On 10/26/2020 6:15 PM, Long Wind wrote:
On Saturday, October 24, 2020, 6:35:17 AM EDT, Leslie Rhorer
wrote:
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to
do nothing.”― Edmund Burke
In my opinion, the *LAST* thing one should do is keep quiet.
rude user wo
On 10/24/2020 3:11 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
Leslie,
You clearly have a great deal to say about your personal morals and ethics
Not really, no. Certainly not by comparison to the volume of my daily
work. "A great deal to say" would encompass volumes. I tyed a fe lines.
and you do no
On Saturday, October 24, 2020, 6:35:17 AM EDT, Leslie Rhorer
wrote:
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to
do nothing.”― Edmund Burke
In my opinion, the *LAST* thing one should do is keep quiet.
rude user won't be victorious, list moderator can easily
On 10/26/2020 7:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
I'm quite certain at least part of this huge discussion is caused by
misunderstandings.
That is fairly clear.
This is my attempt to clarify at least some of it.
Apparently I failed.
Well, in my case I don't think I failed to underst
On 10/26/2020 8:50 AM, Joe wrote:
It's all a bit subjective. As I understand things, a stranger deserves
It is entirely subjective. Whatever is or is not polite is not only a
matter of perspective, it is also a matter of the situation and the
relationships of the people involved. When I s
> wrestling with a pig gains you nothing but a
layer of mud, and amuses the pig
.
old song :
"PIG GOT UP AND SLOWLY WALKED AWAY, THE
(Music: F W Bowers / Lyrics: Benjamin Hapgood Burt)
Frank Crumit - 1934
Johnny Bond - 1966
Jim Croce - 1975
Also recorded by: Sam Hinton; Rudy Valle
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 14:59:16 +0200
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 24 oct 20, 03:46:20, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
> >
> > On 10/17/2020 1:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > >
> > > This could be understood that in your opinion it is ok to be rude
> > > to a person unless that person has somehow earne
On Sb, 24 oct 20, 03:46:20, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
>
> On 10/17/2020 1:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > This could be understood that in your opinion it is ok to be rude to a
> > person unless that person has somehow earned your respect.
> >
> > Is this what you meant?
>
> It is neither
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:59:05 +0100
Jan Foniok wrote:
> > On 18 Oct 2020, at 04:06, Weaver wrote:
> Just for the record, I'm actually sick of you and Leslie Rhorer.
Hear, hear.
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> On 18 Oct 2020, at 04:06, Weaver wrote:
>
> On 18-10-2020 11:42, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>> Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver a
>> écrit :
>
> And now we go another step further: with double postings into my inbox.
> Why don't you massage your petit ego requirements on some
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 07:31:11PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 à 12:07:09-0500, Leslie Rhorer a écrit :
> >
> >
> > On 10/24/2020 11:46 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
> > > Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 � 10:39:56-0500, Leslie Rhorer a �crit�:
> > > > [snip
On 10/24/2020 12:01 PM, Doug McGarrett wrote:
These messages are very unrespectful.
There is no such word as "unrespectful".
In what way are any of my messages disrespectful? (Answer: they are
not.) I have not called anyone a name. I have not made any derogatory
comments about an
On 10/24/2020 7:31 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 à 12:07:09-0500, Leslie Rhorer a écrit :
On 10/24/2020 11:46 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 � 10:39:56-0500, Leslie Rhorer a �crit�:
[snip]
Honestly, I don't care about your opin
Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 à 12:07:09-0500, Leslie Rhorer a écrit :
>
>
> On 10/24/2020 11:46 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
> > Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 � 10:39:56-0500, Leslie Rhorer a �crit�:
> > > [snip]
> >
> > Honestly, I don't care about your opinion. If you don't want to follow
These messages are very unrespectful. I don't need a screen full of this
BS! Stop it!
On 10/24/20 12:23 PM, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
On 10/24/2020 3:11 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 02:52:41AM -0500, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
[...]
A couple of decades ago I had to have
On 10/24/2020 11:46 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 � 10:39:56-0500, Leslie Rhorer a �crit�:
[snip]
Honestly, I don't care about your opinion. If you don't want to follow
So let me get this straight. I want very much to hear your opinion.
Indeed, I wou
On 10/24/2020 11:46 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
Leslie Rhorer wrote: a bunch of words that indicate that they
aren't interested in politeness as a tool for lubricating social
interactions, even when a minimal attempt at such is the
recognized currency of the community.
Why would I want to have an
Le samedi 24 octobre 2020 à 10:39:56-0500, Leslie Rhorer a écrit :
> [snip]
Honestly, I don't care about your opinion. If you don't want to follow
the local rules, go waste people's time elsewhere.
Regards,
--
Pierre-Elliott Bécue
GPG: 9AE0 4D98 6400 E3B6 7528 F493 0D44 2664 1949 74E2
It's far
Leslie Rhorer wrote: a bunch of words that indicate that they
aren't interested in politeness as a tool for lubricating social
interactions, even when a minimal attempt at such is the
recognized currency of the community.
One of the great things about the Internet is that, in any
competent interac
On 10/24/2020 3:11 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 02:52:41AM -0500, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
[...]
A couple of decades ago I had to have spinal surgery [...]
What he thought of me as a person was completely irrelevant.
Nice example. If you now try to abstract from
On 10/24/2020 8:59 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
it's foolish to argue with foolish peopleif i receive unpleasant message, i
just ignore it (keep quiet)
In general, this is a good strategy.
In general, I disagree.
Leslie, I stopped discussing with you for a long while. I'm not
inte
On 10/18/2020 7:39 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
In your perception.
Looking at the number of people who replied to tell you your attitude is
not welcome, I think it is a bit more than just my perception.
It would be rather remarkable if it were only yours. A singular
perception limite
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 05:45:07AM -0500, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
>
>
> On 10/18/2020 7:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:52:20AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> >> it's foolish to argue with foolish peopleif i receive unpleasant message,
> >> i just ignore it (keep quiet)
> >
On 10/18/2020 7:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:52:20AM +, Long Wind wrote:
it's foolish to argue with foolish peopleif i receive unpleasant message, i
just ignore it (keep quiet)
In general, this is a good strategy.
In general, I disagree.
Still
On 10/18/2020 6:52 AM, Long Wind wrote:
it's foolish to argue with foolish people
if i receive unpleasant message, i just ignore it (keep quiet)
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to
do nothing.”― Edmund Burke
In my opinion, the *LAST* thing one sho
On 10/18/2020 6:39 AM, Christoph K. wrote:
We're on a Debian mailing list here. Being respectful is part of the
Debian Code of Conduct
Being polite is not, nor is offering respect. I submit you may need to
lean the difference between being polite, being respectful, and holding
respect.
On 10/18/2020 5:23 AM, Michael uplawski wrote:
Weaver:
And I stand mine: respect is a quality that needs to be earned.
All living thing, and maybe more merit respect as a matter of fact.
That is total horse crap. As I pointed out before, anything given
without discrimination to everyone
On 10/17/2020 3:09 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 04:46:42PM -0500, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
[...]
This is nonsense. Whenever I forced to do something, or worse
yet, prevented from doing something by a consensu
On 10/17/2020 1:59 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 16 oct 20, 16:46:42, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
Feel free to ignore """lazy""" people from now on, but don't be
irrespectful to them.
You have no right to, and they don't deserve it.
On 10/17/2020 12:39 AM, Weaver wrote:
On 17-10-2020 15:05, Michael uplawski wrote:
Leslie Rhorer:
Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think everyone
deserves respect.
This is where you are excluding yourself from the h
On 10/17/2020 12:05 AM, Michael uplawski wrote:
Leslie Rhorer:
Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think everyone
deserves respect.
This is where you are excluding yourself from the human community.
'Not at all a
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 02:52:41AM -0500, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
[...]
> A couple of decades ago I had to have spinal surgery [...]
> What he thought of me as a person was completely irrelevant.
Nice example. If you now try to abstract from it, that means
exactly that: whatever criteria each
On 10/15/2020 9:20 AM, Felmon Davis wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, gru...@mailfence.com wrote:
Reading this thread reinforces just how old I am
The whole world seems to be wearing their feelings on the sleeve
I doubt it's age-related; many feel under threat for various reasons
though maybe we d
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 11:50:36AM +, Long Wind wrote:
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020, 8:12:54 AM EDT, wrote:
> In general, this is a good strategy. Still, there are people
> around who feel hurt by things and are too shy to speak up;
> it's thinking of those that I do sometimes.
>
>
On Du, 18 oct 20, 14:12:32, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:52:20AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> > it's foolish to argue with foolish peopleif i receive unpleasant message,
> > i just ignore it (keep quiet)
>
> In general, this is a good strategy. Still, there are people
> arou
Le samedi 17 octobre 2020 à 19:03:17-0700, Weaver a écrit :
> On 18-10-2020 11:42, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver a
> > écrit :
> >
> >> On 18-10-2020 00:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
> >> O
Le samedi 17 octobre 2020 à 19:06:35-0700, Weaver a écrit :
> On 18-10-2020 11:42, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver a
> > écrit :
>
> And now we go another step further: with double postings into my inbox.
That occurs when one do sent a mail to somebo
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:52:20AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> it's foolish to argue with foolish peopleif i receive unpleasant message, i
> just ignore it (keep quiet)
In general, this is a good strategy. Still, there are people
around who feel hurt by things and are too shy to speak up;
it's thi
Hello Leslie,
hello Harry.
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 16:46:42 -0500
Leslie Rhorer wrote :
> Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
> should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think
> everyone deserves respect.
On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 22:39:01 -0700
Weaver wrote :
> Some, in
Weaver:
> And I stand mine: respect is a quality that needs to be earned.
All living thing, and maybe more merit respect as a matter of fact.
Afterwards, you develop.
But societies change each one at any point in time adapts its rules to
the current understanding of abstract, arbitrary and deli
On 18-10-2020 11:42, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver a
> écrit :
And now we go another step further: with double postings into my inbox.
Why don't you massage your petit ego requirements on somebody else's
time.?
I'm quite sure everybody here is as sick
On 18-10-2020 11:42, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver a
> écrit :
>
>> On 18-10-2020 00:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
>> On 17-10-2020 15:05, Michael uplawski wrote:
>> Leslie Rhorer:
>> Until som
Le 17 octobre 2020 23:03:22 GMT+02:00, Weaver a écrit :
>On 18-10-2020 00:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
>>> On 17-10-2020 15:05, Michael uplawski wrote:
>>> > Leslie Rhorer:
>>> >> Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
On 18-10-2020 00:53, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:39:01PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
>> On 17-10-2020 15:05, Michael uplawski wrote:
>> > Leslie Rhorer:
>> >> Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
>> >> should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to thin
On 17-10-2020 16:59, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 16 oct 20, 16:46:42, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
>>
>> On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>>
>> > Feel free to ignore """lazy""" people from now on, but don't be
>> > irrespectful to them.
>> >
>> > You have no right to, and they don't de
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 04:46:42PM -0500, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
>
>
> On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
[...]
> This is nonsense. Whenever I forced to do something, or worse
> yet, prevented from doing something by a consensus of incompetent
> individuals, I have every
On Vi, 16 oct 20, 16:46:42, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
>
> On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
> > Feel free to ignore """lazy""" people from now on, but don't be
> > irrespectful to them.
> >
> > You have no right to, and they don't deserve it.
>
> There is no such word - or c
On 17-10-2020 15:05, Michael uplawski wrote:
> Leslie Rhorer:
>> Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
>> should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think everyone
>> deserves respect.
>
> This is where you are excluding yourself from the human community. Face
> it. L
Leslie Rhorer:
> Until someone does earn respect, there is no reason anyone
> should afford it them. It is utterly ridiculous to think everyone
> deserves respect.
This is where you are excluding yourself from the human community. Face
it. Live with it. *We* will be fine, anyway.
Cheerio
(I
On 10/16/2020 4:57 AM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
The point - or my point anyway - is rather than seeking to tack on a
whole
bunch of poorly considered features to a poorly considered fundamental
utility, well considered, powerful, highly configurable solutions such as
"find" shoul
Le jeudi 15 octobre 2020 à 19:10:00-0500, Leslie Rhorer a écrit :
> On 10/15/2020 5:05 PM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
> > Le mercredi 14 octobre 2020 � 02:12:45-0700, Weaver a �crit�:
> > > On 14-10-2020 18:30, Christoph K. wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700
> > > > Weaver w
On 10/15/2020 5:05 PM, Pierre-Elliott B�cue wrote:
Le mercredi 14 octobre 2020 � 02:12:45-0700, Weaver a �crit�:
On 14-10-2020 18:30, Christoph K. wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700
Weaver wrote :
"as I learnt to read years ago,"
It's appropriate sarcasm.
Disagreed.
It's sim
Le mercredi 14 octobre 2020 à 02:12:45-0700, Weaver a écrit :
> On 14-10-2020 18:30, Christoph K. wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700
> > Weaver wrote :
> >
> >> > "as I learnt to read years ago,"
> >> It's appropriate sarcasm.
> >
> > Disagreed.
> > It's simply disrespectful.
> >
> >
> >
ditto
On 10/15/20 6:58 AM, gru...@mailfence.com wrote:
Reading this thread reinforces just how old I am
The whole world seems to be wearing their feelings on the sleeve
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Weaver,
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 02:12:45AM -0700, Weaver wrote:
Being polite
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, gru...@mailfence.com wrote:
Reading this thread reinforces just how old I am
The whole world seems to be wearing their feelings on the sleeve
I doubt it's age-related; many feel under threat for various reasons
though maybe we don't always pick apt targets or choose apt r
Reading this thread reinforces just how old I am
The whole world seems to be wearing their feelings on the sleeve
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
Weaver,
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 02:12:45AM -0700, Weaver wrote:
Being polite is a standard that has to apply to all.
And indeed it
Weaver,
On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 02:12:45AM -0700, Weaver wrote:
Being polite is a standard that has to apply to all.
And indeed it does. Even if the OP was not being polite, you are not
suddenly given a free pass to write a rude reply. I was really
disappointed to see your reply because, as
Hello Harry,
thanks for your answer.
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 02:12:45 -0700
Weaver wrote :
> Being polite is a standard that has to apply to all.
Agreed.
> I consider the original post not to be.
I do believe it could have been "more considerate",
but it didn't "cross my line", which your post d
Weaver wrote:
> To me I see an outstanding example of laziness from somebody who
> obviously needs no consideration in the accessibility department.
Hi Harry,
I really hope you are in a minority with this opinion, and hopefully,
re-reading the original post you might come to a different conclusio
On 14-10-2020 18:30, Christoph K. wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 23:06:55 -0700
> Weaver wrote :
>
>> > "as I learnt to read years ago,"
>> It's appropriate sarcasm.
>
> Disagreed.
> It's simply disrespectful.
>
>
>> For those who require spoon feeding:
>
> As is this comment, too.
>
>
> Sarca
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