On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:55:28AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
I'd have to modify that. Instead of NIH, my worry is that since XFS
was designed for a different kernel, it's been "shimmed" into Linu
Hello Stefan,
We've been having a discussion on debian-user on the differences between
XFS and JFS and where one would be better than the other for different
applications. In the course of the discussion, Justin Piszcz sent a
copy of an email he received from Dave Kleikamp at IBM who doesn't
reco
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 05:32:11PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> >What exactly do you mean that JFS has no maintainer.
>
> It has a maintainer, but he cannot work on it full-time:
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:11:06 -0500
> From: Dave Kleikamp <[EM
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:55:28AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
I'd have to modify tha
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:29:43PM -0400, Justin Piszcz wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> >On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:55:28AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> >>On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>>I'd have to modify that. Instead of NIH, my worry is that since
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On 08/06/07 15:29, Justin Piszcz wrote:
[snip]
>
> I would too, until I found out JFS has no maintainer.
No /official/ maintainer, or "whoever IBM assigns to the task of
fixing a certain bug or set of bugs"?
- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:55:28AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
I'd have to modify that. Instead of NIH, my worry is that since XFS
was designed for a different kernel, it's been "shimmed" into Li
On Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:55:28AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >I'd have to modify that. Instead of NIH, my worry is that since XFS
> >was designed for a different kernel, it's been "shimmed" into Linux
> >and so doesn't integrate as well as e
On Aug 4, 2007, at 5:46 PM, George N. White III wrote:
I'm quite impressed with the stability and performance of XFS and
having been using it for over a year on production servers that
run mail, file and web serving. (x86_64 etch)
Let us know how you feel once you have experienced a few har
On Aug 4, 2007, at 2:42 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
I'd have to modify that. Instead of NIH, my worry is that since XFS
was designed for a different kernel, it's been "shimmed" into Linux
and so doesn't integrate as well as ext2/3 and ReiserFS. Same
concern with jfs.
I suppose that's a valid conc
Hi Douglas.
Douglas Allan Tutty, 05.08.2007 01:34:
> On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 02:14:28PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> magic sysrq key... Alt-SysRq-S to sync the filesystems followed by
>> Alt-SysRq-U tu remount readonly. then reboot.
>>
>> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/457
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 02:14:28PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> magic sysrq key... Alt-SysRq-S to sync the filesystems followed by
> Alt-SysRq-U tu remount readonly. then reboot.
>
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/457
>
>
> doesn't *always* work, but I've gotten to work
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 08:51:08AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 09:43:46AM +0200, J?rg-Volker Peetz wrote:
>
> > Debian Administration :: Filesystems (ext3, reiser, xfs, jfs) comparison
> > on Debian Etch
> > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388
> >
>
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Sergio Belkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was
amazed because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs
should be a good alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should
On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 09:43:46AM +0200, J?rg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Debian Administration :: Filesystems (ext3, reiser, xfs, jfs) comparison
> on Debian Etch
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388
>
Great article. As Ron points out, a UPS answers many of the
power-failure questio
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On 08/03/07 20:09, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
[snip]
>
> Not this thread again. I went from ext3 to JFS because I have frequent
> power failures and Sarge's ext3 would get invisible mysterious errors
> that ended up with a corrupted file system, espe
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On 08/03/07 21:44, David Brodbeck wrote:
[snip]
>
> I think there's a bit of Not Invented Here syndrome with XFS that causes
> people to be wary of it, but in my experience it's a rock-solid
I'd have to modify that. Instead of NIH, my worry is that
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
[...]
> As for the features, there was an article in the Linux Gazatte that I'm
> looking up now...
>
> http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html
>
> that does some real-world benchmark comparisons. Its from May, 2004 and
> the kernel is a 2.4. However, it may be useful
Mumia W.. wrote:
> David Brodbeck wrote:
> > However, it doesn't journal data, only metadata, so you may lose a
> > bit of data if the system goes down uncleanly. The filesystem
> > will be protected from corruption, however. (Ext3fs can also be
> > configured this way, but its default is to jour
On 08/03/2007 10:37 PM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
--- El Vie 03 Ago 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] encontró un teclado y tipeó lo
siguiente:
mi: XFS and grub do not work nicely together, therefore you'll need /boot
mi: mounted with EXT3, everything else can be XFS, even / .
mi:
And What about lilo?
On 08/03/2007 09:44 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
[...]
I think there's a bit of Not Invented Here syndrome with XFS that causes
people to be wary of it, but in my experience it's a rock-solid
filesystem. However, it doesn't journal data, only metadata, so you may
lose a bit of data if the system
Sergio Belkin wrote:
> --- El Vie 03 Ago 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] encontró un teclado y tipeó lo
> siguiente:
>> mi: XFS and grub do not work nicely together, therefore you'll need /boot
>> mi: mounted with EXT3, everything else can be XFS, even / .
>> mi:
>
> And What about lilo?
>
lilo work
Sergio Belkin wrote:
> --- El Vie 03 Ago 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] encontró un teclado y tipeó lo
> siguiente:
> > mi: XFS and grub do not work nicely together, therefore you'll need /boot
> > mi: mounted with EXT3, everything else can be XFS, even / .
> > mi:
>
> And What about lilo?
I would n
Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
> because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good
> alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to
> critical missions servers.
I like and have u
--- El Vie 03 Ago 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] encontró un teclado y tipeó lo
siguiente:
> mi: XFS and grub do not work nicely together, therefore you'll need /boot
> mi: mounted with EXT3, everything else can be XFS, even / .
> mi:
And What about lilo?
--
Sergio Belkin
Teléfonos 15-5494-5143 //
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 07:44:03PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> I have a MythTV system where there are lots of large (2+ gigabyte)
> video recordings. With ext3, deletes would block all writes to the
> filesystem until they completed, causing skips if there was an
> ongoing recording. W
On Aug 3, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Miles Bader wrote:
What about speed? I've noticed that on some systems I use that
have XFS
filesystems, many file operations are slw -- in particular,
deleting files seems to take forever. Ext2/3 seem much, much
faster in
general...
That's almost prec
Quoting Sergio Belkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good
alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to
critical missions servers.
X
Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 08:37:31PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
>
>> I love XFS!!
>>
>> The only thing I cannot do with XFS is boot from that disk so I need to
>> make a `/boot' partition to get it to boot but the rest is works great!!
>> Smoothly :)
>
> W
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 08:37:31PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
> I love XFS!!
>
> The only thing I cannot do with XFS is boot from that disk so I need to
> make a `/boot' partition to get it to boot but the rest is works great!!
> Smoothly :)
Why can't you boot from it? Doesn't GRU
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 07:04:44PM -0500, Sam Leon wrote:
> Sergio Belkin wrote:
> >Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
> >because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a
> >good alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should b
Sergio Belkin wrote:
>> JL: The only thing I cannot do with XFS is boot from that disk so I need to
>> JL: make a `/boot' partition to get it to boot but the rest is works
>> great!! JL: Smoothly :)
>> JL:
>> JL: Regards,
>> JL: Jose Luis.
>
> Thanks for your opinions, so is not possible boot from
--- El Vie 03 Ago 2007, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras encontró un teclado y tipeó
lo siguiente:
> JL: Sergio Belkin wrote:
> JL: > Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was
> amazed JL: > because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs
> should be a good JL: > al
Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
> because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good
> alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to
> critical missions servers.
>
> Thanks in adv
Sam Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was
>> amazed because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs
>> should be a good alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should
>> be relegated to critical missions servers.
>
Sergio Belkin wrote:
Hi I was reading http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/index.html and was amazed
because XFS powerful features. But I'd like opinions if xfs should be a good
alternative to ext3 in typical cases, or if it should be relegated to
critical missions servers.
Thanks in advance!
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