On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 05:24:30PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
| > | > I meant a common metalanguage, so that it could be possible to
| > | > write one single application as interface to handle any config
| > | > file.
| >
| > | You should take a look at gconf and its derivatives. The idea is
|
* Cesar Mendoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011024 11:17]:
> As an example, I put together a sid box for my wife with KDE and I explained
> to
> her what were the equivalents in Linux to the applications the she used
I do the same thing for my fiancee :) Shes got a nifty dual-head setup
where she uses
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:57:48 -0500, dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0500, Greg Lopp wrote:
> | On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 03:21:19PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> ...
> | > I meant a common metalanguage, so that it could be possible to write
> | > one single ap
> | > I meant a common metalanguage, so that it could be possible to
> | > write one single application as interface to handle any config
> | > file.
>
> | You should take a look at gconf and its derivatives. The idea is
> | a common configuration/registry-like interface for applications
> | and a
On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 02:48:12PM -0500, Greg Lopp wrote:
| On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 03:21:19PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
...
| > I meant a common metalanguage, so that it could be possible to write
| > one single application as interface to handle any config file.
...
| You should take a look
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 03:21:19PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> Sorry I forgot to send this to the list too...
>
> > > Does somebody know anything about any common format for
> > > configuration files? Does any sense to propose this, somebody knows
> > > if there are references of this in Linux
* Anders Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:
> I have installed Debian (with GNOME) for two of my friends, and they
> haven't even used MS Windows before. They can't administrate them.
> But on the other hand, they can't make a mess out of the machines
> either. I'll just visit them at least
Alex de Landgraaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Note: this may be a bit long, but i hope you will read it and give
> feedback about your opinon on the subject(s) discussed. And sorry for
> crossposting, just wanting everones 2cents. forgive me :)
>
>
> Fellow Debian-users/developers!
[...]
> T
Sorry I forgot to send this to the list too...
> > Does somebody know anything about any common format for
> > configuration files? Does any sense to propose this, somebody knows
> > if there are references of this in Linux Standard Base ?
> > Do makes any sense even the sole idea of such format ?
Adam Heath wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
Better yet, lets convince package maintainers not to unnecessarily
update all their dependencies to the latest libs in unstable so that
packages can be easily backported with 'apt-get -b source ...' My guess
is that 60-90% of the p
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 06:38:45PM -0500, Lex Spoon wrote:
>
> I think for the kind of money you are talking about, you can hire
> administrators who know Unix. Honestly: wouldn't you want professional
> (or at least competent) adminstrators for Windows, too? Ease of Windows
> administration is
> Ofcourse my thoughts went directly out to Debian, as a personal
> favorite. It would take some time to create an enviroment where all
> these (simple) users would be content in, it would take even more time,
> testing and support for them to be glad with it, but that wouldnt be
> much of a probl
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
> Better yet, lets convince package maintainers not to unnecessarily
> update all their dependencies to the latest libs in unstable so that
> packages can be easily backported with 'apt-get -b source ...' My guess
> is that 60-90% of the packages in uns
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 01:21:08AM +0200, Alex de Landgraaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
> Also, Debian focuses on its rock-solid stability and sturdiness. This is
> wonderful, but Debian isn't moving very fast, IMHO.
The reason this is a problem, IMO, is primarily the recent explosion
al Message-
From: Alex de Landgraaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 17:21
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Propossed Project: Odyssey
First, i would like to thank everyone for their opinions, some are very
interesting. I'
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:39:50 -0300, Daniel Toffetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does somebody know anything about any common format for configuration
> files? Does any sense to propose this, somebody knows if there are
> references of this in Linux Standard Base ?
> Do makes any sense even the
On Tuesday 23 October 2001 20:12, Alex de Landgraaf wrote:
> Note: this may be a bit long, but i hope you will read it and give
> feedback about your opinon on the subject(s) discussed. And sorry for
> crossposting, just wanting everones 2cents. forgive me :)
> Now, i will halt my rant/manifesto/s
First, i would like to thank everyone for their opinions, some are very
interesting. I'll try to cover them all in one post, forgive me if i
don't answer everyone personally :)
Okay, lets tackle the hardest first:
- Why put a lot of effort to start a project from scratch, when that
effort could b
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:43:50AM -0400, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
> Better yet, lets convince package maintainers not to unnecessarily
> update all their dependencies to the latest libs in unstable so that
> packages can be easily backported with 'apt-get -b source ...' My guess
> is that 60-90%
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Timothy H. Keitt wrote:
> Better yet, lets convince package maintainers not to unnecessarily
> update all their dependencies to the latest libs in unstable so that
(snip)
Absolutely - I've been far from convinced by a lot of the requirements. I
normally like to stick with "st
Better yet, lets convince package maintainers not to unnecessarily
update all their dependencies to the latest libs in unstable so that
packages can be easily backported with 'apt-get -b source ...' My guess
is that 60-90% of the packages in unstable do not require the latest lib
versions to bu
I agree with Scott. With the help of a good admin any body can use Linux
right _now_. Remember that for a user like you said the computer is a tool
so as long as the admin makes sure that the applications the users need
are there it's only a matter of time before the user feels at home with
the new
Today at 01:12:63 you wrote the following wise words:
> Now, my boss is going to get most of the heat, and he and his managers
> are looking for alternatives.
>
I wish the ppl at my school were that smart as well...
There are some Debian-based distro's with very nice installers and
things like t
Yesterday at 18:21:63 you wrote the following wise words:
> Also, I think there is a lot of need for this sort of work. I've been
> talking to some admins here about starting a project for backporting
> sets of packages from unstable to stable to do 3-6month update packs
> after stable comes out,
Scott Dier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Therefore, I propose a new project: Project Odyssey. To take the
> > long road from where we (the geeks) now are to create a true
Do you want to create something that 1) can be *used* by anyone, or
something that can also be 2) installed/admined by 'any
> Therefore, I propose a new project: Project Odyssey.
> The goal of this propossed project:
>
> To create a viable alternative to our main competetor, based on Debian
> GNU/Linux.
I would be willing to help on this project. I have been thinking about
something like this for a while now. Feel fr
On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 01:12:02AM +0200, Alex de Landgraaf wrote:
> To create a viable alternative to our main competetor, based on Debian
> GNU/Linux.
Do not forget www.boxedpenguin.com
IMHO you should not use the Debian Project as a start for your trip, go out
and do it in public.
Greetings
> Therefore, I propose a new project: Project Odyssey.
> To take the long road from where we (the geeks) now are to create a true
I would attempt to not fork whatever work you do, but provide packages
that work within debian for these things that track unstable and could
be released with a future
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