific characteristics
> of BSD kernels.
IIRC it was 1.5xRAM.
Today, the only "obligation" is to have as swap as ram
if you plan
Steve Litt:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:00:18 +0800
>>
>> I had understood the rule to be that swap space size should be at
>> least double the size of the RAM.
>
> I think that made a lot more sense back in the days when 128MB of RAM
> was standard. If you have 16GB of RAM, and you're not using KDE
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:04:46 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 10/09/2014, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:51:35 +0200
> > B wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
> >> Bret Busby wrote:
> >>
> >> > Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB
> >> > memo
Brett writes:
> I had understood the rule to be that swap space size should be at
> least double the size of the RAM.
That has been obsolete for at least a decade and may never have applied
to Linux. IIRC it had to do with specific characteristics of BSD
kernels.
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:00:18 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> On 10/09/2014, B wrote:
> > On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
> > Bret Busby wrote:
> >
> >> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
> >> usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you
> >>
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014, Bret Busby wrote:
On 10/09/2014, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 01:54:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
The file has (kind of) gone, now (it is no longer accessible, but,
appears to still exist, in the
On 10/09/2014, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:21:14 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>
>> "
>> :~$ vmstat -S M
>> procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system--
>> cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo
>> in cs us sy id wa 15 0 1725
On 10/09/2014, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:51:35 +0200
> B wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>
>> > Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
>> > usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you
>> > c
On 2014-09-09, Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> Generally speaking, you want enough swap so that infrequently used
> memory can be offloaded to disk, but not so much swap that your computer
> stops being responsive when you begin to run out of free memory.
>
Is there a basic formula you could share with
On 10/09/2014, B wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
>> usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't
>> seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be.
On 10/09/2014, B wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
>> usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't
>> seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be.
On 10/09/2014, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu
wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 01:54:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
>>> The file has (kind of) gone, now (it is no longer accessible, but,
>>> appears to still exist, in the ether of the unknown; still ta
On 10/09/2014, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:36:42AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
>> Before seeing the above message, after someone previously saying that
>> deleting the file would not cause any (extra) problems, but would not
>> free up disc space, I deleted the file, then ran
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014 21:51:35 +0200
B wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
> > Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
> > usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you
> > can't seriously tell me that the swapping is
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:21:14 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> "
> :~$ vmstat -S M
> procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system--
> cpu r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo
> in cs us sy id wa 15 0 1725 88 85 134801
> 7112
On Tue, 9 Sep 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 01:54:08AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
The file has (kind of) gone, now (it is no longer accessible, but,
appears to still exist, in the ether of the unknown; still taking up
disc space, whilst, in theory, non-existent),
A file
On 09/09/2014 07:00 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
Hello.
It has occurred to me, with the problem with the xsession-errors file
progressively consuming HDD space until it runs out, causing crashing,
and the deflating of the file, using the '>' action, to ask whether a
similar way exists, of freeing RAM t
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:36:42AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> Before seeing the above message, after someone previously saying that
> deleting the file would not cause any (extra) problems, but would not
> free up disc space, I deleted the file, then ran "Empty Trash Can",
> but, no disc space was
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:21:07 +0200
lee wrote:
> To prevent an undesirable state of the system due to insufficient
> memory, you can use (a large amount of) swap space on a slow medium
> because that may give you a chance to do something before processes are
> being killed.
Re-read what Don has e
On Tue, 09 Sep 2014, lee wrote:
> Why would 40GB be too much?
It's probably too much, unless you have processes which allocate lots of
memory and then use it very infrequently or you have incredibly fast
disks.
> I have 8/64 so I can use swapping to slow down the downfall of the
> system.
The sy
B writes:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
>> usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't
>> seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be.
>
> Anyway,
Bret Busby writes:
> On 10/09/2014, Martin Read wrote:
>> On 09/09/14 19:42, B wrote:
>>> Normally, if you _really_ reach the system RAM limit, init begins
>>> killing the least used programs/daemons (well, this WAS true with
>>> a good init, such as the sysV one…)
>>
>> First, the OOM Kille
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 03:30:40 +0800
Bret Busby wrote:
> Alright, then; it is doing token swapping - with 99% of 16GB memory
> usage, and, swapping only 4% of (about) 40GB swap capacity, you can't
> seriously tell me that the swapping is working as it should be.
Anyway, a swap of 40GB is too much
On 10/09/2014, B wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:57:26 +0800
> Bret Busby wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but, whatever I tried, I could never get Debian 6 to swap. It
>> would just run out of RAM and freeze.
>
> But you ARE swapping (from your 2nd post):
> Swap: 428603401764372 41095968
>
> if y
On 2014-09-09 20:13 +0200, Bret Busby wrote:
> :~$ free
> total used free sharedbuffers cached
> Mem: 16333856 16242704 91152 0 867841384384
> -/+ buffers/cache: 147715361562320
> Swap: 428603401764372 41095968
Tha
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